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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #1

    Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

    Just got finished with the 3rd episode of the 24/7.......

    Saturday can't come soon enough

    BTW if what's going on in Manny's camp is real [the drama between the adviser and trainers] that's a damn shame

    I love my countryman but I have Cotto in this one either by decision or KO
  • pk500
    All Star
    • Jul 2002
    • 8062

    #2
    Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    BTW if what's going on in Manny's camp is real [the drama between the adviser and trainers] that's a damn shame
    I think it's having VERY little effect on Manny, if any at all. Freddie Roach still runs the show in that camp, and everything else are just satellites orbiting around the outer edges of Planet Freddie-Manny.

    The one thing I noticed about Manny in the third episode is that he looks more bulked up than he did for the Oscar or Hatton fights. He always looks in phenomenal shape, but his torso muscles looked really THICK, as if he knows Cotto will hit him harder than anyone he's faced.

    Yet Manny still looks ridiculously fast. Combine that with the HUGE advantage in trainer experience and skill for Manny, and I see him either winning with an early KO or a decision.

    This fight either will end early with a Manny KO if he is able to exploit a flaw or weakness in Cotto like he did against Hatton, or it will go the distance, with Manny winning a unanimous decision.

    I don't think Cotto will leave himself nearly as vulnerable to Manny's shots as Hatton because Cotto has become much more of a counterpuncher at welterweight than the seek-and-destroy fighter he was at light welter.

    Can't wait for this fight!

    Take care,
    PK
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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #3
      Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

      Hey I hope you're right

      Cotto's chin scares the daylight's out of me. The man will not submit.

      I have a feeling it's going to be a war.. the exact opposite of Pac's last two bouts.

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      • jwheels9876
        Rookie
        • Dec 2002
        • 198

        #4
        Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

        This should be a great fight! I'm rooting for Cotto.
        I have seen Cotto take punches from big guys and deal with guys with superior speed, I don't know if manny can handle the power Cotto will bring? I can't wait, this is the kind of fight that restores my passion for the sport.

        I'll take Cotto by 10th rnd stoppage.

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        • aznpnoy
          Rookie
          • Sep 2006
          • 50

          #5
          Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

          I also think Pacman wins this one via TKO just like the dela Hoya fight. Manny's combination of speed + power will outclass Cotto. This is how I feel from watching Cotto's last 2 fights and Manny's fight with bigger guys.

          Diaz, dela Hoya and Hatton all were outclassed because of this combination and I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for Cotto.

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          • pk500
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 8062

            #6
            Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            Cotto's chin scares the daylight's out of me. The man will not submit.
            You must have missed the Margarito fight. Cotto submitted in that fight, quitting.

            Then again, it's almost a certainty that Tony's wraps were loaded, as no man ever has turned Cotto's face into raw cube steak like Margarito, before or after that fight.

            Take care,
            PK
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #7
              Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

              Originally posted by pk500
              You must have missed the Margarito fight. Cotto submitted in that fight, quitting.

              Then again, it's almost a certainty that Tony's wraps were loaded, as no man ever has turned Cotto's face into raw cube steak like Margarito, before or after that fight.

              Take care,
              PK
              Also he took 10 rounds of punishment before quitting. 10 rounds of getting hit in the face by hardened wraps is amazing. I have Cotto winning this by late KO.

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              • pk500
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 8062

                #8
                Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                Help my 44-year-old memory here: Who's the last guy to put Manny on his butt? Morales? Barrera?

                Take care,
                PK
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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #9
                  Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                  Originally posted by pk500
                  You must have missed the Margarito fight. Cotto submitted in that fight, quitting.

                  Then again, it's almost a certainty that Tony's wraps were loaded, as no man ever has turned Cotto's face into raw cube steak like Margarito, before or after that fight.

                  Take care,
                  PK
                  I didn't :]

                  That fight can actually be used as my main argument that he has a chin. It's more than likely the guy was hit with illegal wraps.. for multiple rounds. The guy simply would not give in until he was going to get his career cut short.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #10
                    Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                    Originally posted by pk500
                    Help my 44-year-old memory here: Who's the last guy to put Manny on his butt? Morales? Barrera?

                    Take care,
                    PK
                    Morales.

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                    • pk500
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8062

                      #11
                      Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                      Thanks, A! My 8-year-old son and I watched fight one of the Manny-Morales trilogy a couple of months ago. Nice trip down Memory Lane.

                      Take care,
                      PK
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                      • HotSauce2k3
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 1848

                        #12
                        Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                        Rooting for Pacman all the way, but I really feel that Cotto will take this one in under 12 rounds (IOW, it won't be pretty for Pacquiao, especially given his heart not to give up). I really respect Cotto's game and his work ethic. The dude can bang with the best welterweights, he has really heavy hands that are deceptively fast, and although he has been KD'd before and wobbled many times, he recovers effortlessly.

                        I hope Manny can successfully use his speed and footwork, because he will definitely need it. Many assume Manny will be at full energy for the full 12 rounds but I see him tiring out in the middle rounds at this weight. He was starting to look gassed in the later rounds against DLH when he fought at 147, and he didn't suffer any of the body shots Cotto is likely to dish out. Most are worried about whether Pac can take a true Welterweight punch, but what I am wondering is if a true Welterweight is affected by his punch.

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                        • Complex
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2494

                          #13
                          Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                          I think this fight is won by Cotto inside of 12 rounds. I see Cotto stalking Manny taking a few shots here and there but eventually cornering Manny making him brawl. Manny will revert to his old self and try to brawl too, a big mistake.
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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #14
                            Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

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                            • pk500
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 8062

                              #15
                              Re: Cotto v. Pacman November 14th

                              Predictions from fellow boxers, celebrities:



                              This prediction from George Lopez cracks me up:

                              "Manny Pacquiao's nickname is 'The Mexicutioner.' He's beaten more Latinos than the police. Pacquiao...unanimous decision."

                              - George Lopez, Comedian, Actor, and Host of Lopez Tonight!

                              Take care,
                              PK
                              Last edited by pk500; 11-10-2009, 09:51 AM.
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