Cool cool just cant tell with words what some guys are getting at in these rooms. So thought it was going negative when thats totally not what I was going for. I agree with you. I know Ian and that "new team" is working really hard to make something happen and they've only had a year to do it. I agree. I just wish they would just stick to making a sound football game that expresses football and leave all these other things alone. I know these guys work their tales off no doubt. Just want a regular football game where no one says thats not real football. When people are comparing games from 3 and 5 years ago that's just not right. Theres no way those games should ever be mentioned with something made in 09, but it continues to happen. Guess I'm a little frustrated with the title and only want the best.