Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

[MJenness]

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I could pretty much guarantee that after this patch is out, this is the last Madden i'll be playing unless I see some eye opening, innovative game play, like that of the 06 Madden commercials where they show a cgi Donny Mcnabb thinking it was real gameplay footage from 06 Madden.

Then this is the last Madden you'll be playing, because all they are doing is trying to put a band-aid on what is broken primarily.

[XtremeDunkz]

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so i guess ian is never coming back? lol. This time last year he was all over this place gathering feedback for madden 10...

[RGiles36]

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so i guess ian is never coming back? lol. This time last year he was all over this place gathering feedback for madden 10...

I think he'll come back, but it'll be on a limited basis. Again, I have no inside information. But right now, I just don't foresee him making a comeback and interacting in the same capacity he once did. Me personally, I'm expecting him to come with a thread/poll here or there to collect feedback throughout the cycle and that may be about it. I don't expect him to stroll through random threads lending responses as he previously did.

[stanley roper]

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Then this is the last Madden you'll be playing, because all they are doing is trying to put a band-aid on what is broken primarily.

Yeah but it's the principles that count. I mean, sure, games are not without faults, but come on, we are in week 9, going towards week 10, possibly week 11 when the patch finally comes out. The testing out of all the kinks, glitches etc should have been done prior to it's release so it would have been easier and faster to fix.

the NBA games have already been getting patched on it's 2nd one already and it's only been a few weeks since it's release. One thing that EA Madden sucks at is it's QA. Just saying.

[mike24forever]

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I think he'll come back, but it'll be on a limited basis. Again, I have no inside information. But right now, I just don't foresee him making a comeback and interacting in the same capacity he once did. Me personally, I'm expecting him to come with a thread/poll here or there to collect feedback throughout the cycle and that may be about it. I don't expect him to stroll through random threads lending responses as he previously did.

Why would he come back and interact on the same level as he did. He made and effort and look at how people here treated him. Attacking him and setting up their own anti-
EA agendas. It was bad. So bad that they had to put a new admendment to the TOS. I think people here did not apprecitate what we had. He made great strides in this years game, and not to see it...well some people just don't want to like anything made by EA.

[marcus82]

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Why would he come back and interact on the same level as he did. He made and effort and look at how people here treated him. Attacking him and setting up their own anti-
EA agendas. It was bad. So bad that they had to put a new admendment to the TOS. I think people here did not apprecitate what we had. He made great strides in this years game, and not to see it...well some people just don't want to like anything made by EA.

psshhhh...i wasn't here last year but from what I've read the EA team came here with a lot of broken promises. I appreciate Ian's attempt to connect as in most industries/for most products you don't have an opportunity for direct feedback of consumer concerns. if you don't think bounty is the quicker picker upper you don't get to come on a website and bitch and moan to the head R&D guy. you simply switch brands. hmmmm novel idea madden nation.

having said that, if consumer/developer interaction results in the same ol' madden for the most part and missing features (man align, swim moves, flats defense) then it was a waste of time for both parties.

Here's to Ian not wasting his or our time. He knows what's wrong with the game and if he doesn't then God bless him. don't worry about talking to us knuckleheads, worry about getting this game right.

[RyanMoody21]

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Why would he come back and interact on the same level as he did. He made and effort and look at how people here treated him. Attacking him and setting up their own anti-
EA agendas. It was bad. So bad that they had to put a new admendment to the TOS. I think people here did not apprecitate what we had. He made great strides in this years game, and not to see it...well some people just don't want to like anything made by EA.

Please. He is a grown man and needs to be responsible for his own words. I find it very hard to imagine a message board taught him that.

You can put whatever spin you like on it, anti-EA, agenda motives or people not liking EA products. You can even assume people didn't appreciate having that type of interaction.

The problem is that interaction is useless if the information isn't being used. Regardless of if you agreed with how each person conveyed a message, the point was people are passionate about the game and want it to be improved. Expect some frustration with that passion.

At the end of the day, promises got made that didn't get kept. Its very easy to go back and look at Ian's own words in addition to EA's Dev Blogs and see things that simply are not in M10.

Its not that people cant look past the improvements in this years game, its that to some one lie can over shadow all promises kept.

Ian left on his own, seemingly not able to take the negative comments. Thats fine, thats on him. I commend the guy for coming out and saying it rather than just leaving. My issue is that he doesn't seem to understand why the negativity is there.

Asking about pursuit angle examples, saying ball certain morphs arent possible in the game and claiming the aspects of crowd noise worked when they didnt. He should have expected to get called out on all that exactly the way he did. You wanna market the game towards kids, thats fine, but dont come into a forum and treat people like kids.

[roadman]

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Please. He is a grown man and needs to be responsible for his own words. I find it very hard to imagine a message board taught him that.

You can put whatever spin you like on it, anti-EA, agenda motives or people not liking EA products. You can even assume people didn't appreciate having that type of interaction.

The problem is that interaction is useless if the information isn't being used. Regardless of if you agreed with how each person conveyed a message, the point was people are passionate about the game and want it to be improved. Expect some frustration with that passion.

At the end of the day, promises got made that didn't get kept. Its very easy to go back and look at Ian's own words in addition to EA's Dev Blogs and see things that simply are not in M10.

Its not that people cant look past the improvements in this years game, its that to some one lie can over shadow all promises kept.

Ian left on his own, seemingly not able to take the negative comments. Thats fine, thats on him. I commend the guy for coming out and saying it rather than just leaving. My issue is that he doesn't seem to understand why the negativity is there.

Asking about pursuit angle examples, saying ball certain morphs arent possible in the game and claiming the aspects of crowd noise worked when they didnt. He should have expected to get called out on all that exactly the way he did. You wanna market the game towards kids, thats fine, but dont come into a forum and treat people like kids.

You had me in the first part ,except for the lying part, you lost me in the second part.

Are you in the know that Ian left because of the negative comments and how they are presented? That is just pure speculation and we don't know the real reason. I don't mind myself and others to criticize the game, but not go after the developers when we are not in the know.(not saying you did, but others certainly did and that's why the TOS was added. that is on us)

[riznaiders]

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been playing since the first madden. it gets better every year. i used to like this place. but know i hate hearing all these idiots. please ban my account.

[Steven123]

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Please. He is a grown man and needs to be responsible for his own words. I find it very hard to imagine a message board taught him that.

You can put whatever spin you like on it, anti-EA, agenda motives or people not liking EA products. You can even assume people didn't appreciate having that type of interaction.

The problem is that interaction is useless if the information isn't being used. Regardless of if you agreed with how each person conveyed a message, the point was people are passionate about the game and want it to be improved. Expect some frustration with that passion.

At the end of the day, promises got made that didn't get kept. Its very easy to go back and look at Ian's own words in addition to EA's Dev Blogs and see things that simply are not in M10.

Its not that people cant look past the improvements in this years game, its that to some one lie can over shadow all promises kept.

Ian left on his own, seemingly not able to take the negative comments. Thats fine, thats on him. I commend the guy for coming out and saying it rather than just leaving. My issue is that he doesn't seem to understand why the negativity is there.

Asking about pursuit angle examples, saying ball certain morphs arent possible in the game and claiming the aspects of crowd noise worked when they didnt. He should have expected to get called out on all that exactly the way he did. You wanna market the game towards kids, thats fine, but dont come into a forum and treat people like kids.

+1.
I was pretty much done with Madden until Ian showed up. I really believe d things were gonna change but it didnt. We were given all this info and videos to keep our interest high for the game. Then its finally released with a ton of bugs and glitches, where's Ian and company ? Nowhere to be found..

[EvanRG]

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I'm so excited for the Madden Arcade game!!!

[wheelman990]

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People who talk about EA or 2k agendas are usually the fanboys themselves. Just look at live 10. Good job to them, what a turn around. When you build a solid game, you get praise, when you release a broken game, you get complaints. Specially when your the only game choice to the fans. I think most people agree Maddens took a step forward this year. The reality is its the 4th next gen title and still feels like a first year beta. I dont mean that as a bash, I'm just stating the majority feel this way. How can we expect people not to gripe on here? There just tired of waiting year after year.

For me personally, Madden needs to feel fresh, and yet feel like a completed game. $60 is a lot of cion in todays economy for a lightly revised version.

Lets hope this 2nd patch can substantially improve some issues.

I mean no harm to those that love the game. I would love to enjoy it right with you. Footballs the greatest. I TRUELY hope EA's releases a killer game next year. Both NBA Live 10 & 2k10 spoiled me this year...loved them! Next year could be a great sport game year!

[roadman]

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People who talk about EA or 2k agendas are usually the fanboys themselves. Just look at live 10. Good job to them, what a turn around. When you build a solid game, you get praise, when you release a broken game, you get complaints. Specially when your the only game choice to the fans. I think most people agree Maddens took a step forward this year. The reality is its the 4th next gen title and still feels like a first year beta. I dont mean that as a bash, I'm just stating the majority feel this way. How can we expect people not to gripe on here? There just tired of waiting year after year.

For me personally, Madden needs to feel fresh, and yet feel like a completed game. $60 is a lot of cion in todays economy for a lightly revised version.

Lets hope this 2nd patch can substantially improve some issues.

I mean no harm to those that love the game. I would love to enjoy it right with you. Footballs the greatest. I TRUELY hope EA's releases a killer game next year. Both NBA Live 10 & 2k10 spoiled me this year...loved them! Next year could be a great sport game year!

Nice post, I agree with most of it except I'm still playing Madden because it's much more fresh than 09 was for me.

I don't have an issue with people griping, but it's how they gripe and the constant griping from the same people is what bugs me. People tend to focus much more on the negativity because it sticks out more, but forget the positives that the game brings out.

It was much simpler in my days of gaming. I started with Pong, and what I put into the system, we got back. Same with Atari's gaming system all the way to the Sega Genesis. Pop in Joe Montana football or Bill Walsh College Football and that was what you got. I remember paying $50.00 for a Magic Johnson bball game on the NES and it was horrendous. No patches, you deal with it.

Now, with NG gaming, there is the internet and the demands for perfection or realism. If I put 100's of hrs into a game, I'm satisfied, I got my money's worth. Some people can't play Madden more than so many hrs because it's not up to their quality of standards.

[bukktown]

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Nice post, I agree with most of it except I'm still playing Madden because it's much more fresh than 09 was for me.

I don't have an issue with people griping, but it's how they gripe and the constant griping from the same people is what bugs me. People tend to focus much more on the negativity because it sticks out more, but forget the positives that the game brings out.

It was much simpler in my days of gaming. I started with Pong, and what I put into the system, we got back. Same with Atari's gaming system all the way to the Sega Genesis. Pop in Joe Montana football or Bill Walsh College Football and that was what you got. I remember paying $50.00 for a Magic Johnson bball game on the NES and it was horrendous. No patches, you deal with it.

Now, with NG gaming, there is the internet and the demands for perfection or realism. If I put 100's of hrs into a game, I'm satisfied, I got my money's worth. Some people can't play Madden more than so many hrs because it's not up to their quality of standards.

I too bought that game which might be the worst sports game of all time.

[roadman]

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I too bought that game which might be the worst sports game of all time.

We must be the only one's left on Earth that bought that game. It was heavily sponsored by Pepsi.

So, talk about ads during a game, this one was more intrusive than Madden and that was 20 yrs ago.