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  • ddaugherty
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 622

    #511
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

    Originally posted by Steeler99
    What's up with the new "frame-rate" problem caused by the patch? Seems like any time I get a RB into a full sprint, he has this jerky, hesitation running movement .... anyone else seeing this?
    Yes...i am seeing this as well.....i dunno what is going on there..probably just something that they will have to fix in the next patch though

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    • iconoficons
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 60

      #512
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

      Gotta love how you can no longer throw to a HB on a streak....

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      • MoneyGames
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 167

        #513
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

        *sigh*
        Hello to all you OS bums, its been a while since i have come here to post but i am back

        madden 10= shtty boo boo

        this game is a slight inch better than 09 but i expect greatness from the only football game out.

        the flat coverage on this game is horrible, i can hit the flats ANYTIME!!!! they are ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS open. i hate how EA comes out with the patches to help tune the game but instead make it worse.

        I feel like this game is getting more and more like head coach. EA, how hard can it be to make a game where strategy(playcalling, subs, gameplan, etc) + user ability are equally important???? the user ability in this game has been greatly diminished and all these OS bums like it because they have no stick!!!

        I am absolutely raw at this game!! just as good if not better than i was on 09, and i making a lot $ playing this game, but i am slowly becoming fed up with it and ready to hang it up.

        thank god for NBA 2k10

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        • NYBorn81
          Pro
          • Aug 2007
          • 502

          #514
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

          Originally posted by MoneyGames
          *sigh*
          Hello to all you OS bums, its been a while since i have come here to post but i am back

          madden 10= shtty boo boo

          this game is a slight inch better than 09 but i expect greatness from the only football game out.

          the flat coverage on this game is horrible, i can hit the flats ANYTIME!!!! they are ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS open. i hate how EA comes out with the patches to help tune the game but instead make it worse.

          I feel like this game is getting more and more like head coach. EA, how hard can it be to make a game where strategy(playcalling, subs, gameplan, etc) + user ability are equally important???? the user ability in this game has been greatly diminished and all these OS bums like it because they have no stick!!!

          I am absolutely raw at this game!! just as good if not better than i was on 09, and i making a lot $ playing this game, but i am slowly becoming fed up with it and ready to hang it up.

          thank god for NBA 2k10

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          • spixxx8
            Rookie
            • Jan 2009
            • 19

            #515
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

            well i know we got this patch just now. So i am guessing Late Nov for the next one?

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            • LAKE4742
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 1325

              #516
              Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

              Well, what started off as something simple, a decent fix, has now turned into something more complex, unbalanced, and almost game-killing.

              This patch definitely slows the game down. Very Fast speed feels out of wack. The runners are slower, and the passing is slower. Feels like Fast speed. The runners now are forcefully slowed by using the same technique as if using Speed Threshold (which I'm not).
              The screen freezes the runner in place, allowing defenders to get better positioning. The way the tacklers are missing, now feels very scripted. I no longer feel like I even have control of my RB, especially coming out of the backfield. The RB freezes at least 2 times before even getting to the LOS, and then continues to freeze going downfield. The entire game feels less controlled by me, and even more controlled by the engine. So really, what's the point?

              As I'm typing this, I realize I didn't have much of a problem with the game before the patch, and because it feels dramatically different, to me, it's probaly in my best interest to get rid of it, and go back to the way it was before.

              Again, this is a common theme now. Devs take alot of grief, then release a patch, for those with the most complaints, but end up making the game alot worse. The complaints are valid. But, the way that devs try to remedy the problems, are not.

              So, even if I get rid of the first patch, I won't be able to DL the second patch without adding the first, correct? That would be a major bummer. Unless, the second patch corrects the first patch. And if I do get rid of the patch, I can't keep the same rosters?

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              • LAKE4742
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 1325

                #517
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                Yay!!! I think I can just copy my roster and profile onto my memory card!!!!

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                • bomza
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 196

                  #518
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by Steeler99
                  What's up with the new "frame-rate" problem caused by the patch? Seems like any time I get a RB into a full sprint, he has this jerky, hesitation running movement .... anyone else seeing this?
                  Thought I was going nuts as well and just left a comment at PastaPadre about this. ABSOLUTELY. Identical to what you say.

                  What is going on? Who is testing these things? How can they not see things like this and missing numbers on helmets? I remember either last year or the year before they patched it and the end zones got all screwed up.

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                  • Football4Natic
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 747

                    #519
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by LAKE4742
                    Well, what started off as something simple, a decent fix, has now turned into something more complex, unbalanced, and almost game-killing.

                    This patch definitely slows the game down. Very Fast speed feels out of wack. The runners are slower, and the passing is slower. Feels like Fast speed. The runners now are forcefully slowed by using the same technique as if using Speed Threshold (which I'm not).
                    The screen freezes the runner in place, allowing defenders to get better positioning. The way the tacklers are missing, now feels very scripted. I no longer feel like I even have control of my RB, especially coming out of the backfield. The RB freezes at least 2 times before even getting to the LOS, and then continues to freeze going downfield. The entire game feels less controlled by me, and even more controlled by the engine. So really, what's the point?

                    As I'm typing this, I realize I didn't have much of a problem with the game before the patch, and because it feels dramatically different, to me, it's probaly in my best interest to get rid of it, and go back to the way it was before.

                    Again, this is a common theme now. Devs take alot of grief, then release a patch, for those with the most complaints, but end up making the game alot worse. The complaints are valid. But, the way that devs try to remedy the problems, are not.

                    So, even if I get rid of the first patch, I won't be able to DL the second patch without adding the first, correct? That would be a major bummer. Unless, the second patch corrects the first patch. And if I do get rid of the patch, I can't keep the same rosters?

                    that is a placebo affect you got there

                    The game does not feel different from pre patch. I feel the slow speed is faster then before so I dont know how you think is slower but to each his own

                    My hb does not stop on screens and they work better then before

                    running game feels terrific now on both sides

                    the little changes that the patch made to the gameplay are terrific.....when you tweak the sliders to make the challenge terrific

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                    • LAKE4742
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1325

                      #520
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Football4Natic
                      that is a placebo affect you got there

                      The game does not feel different from pre patch. I feel the slow speed is faster then before so I dont know how you think is slower but to each his own

                      My hb does not stop on screens and they work better then before

                      running game feels terrific now on both sides

                      the little changes that the patch made to the gameplay are terrific.....when you tweak the sliders to make the challenge terrific
                      Sure. Do you not notice others complaining about the new laggy running as well? Maybe Slow speed is untouched. I was playing with Very Fast speed before the patch, and it IS infact slower. Saying the coverage is improved is sort of a stretch, because the way the achieves it. It's just more time-shifting, warping, and making the game feel more artificial, rather than authentic. And the new toe drag logic hardly works. The cutscene gets it wrong alot of the time, no? The KO returns are easier, no? This is not a good patch, period.

                      Edit: I think I'm gonna keep the patch, ONLY because of the improved coverage. Still alot of rubbish going on , though.
                      Last edited by LAKE4742; 09-29-2009, 10:21 AM.

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                      • SA1NT401
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3498

                        #521
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by MoneyGames
                        *sigh*
                        Hello to all you OS bums, its been a while since i have come here to post but i am back

                        madden 10= shtty boo boo

                        this game is a slight inch better than 09 but i expect greatness from the only football game out.

                        the flat coverage on this game is horrible, i can hit the flats ANYTIME!!!! they are ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS open. i hate how EA comes out with the patches to help tune the game but instead make it worse.

                        I feel like this game is getting more and more like head coach. EA, how hard can it be to make a game where strategy(playcalling, subs, gameplan, etc) + user ability are equally important???? the user ability in this game has been greatly diminished and all these OS bums like it because they have no stick!!!

                        I am absolutely raw at this game!! just as good if not better than i was on 09, and i making a lot $ playing this game, but i am slowly becoming fed up with it and ready to hang it up.

                        thank god for NBA 2k10

                        "move along...NOTHING to see here...."

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                        • Glorious Arc
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1875

                          #522
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by bomza
                          Thought I was going nuts as well and just left a comment at PastaPadre about this. ABSOLUTELY. Identical to what you say.

                          What is going on? Who is testing these things? How can they not see things like this and missing numbers on helmets? I remember either last year or the year before they patched it and the end zones got all screwed up.
                          I am pretty sure that it was done to stop "big" plays(to help bad pursuit). I was playing my friend last night and we saw it at least 7 different times. It is pathetic to watch it in the break away action cam because it basically humps the screen back and forth as the camera angle jumps in and out during the frame rate change. It makes players who are obviously faster then the defense move like Olinemen and allows the defense to catch up and stop them.

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                          • DrewBledsoe
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 625

                            #523
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Glorious Arc
                            I am pretty sure that it was done to stop "big" plays(to help bad pursuit). I was playing my friend last night and we saw it at least 7 different times. It is pathetic to watch it in the break away action cam because it basically humps the screen back and forth as the camera angle jumps in and out during the frame rate change. It makes players who are obviously faster then the defense move like Olinemen and allows the defense to catch up and stop them.
                            I agree totally, if it's a fix, then it's a horrible one, and tells us one of three things.

                            a) They couldn't adequately fix pursuit in the time frame, and it's temporary.

                            b) They don't really know how to fix pursuit, and that's what we are going to get.

                            c) It's unintentional, and was a result of other changes in patch #1 (given the history of extremely inefficient QA testing, highly plausible)

                            Let's hope it's c) and will go away with patch #2.
                            Madden :- Bears VS Vikings Sunday Night 08:- "The Bears defence have some of the best strippers in the NFL" :)

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                            • MattUMD224

                              #524
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                              i keep getting disconnected while downloading the patch

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                              • ComfortablyLomb
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 3548

                                #525
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                                I guess I'm in the minority if I like how the game plays after the patch. It's not perfect but I can live with the issues. *shrug*

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