New Ratings affect Trading in Association Mode-

[Ferrari997]

With the revamped player ratings, trading for star players is nearly impossible now.

I always play as the Bulls and my favorite player is Melo so I always try to trade for him. Usually I involve a third team such as Suns (give the Nuggets Amare) or Raptors (give Nuggets Bosh) and work out a trade that way. But NOTHING works lol. And I am giving each team a LOT too.

Everyone but Rose I've tried trading, along with my two first rounders I ALWAYS try to overpay anyways to avoid the guilt of ripping off the computer but nothing works lol. Anyone play as the Bulls manage to trade for Melo WITHOUT forcing the trade?

I'm not sure if this is a good thing, or a bad thing.

On the other side of things, if you don't want a crazy association, I would highly recommend turning off CPU trades. The new rating system means that LOTS of big time players will get traded because of their lowered ratings. Too much for my taste, but that's just me.

[anifiend]

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Is there any chance the Nuggets would trade Melo in real life? No!

I think the Association's trading logic is good. The only trades that seem a little silly is when the CPU proposes trades to me, but this may happen because they need to fill some different position in their roster.

[Ferrari997]

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I know that Nuggets trading Melo isn't the most realistic scenario, but that's just how I play my association. Trust me, I'm not one of those crazy guys that load up their roster with studs. Melo is just my favorite player, plain and simple.

I do appreciate the new trade logic as I can't just make any trade I want. But at the same time, it really sucks that I can't get my Melo lol. I've tried some really good deals IMO too. Something along the lines of:

Granger, Troy Murphy, Salmons to Nuggets
Melo and throw in players to the Bulls
Hinrich and Deng to the Pacers

I believe both teams get one of my first rounders too.

I mean come on, that's not that bad of an offer. The ones with Bosh, Amare, and Boozer were good ones too. I just want to build around Rose and Melo, and I hope to keep Tyrus and Noah, but I'd trade them away in a second if I have to.

[intruda119]

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Melo always decline his option/see his worth in free agency. I would try to prepare you salary for when his contract expires. He never ask for an extension. Thats your best bet, just clear some cap space.

[anifiend]

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The trade you describe seems almost fair, but still not enough.
You're trying to get one of the top players with great upside so it's not going to happen. Also, I don't see the Pacers accepting this either.
I think your best chance is to try and sign a big name as free agent in the offseason and see where you can go from there. Or get really lucky in the draft so you have more trade stuff. Or just force the trade you mention and be done with it.

[fisher]

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Melo always decline his option/see his worth in free agency. I would try to prepare you salary for when his contract expires. He never ask for an extension. Thats your best bet, just clear some cap space.

I don't have this game yet, but I hope that free agency isn't the only way All Star players move. All Star movement should be rare, but so should their movement via free agency. It virtually never happens in the real NBA. If All Star players move, they move via re-signing with their original club and being traded, not by outright signing to other teams in UFA.

Free agency isn't for NBA superstars. It's for role players and the occasional solid starter (like Ben Gordon or Charlie V signing with Detroit this year; both fine players, but nobody confuses them with being All Star calibur players).

[DC]

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With the revamped player ratings, trading for star players is nearly impossible now.

Ok so what is the problem again?

[SpacemanSpiff]

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I know that Nuggets trading Melo isn't the most realistic scenario, but that's just how I play my association. Trust me, I'm not one of those crazy guys that load up their roster with studs. Melo is just my favorite player, plain and simple.

I do appreciate the new trade logic as I can't just make any trade I want. But at the same time, it really sucks that I can't get my Melo lol. I've tried some really good deals IMO too. Something along the lines of:

Granger, Troy Murphy, Salmons to Nuggets
Melo and throw in players to the Bulls
Hinrich and Deng to the Pacers

I believe both teams get one of my first rounders too.

I mean come on, that's not that bad of an offer. The ones with Bosh, Amare, and Boozer were good ones too. I just want to build around Rose and Melo, and I hope to keep Tyrus and Noah, but I'd trade them away in a second if I have to.

Even if the Nuggets would trade Melo for Granger, why would the Pacers want to trade Granger and Murphy for Hinrich and Deng? I would have no problem with that trade not going through. If you really want Melo, just trade override it cause there aren't many realistic scenarios where the Bulls could get Melo with a non-Rose package.

[cjamestx]

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Even involving Rose, I don't see a trade for Carmelo happening. Why would the Nuggets part ways with one of the best players in the league, especially when it seems as if they have filled in a lot of pieces around him...... I would rather have an all-star over 3-4 more average players and/or some draft picks.

[TheFiasco87]

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its supposed to be tough to trade for star players.

[Vince]

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this is great to hear

[TeamBuilder]

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Notice how easy it is to trade for Thabeet? I gave up Giddens and Scalabrine in my Celts franchise.

[Ferrari997]

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TeamBuilder, I remember you being this crazy dude that fixes people's teams and does crazy trades and all.

I challenge you to find a way to get Melo on the Bulls without giving up Rose. Preferably without Tyrus or Noah either, but not the end of the world if ya do. Main trading pieces should be Hinrich/Deng/Salmons/Draft Picks.

Obviously, not allowed to trade override. You think you can do it?

[Hassan Darkside]

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I know that Nuggets trading Melo isn't the most realistic scenario, but that's just how I play my association. Trust me, I'm not one of those crazy guys that load up their roster with studs. Melo is just my favorite player, plain and simple.

I do appreciate the new trade logic as I can't just make any trade I want. But at the same time, it really sucks that I can't get my Melo lol. I've tried some really good deals IMO too. Something along the lines of:

Granger, Troy Murphy, Salmons to Nuggets
Melo and throw in players to the Bulls
Hinrich and Deng to the Pacers

I believe both teams get one of my first rounders too.

I mean come on, that's not that bad of an offer. The ones with Bosh, Amare, and Boozer were good ones too. I just want to build around Rose and Melo, and I hope to keep Tyrus and Noah, but I'd trade them away in a second if I have to.

Um...how is this even fair? Nuggets give up their franchise player, Pacers give up their franchise player, Bulls give up two role players. Hmm...


You should also consider trying to trade expiring contracts too.

[JBH3]

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this is great to hear

QFT.