NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

[Phobia]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Phobia, you're my boy and I completely agree with everything you stated. I, too, am leaving 2k after having played their NBA exclusively for 7 years in favor of Live this year. Live just feels fresh where 2k feels stale.

2k's demo the players felt slow and robotic. Don't even get me started on Isomotion. Man, what a disappointment those controls are compared to the EA freestyle moves with the R-stick; much more fluid and responsive.

Yea DJ, it is crazy so many people are feeling LIVE this year. I think 2k's system of movement started to really get to people last year with all the skating, sliding, players moving all over the place with out you trying, etc. The reason was Isomotion. 2K9 brought in a issue I never saw the 2k franchise having. Lack of control!!!!

I can't tell you how many times I am driving down in 2k9 and feel like I lose control of my player because isomotion does funky crap. "I am trying to do a step back......NOT turn my back to the basket and cross over the sideline!!! arrggggggg"

Now Live might not have all the different animations that 2k does. Just judging from the demo it does not. Maybe the retail will have more. But that still does not take away from the gameplay stand point. The fluid nature of the controls makes it soooo much more "fun" and much less frustrating.

I wanna see Live do a NHL 09 and make a huge come back

[Goffs]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Whenever I play LIVE...my wife sits next to me on the couch and says "those graphics look cartoony".

I'm like "Nah...you're the only one who thinks that".

I'm going to tell her I was wrong LOL

Seriously...yeah, it does like cartoony compared to 2K.

But when you see things like the player momentum in motion.....it makes up for any flaws IMO

its probably the vibrant colors of Live that makes it look cartoony and the players may move smoothly but there just something off about them on how they move...i cant put my finger on it..

funny thing is that i like the vibrant colors it gives the game more "pop" compared to the desaturated look of 2k's

[Pared]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Ok guys, let's quell the 2k/Live discussions here.

[loadleft]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

In one of the threads the developers mentioned that they are putting some of the ratings under the hood. I like this now that I understand why. I am the worlds worst for looking at a players ratings and deciding how to use him. For instance there's been a many poorly overall rated player w/high fg or 3pt ratings (Dana Barros) that I've turned into the next Reggie Miller, this is one of the reasons I won't initiate trades in my franchise season. I am good for taking the guy rated 55 overall but 75 in 3-pt and turning him into an all star. We now have to make some choices based on output (stats) that's very realistic to me and I hope that trend continues.

Also in response to some of the discussions about how the CPU/AI attacks you:
I've been massacred by Kobe, but he didn't create an "And 1" video in front of me but hit me with nice drives, a post up or two, mid-range step backs, 3-pt, and then when I finally managed to stop some of that he ran into the lane and did a euro-step whirly-bird some kinda fade-away. I liked it all that's exactly how I think he does IRL. The next game I jumped on him early and he went 2-6.

I am really digging this game as you might can tell!

[DJ]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Ok guys, let's quell the 2k/Live discussions here.

I love that word "quell."

OK, back to the Live demo. Man, I just had the craziest game against the Lakers. LA went to the line 16 times!!! Howard picked up 2 quick fouls trying to protect the basket as Kobe was being super-aggressive this game and driving past VC at will. It was nice to see the CPU be so aggressive and drive to the rim and they continued to attack the hoop after Superman sat down.

Gortat, I hadn't used him before, is a nice player. He can go up and get the ball and plays solid defense. He also has a good face-up jumper as I hit 2 over Bynum.

The one thing I've liked about this demo from the jump has been the realistic shooting percentages. I'm hoping that stays in as I'm not a big slider guy. Most games both teams are around 40-47% from the field. Sure, I've had games where the percentage is higher but for the most part, the stats fall right in the sweet spot.

I'm not a big graphics guy so that is not a concern at all. As long as it looks better than my PS2 games, I'm happy

[Methlab]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

I like the graphics. They look cartoony I guess, but honestly, when you put too much graphical detail into a video game, the gameplay and animations get clunky (see Madden).

Anybody have tips on how to learn this game quick? I call plays and see a red dot for the PG to stand on, and thats after that I just pass to an open man...doesnt seem that I am doing it right.

Also, on defense..do you switch to cover each ball handler? I guess any general advice would be cool since I am still struggling a biut with the controls. The demo is very very good though.

[tcain80]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

My biggest gripe about NBA Live 10 are the cartoony graphics.
I want to love this game because Marcus is a good guy and a bit of a friend (I met him at the NCAA Basketball 09 event and have chatted with him online since 2004).
But those cartoony graphics are driving me crazy.
I am not anti-NBA Live whatsoever. I want both games to be great ... but whenever I play the Live demo, I feel like I'm looking at a cartoon.

I know that sounds stupid ... but IMO they overdid the graphics.

Yeah, cartoony is a good way to describe them. I still like the 2k graphics better.

[pdawg17]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Does anyone notice the sound cut out once in awhile? I have 5.1 surround and occasionally it sounds like it cuts out for a split second...I've played the PS3 demo too and didn't have that problem...

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

I just turned down the speed in the demo 6 or 7 clicks and now, you can really feel the basketball coming out. I was a big fan of the demo before but, I felt it was a little to quick. Now, that I put the speed down, WOW is all I can say.

Anyway else think it was a little to fast?

[NDIrish98]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

I just turned down the speed in the demo 6 or 7 clicks and now, you can really feel the basketball coming out. I was a big fan of the demo before but, I felt it was a little to quick. Now, that I put the speed down, WOW is all I can say.

Anyway else think it was a little to fast?

one thing i noticed about turning down the speed was a few guys speed bursts wouldnt work while trying to run downcourt on a fastbreak. at least thats what i noticed.

[str8artist]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

I bleed purple and gold, so everytime I wil play I would run with tha lakers.. So just now i decided to give a go with The Magic... The difference in team playstyle was amazing.... I did not what to do, I am so a custom to running the tri-angle now... On the old school lives 97-05 (that I played) I could use any team and play my style and blow you out.. This year not so fast you play the teams playstyle. AMAZING I am sold, Mike Wang & Team EA in 1yr.

[LAKE4742]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

I just turned down the speed in the demo 6 or 7 clicks and now, you can really feel the basketball coming out. I was a big fan of the demo before but, I felt it was a little to quick. Now, that I put the speed down, WOW is all I can say.

Anyway else think it was a little to fast?

I feel you, Dirty. I did the same. And not much else seems needed to be adjusted.



The more and more I play the demo, the more impressed I am. There's so much fluidity in the animations, change of momentum, general player movement, and interaction! With the amount of pressure I apply to the sticks, the players momentum changes so nicely. The difference in passing schemes are good. I like that the flashy passes are with the stick. And I can use it anytime, giving me more control of my actions, and not by chance. The defense in this game feels very good. Nothing cheesy, or forced. Just good, solid D. And the player models, coupled with the great fluidity of their movement have me mesmerized! I really like the graphics now! The sweat detail, and the lighting! I am truly impressed. While I'm impressed with Madden's upgrade, I think Live's margin of upgrade is much more wide. Everything just flows in this game. Players do all of the little things, even while standing still. At no time do I really feel like I'm taken out of the experience. Because the players seem so alive. This is a real basketball game, no doubt. This game feels like a real total package. Great graphics, attention to detail, animations, control, physics, fluidity, A.I., off-the-ball movement, interaction, commentary....wow! This game is just beautiful, period.
THIS is "next-gen" ballin'.

This is probaly the best b-ball game I've ever played.