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  • jeremym480
    Speak it into existence
    • Oct 2008
    • 18198

    #136
    Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

    Originally posted by theharbinater
    first, i agree 41 is bogus. have no idea why we claim that.

    second, pre-bowl selected mnc were how they were done then. others claim titles that they lost bowls or didnt even play in a bowl. it's just hpw it was.

    finally, you left out undefeated bama teams who were selected mnc by some polls from 1945 and 1966.

    45 there were other undefeated, untied teams, so i dont have much beef with this one, but it should be known.

    66 we were the only udefeated, untied team in the nation, were pre-season #1, were back-to-back mnc, and were passed by nd and msu mid season just before their infamous tie game in which nd's coach deliberately ran out the clock instead of going for the win. they also refused to go bowling. bama beat #6 (or 8, cant remember) neb 34-7 in sugar. this is the only time that a pre-season #1 has gone undefeated, untied and NOT won the mnc.

    also, if you want to get really involved, 77 was another crazy year. 5 teams finished 11-1. bama entered the bowls at #3, and both #1 and 2 lost, while bama won 35-6 over #8 osu. nd, who entered #5, beat the #1 team, pretty badly as well, and jumped bama to finish #1, with bama #2. arky finished 3rd. all 3 split title votes, but nd received the majority. all 3 have a legit argument, though nd has the hardware.
    Finally, someone who know's what they're talking about!! Thanks harbinator.
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    • MSUMAN777
      Rookie
      • Jul 2009
      • 6

      #137
      Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

      Originally posted by jsquigg
      ClASSy post, buddy. I don't recall insulting your school because of its mediocre tradition. Tate Forcier is more highly touted than his brother, but I never made him out to be Vince Young. I'll remember your Rodriguez insults when we roll you at East Lansing. Rodriguez doesn't have to recruit better in state when he crushed D'Antonio nationally. Have fun hoping MSU has turned the corner..... Oh yeah, you still haven't won anything significant.
      i hate all michigan fans. they think they are so goooooood at everything. sure u can win 10 games and go to the rosebowl a couple times a decade but u lose everytime. the fact is tht msu has won just as many national championships as michigan since ww2. i think u only act up tight cause ur nervous that the "little brother" is doing better.

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      • clayshime
        Rookie
        • Dec 2004
        • 375

        #138
        Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

        Originally posted by MSUMAN777
        i hate all michigan fans. they think they are so goooooood at everything. sure u can win 10 games and go to the rosebowl a couple times a decade but u lose everytime. the fact is tht msu has won just as many national championships as michigan since ww2. i think u only act up tight cause ur nervous that the "little brother" is doing better.
        That reason you hate us is called jealousy. We've got bigger fish to fry than MSU, while we're your season.

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        • wryly
          Banned
          • Jul 2008
          • 134

          #139
          Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

          Kansas at 4 stars is a bit high considering they've never played in a Big 12 championship game.

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          • a1pointguard
            Rookie
            • Jul 2009
            • 1

            #140
            regardless, msu should be a 4 star. it seems like they're on the rise too.

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            • NDNathan
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 87

              #141
              Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

              Originally posted by dharrisfan2003
              Ohio State 6
              Michigan 6
              Penn State 5
              Iowa 4
              Michigan State 4
              Wisconsin 4
              Purdue 3
              Northwestern 3
              Illinois 3
              Minnesota 3
              Indiana 2


              And MSU is on it's way up, for sure.
              Michigan 6*
              Ohio State 6*
              Penn State 5*
              Wisconsin 4*
              Michigan State 3*
              Iowa 3*
              Minnesota 3*
              Illinois 3*
              Indiana 2*
              Purdue 2*
              Northwestern 1*

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              • shlemielo
                Rookie
                • Jul 2006
                • 26

                #142
                Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                Originally posted by NDNathan
                Michigan 6*
                Ohio State 6*
                Penn State 5*
                Wisconsin 4*
                Michigan State 3*
                Iowa 3*
                Minnesota 3*
                Illinois 3*
                Indiana 2*
                Purdue 2*
                Northwestern 1*


                You must be smoking something. 1* for NU? IMO, any team in a BCS conference should have at LEAST 2*. I'm OK with 3* for NU.
                Last edited by shlemielo; 07-16-2009, 05:18 AM.

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                • DJncsu13
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 77

                  #143
                  Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                  What has UNC done to deserve a 4 Star? How is UNC a 4 Star, and not say, Clemson? NC State has beaten UNC the last 2 years, and had similar records, both lost bowl games last year, but UNC climbs and NCSU falls? The UNC-HYPE machine at it's best.

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                  • acts238shaun
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2714

                    #144
                    Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                    Arkansas - 3 stars
                    Ole Miss - 3 stars
                    Iowa State - 3 stars
                    North Carolina - 4 stars (WTF!?!?!)
                    Syracuse - 3 stars
                    Northwestern - 1 star

                    Ok, those teams having the same prestige seems off. Arkansas and Ole Miss should both be four stars. As an Arkansas fan, and therefore anti-Ole P***, I will tell you with respect for their program they were taken to a three star level by Boomhauer Ogeron and brought back to a four star level by Houston Nutt. Arkansas is a member of the SEC, they have been to multiple SEC championship games, won a national championship and should have had a chance at another; I could state multiple reasons why Arkansas should be a four star program, especially when you compare them against the other two teams on this list. Arkansas has done something of late compared to the other above listed teams. Any team in a BCS conference should be an automatic 2 stars. Add that to the above reasons and I believe I have made my case.

                    What the crap has North Carolina done between Julius Peppers and Butch Davis? You mean to tell me Arkansas is less prestigious than North Carolina in football? Fail, big time. I am not one who is a reactionary person, but this is a flippin' joke. UNC is a three star program only because of last season.

                    I am not a Big Ten fan, but besides my previous listed reasoning about BCS conferences, Northwestern went to a Rose Bowl and won the Big Ten in the past few years. They are worthy of two stars.

                    I don't have an issue with Auburn as a 5 star program, but if there isn't at least a 9-4 season they should go back to four stars.
                    Last edited by acts238shaun; 10-06-2009, 07:59 AM. Reason: spelling

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                    • jhawkmike
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 176

                      #145
                      Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                      Notre Dame should have an A+ program tradition, but their current prestige should be about 3 stars.

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                      • StormJH1
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1250

                        #146
                        Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                        Originally posted by ChicagoSparty
                        Here's what I don't understand. If ND and UM are 6* (which I agree with), how come if they have a bad season or two in the game, their prestige rating drops?

                        Re: MSU, I could see 3 or 4*. Personally, would have us at a 4 based on national recognition. But historically (since the 5-s and 60s glory years), we have been as average as it gets.
                        I'm a Michigan grad myself, but I think it's a close call for Michigan State. I'm pretty sure it used to be a 5-star system, and in that case, I think you'd have to call them a 3*. On a 6-star system, they're probably a 4* after a good year and a 3* after a bad one. Even if the Big Ten isn't the best conference, it's still one of the power conferences, which guarantees at least some high profile competition. They've also had some memorable wins over Notre Dame in their non-conference schedule in recent history, and they've produced a fair amount of NFL talent.

                        Could go either way. (By the way, I'd also be fine with Michigan being only a 5* after the year we had!)

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                        • Joshua1207
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1191

                          #147
                          Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                          Originally posted by BORN4CORN
                          Washington St. should be 2* (sorry Potatoes) - did they go up one from 09? A 2 win season should severely diminish you're rep.


                          Otherwise these look pretty solid. Nice work.
                          Hey, WSU is great

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                          • acts238shaun
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2714

                            #148
                            Re: Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

                            Originally posted by acts238shaun
                            Arkansas - 3 stars
                            Ole Miss - 3 stars
                            Iowa State - 3 stars
                            North Carolina - 4 stars (WTF!?!?!)

                            I don't have an issue with Auburn as a 5 star program, but if there isn't at least a 9-4 season they should go back to four stars.
                            Revisiting my point...Arkansas, Ole Miss and Iowa are 4 star programs, North Carolina is not.

                            Also, it looks like Auburn's gonna get that 9-4 season.

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