Theoretical Threat for Madden???

[tomymac23]

I want to pretense this with a statement saying that I have been playing madden since Sega Gen and I am a little frustrated with the direction of the series. I like the innovation of Madden and APF and was just sitting here talking to my wife about it and she being the lawyer that she is thought about this...

I'm sure the question has been raised before and there are some real guru's that know everything there is to know about Madden and its competitors here.

Why can Visual Concepts not make a football game similar to, yet updated from APF giving the end user the software application to create his/her own teams, uniforms, logos, and stadiums via a "website" like ncca football did this year? Giving the end user a place to go and create what ever football team they so chose. I'm just thinking if Visual Concepts were able to create something like this it would change the entire genre and create a synergy much needed in the sport overall. Is this wishful thinking? Or is there something to this?

I'm not saying have logo's on the game DVD or Blue Ray, stadium, or uniforms in the game, I'm saying a software that gives the end user the option to go out and find the logo, create the uniforms and the stadiums. Along with being able to edit any and every aspect of every player in the game. Not sure why this has yet to happen so anyone out there with any info on why this has yet to happen I would greatly appreciate it.

TMAC

[sois]

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Seems like 2k is scared of being sued by EA or the NFL.

[ktipton87]

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I was just thinking of something like this myself. It would be like open-source software. Where people could change it to how they wanted and make improvements, unlike EA does. I bet the versions of that game would be better than anything EA ever released, unless of course they stole those ideas and slapped and EA logo on them and tried to charge us all 100 bucks!

[tomymac23]

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I was just thinking of something like this myself. It would be like open-source software. Where people could change it to how they wanted and make improvements, unlike EA does. I bet the versions of that game would be better than anything EA ever released, unless of course they stole those ideas and slapped and EA logo on them and tried to charge us all 100 bucks!

Exactly. I was thinking of a game "High School Allstars" or whatever where you have the option of changing logo's to your "favorite high school teams." This would also give the end user unprecedented choices of creating both a college or pro team as well...

Not sure if its possible, but just thought I would ask.

TMAC

[darthlaidher]

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if its open source i bet the graphics wouldnt be nearly as good as madden though.

[speedkills]

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They could do "High School All Stars" with 32 high school teams from different cities around the country like Pittsburgh, Miami, Jacksonville, Denver, 2 teams from New York (who play in the same high school stadium in New Jersey) and teams from entire regions like New England. And the New England team could be an aging (by high school standards) dynasty with perhaps the most hated and successful high school coach in the league.

I like it.

[ktipton87]

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Why wouldn't the graphics be as good? I don't feel that EA uses the best possible graphics. But I am just asking y they wouldnt be as good.

And one thing i am thinkng about is, is it even possible to make a video game with the depth that we are wanting in the madden series? With just EVERYTHING that there should be in the game, is it even possible to make that kind of game with our current technology? and could we even play it on the xbox360 or ps3?

[tomymac23]

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They could do "High School All Stars" with 32 high school teams from different cities around the country like Pittsburgh, Miami, Jacksonville, Denver, 2 teams from New York (who play in the same high school stadium in New Jersey) and teams from entire regions like New England. And the New England team could be an aging (by high school standards) dynasty with perhaps the most hated and successful high school coach in the league.

I like it.

LOL that's funny. What you're missing are the other 110 to 150 high school teams from around the nation that have high energy fans and wide open game play.

TMAC

[SA1NT401]

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My sig tells yoou one thing....I am open to any other possible Football games. That "other" game played FANTASTIC compared to madden. I didnt care that it wasnt NFL licensed.

But, the NFL license is a powerful selling point and many only wanna play a licensed game but not necessarily a great game of football. I choose to play the game of football regardless of teams.

Madden does not offer both. Has the license, but the gameplay, while improved, is VERY sub-par. The more i play, the more i see and feel its shortcomings.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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if its open source i bet the graphics wouldnt be nearly as good as madden though.

That might be true or not, but as long as the A.I and gameplay is right, then graphics can be easily overlooked.

A game with great graphics and below avg gameplay , isnt as much fun as a game with great gameplay and below avg graphics.

Gameplay is far more important than graphics.

[darthlaidher]

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Why wouldn't the graphics be as good? I don't feel that EA uses the best possible graphics. But I am just asking y they wouldnt be as good.

And one thing i am thinkng about is, is it even possible to make a video game with the depth that we are wanting in the madden series? With just EVERYTHING that there should be in the game, is it even possible to make that kind of game with our current technology? and could we even play it on the xbox360 or ps3?

well im just speaking from my experience that open source games dont have as good as graphics as the commercial ones. because the games you have to buy are made with your money and that money goes into buying technology.
open source doesnt have that resource of money invovled

money makes the world go around. it takes money to buy the graphics engines and such.

[darthlaidher]

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That might be true or not, but as long as the A.I and gameplay is right, then graphics can be easily overlooked.

A game with great graphics and below avg gameplay , isnt as much fun as a game with great gameplay and below avg graphics.

Gameplay is far more important than graphics.

to me both are just as important i dont want to play a game that plays good but looks straight out of the nintendo days and i dont want to play a game with good graphics and not good game play. to me they both are just as important.

[tomymac23]

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One thing I'm trying to get out of this post is, is it possible for VC to do this and have each home user create their team from whatever logo and colors they choose. Build stadiums and create whatever they want without any lawsuits from EA or any other company for that matter? I am just thinking really about ncaa football and their online piece. If it played a great game of football there really would not be a reason to really buy madden you could create your NFL team on there and download it and play online and or in a league with that created team... Why can NCAA Football use any logo in there game that they so choose without worry of any lawsuits from other companys there must be some loop hole. Just a thought wanting to know if this really is possible.

[Mr_Riddick]

Are you still playing M10 currantly.

[tomymac23]

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Are you still playing M10 currantly.

Not really waiting on the second patch although it seems the defense is a little better with this new roster update. Not sure what thats all about. I dont want to take this off track though.