Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

[grunt]

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I just ebayed my Madden.

It got boring fast.

How this have anything to do with the 2nd patch? We all have our own pet peeve with the game but if you like football gaming how did it get boring in just 3 months?

[J.R. Locke]

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Not to cause trouble but EA has in the past walked away from announcements. The life its PC brand of games was announced "a new future" then summarily forgotten about. NBA Live was basically cancelled one year after they said they were still working on it.

Anyways i am quite skeptical about this game. The silence is indeed frightening considering how open and direct the developers were this time last year.

It is a shame. I enjoy Madden 10. The broadcast view added a lot for me. I was hoping patch 2 would take it over the top.

[ForeverYoung]

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Not to cause trouble but EA has in the past walked away from announcements. The life its PC brand of games was announced "a new future" then summarily forgotten about. NBA Live was basically cancelled one year after they said they were still working on it.

Anyways i am quite skeptical about this game. The silence is indeed frightening considering how open and direct the developers were this time last year.

It is a shame. I enjoy Madden 10. The broadcast view added a lot for me. I was hoping patch 2 would take it over the top.

So you're thinking that patch #2 won't be released at all?
It wouldn't surprise me after what happened to the (in)famous free Sim DLC for Madden 09 last year.

[SwayGod53]

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I just can't believe they still haven't address online franchise issues that have been there since release, such as rookie's ages showing up 40-50 years old or the scoring summary STILL being out of whack.

They talked about how they could update things on the fly and make changes if needed to, but we've seen almost nothing.

I tested an Online Draft as commish from my PC last night, it was one of the most painful experiences of my life, no clock option on PC, wasn't letting me select a player, menus not coming up...it was horrid.

It's like they had to throw OF in so they did the bare minimum of what they had to do to call it an "OF"...

[GatorBait06NC]

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You're basically saying that gameplay shouldn't be addressed by a patch because diehard gamers are an obsessive-compulsive group. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't but refusing to improve the product because of some group's neurosis is it's own insanity.

LMAO, are you serious. I bought a game in August. I played 5 seasons in my first franchise. Then they release the first patch. This first patch alters the gameplay in the wrong way by making the runners stutter while running. And is a complete failure in fixing simmed stats for the CPU.

Then this 2nd patch is suppose to fix all this. So basically youre are making excuses for EA. I dont care what the development cycle is. Bottom line is that EA chooses to make an NFL game every year. Why? Money. So if you are going to do it your way, then dont half-*** it. Otherwise release a game every other year.

I have a bigger problem with NCAA. NCAA 10 is junk. Madden is a good game, but im starting to see these patches affect the game in a bad way compared to how the game came out of the box.

But i spend countless hours playing 5 seasons in franchise, only to watch a patch alter gameplay that forces me to come up with a whole new set of sliders. And if it had fixed the sim stats, what sane person wouldnt have wanted to start over with better gameplay and simmed stats??? My line were going down in overall every year due to the pancake stat being screwed. Bad thing is that the first patch actually made the game worse. Im all for presentation. But atleast go about it the right way. Take notes from the NCAA 10 basketball team and kill the repetitive halftime show.

You may need to go look at the definition for obsessive compulsive.

[RumbleCard]

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I'm not trying to misrepresent what he said or put words in his mouth but if you read the last line of his quote I get the impression that the patch hasn't actually been submitted for approval yet. Basically I'm left with the notion that they're still working on it and we aren't in the MS/Sony approval phase like mentioned time and time again in this thread. With that said, and if true, I bet the time frame is more along the lines of a few weeks to a month vs. any day now.

Just an opinion based on what I read. Not saying that's what he implied.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-forums-3.html

Here is what Ian said.

There's no 'possibly' to it. lol.

It sucks that we've been quiet, and I know there are folks here that are restless and also getting more and more negative, but there's not much I can do really. The 2nd title update has taken a long time to finish, and there were a bunch more hiccups in the road that we didn't expect. Larry and I created a blog showing what was approved and guaranteed to be in the patch, but as you all know I won't promise anything else until I'm 100% sure it's going in so I don't end up getting roasted (at least worse than I already do).

As Valdarez said, we are working on re-tooling how we will be communicating, and unfortunately it will not be daily direct interaction here on OS. As much as I loved many aspects of the interaction, it also got way too personal so there needs to be a better way to pull this stuff off that doesn't drive every employee that steps into the community into a depression. For every thread where I might have gotten great feedback on what to improve, there was some other guy making youtube videos about how he thinks I am a liar and posting them in the same thread. That type of s--t can ruin your night or even your weekend. So why put up with that if we don't have to?

Some ideas we've had so far include invite-only forums, polls, regular live chats, regular podcasts/radio show type of things, and many other ways to try and take all the lessons that we learned from the 10 cycle and fine-tune it to remove all the bad stuff for 11.

You will hear from us as soon as the information is locked in. Until then, I can't help much more than that.

[BroMontana82]

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either way, whatever. i enjoy madden but can't really play a true franchise based on robo-QB and the stats. i'm not selling it though and am patiently waiting. im the meantime, i'm playing nba 2k10 and COD so it's all good for me.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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LMAO, are you serious. I bought a game in August. I played 5 seasons in my first franchise. Then they release the first patch. This first patch alters the gameplay in the wrong way by making the runners stutter while running. And is a complete failure in fixing simmed stats for the CPU.

Then this 2nd patch is suppose to fix all this. So basically youre are making excuses for EA. I dont care what the development cycle is. Bottom line is that EA chooses to make an NFL game every year. Why? Money. So if you are going to do it your way, then dont half-*** it. Otherwise release a game every other year.

I have a bigger problem with NCAA. NCAA 10 is junk. Madden is a good game, but im starting to see these patches affect the game in a bad way compared to how the game came out of the box.

But i spend countless hours playing 5 seasons in franchise, only to watch a patch alter gameplay that forces me to come up with a whole new set of sliders. And if it had fixed the sim stats, what sane person wouldnt have wanted to start over with better gameplay and simmed stats??? My line were going down in overall every year due to the pancake stat being screwed. Bad thing is that the first patch actually made the game worse. Im all for presentation. But atleast go about it the right way. Take notes from the NCAA 10 basketball team and kill the repetitive halftime show.

You may need to go look at the definition for obsessive compulsive.

I'm not making excuses for EA. I absolutely agree that in a perfect world sports games would get a long development cycle and come out every other year. Unfortunately, we don't live in that fantasy world and the gaming industry simply isn't going to change for the obvious reason: money. Either accept the reality that we'll get rushed products with varying degrees of flaws every year like has been the case for the last two decades worth or sporting games or don't. However you feel about it isn't going to change how it is anytime in the foreseeable future and arguing about how it should be is purely worthless and aggitating activity.

Now there can either be a patch to address the rushed product or not. It's very simple for the consumer: either these companies fix their rushed products or they don't. It's one or the other for Madden and certainly I would prefer they fix it. It looks like they're doing so too which is great news for me and anyone who possesses some degree of patience! The alternatives to downloading patches at the moment are that you can play the game that shipped and not patch it or not buy it in the first place. This is all very, very simple. Regarding the timeframe, well it sounds like you want it both ways and that's probably asking too much. You want the game patched both quickly and without creating other problems because the patch is rushed? Good luck with that!

It also sounds like you started your franchise and are upset because (assuming the patch can be applied to existing franchises) you're going to have some unsightly statistical numbers in its history so you're going to have to choose between accepting that they're there or restarting. I can understand why you're upset but it sounds to me based on your original post like because of the need to rectify the "funny" numbers you'd rather there be no patch at all. I'm just calling it like I see it but as someone who would like to see the product I purchased improved by the manufacturer I take major issue with your position.

[TheCreep]

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Well, I guess I'm not as sim as I thought, because I play this **** daily and love it. Guess I'm a casual player huh, lol. Plays fine to me.

Matter of fact, this is the first Madden in ages where (provided I have the time) I can actually sit through more than one game at a time. Now thats saying something.

Madden 10 is great, flaws included. Tiburon dev team, keep hammering out those bugs and building on the foundation, I cant wait to see what you all have in store for 11.

[grunt]

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LMAO, are you serious. I bought a game in August. I played 5 seasons in my first franchise. Then they release the first patch. This first patch alters the gameplay in the wrong way by making the runners stutter while running. And is a complete failure in fixing simmed stats for the CPU.

Then this 2nd patch is suppose to fix all this. So basically youre are making excuses for EA. I dont care what the development cycle is. Bottom line is that EA chooses to make an NFL game every year. Why? Money. So if you are going to do it your way, then dont half-*** it. Otherwise release a game every other year.

I have a bigger problem with NCAA. NCAA 10 is junk. Madden is a good game, but im starting to see these patches affect the game in a bad way compared to how the game came out of the box.

But i spend countless hours playing 5 seasons in franchise, only to watch a patch alter gameplay that forces me to come up with a whole new set of sliders. And if it had fixed the sim stats, what sane person wouldnt have wanted to start over with better gameplay and simmed stats??? My line were going down in overall every year due to the pancake stat being screwed. Bad thing is that the first patch actually made the game worse. Im all for presentation. But atleast go about it the right way. Take notes from the NCAA 10 basketball team and kill the repetitive halftime show.

You may need to go look at the definition for obsessive compulsive.

You point is valid. What did the first patch fix? Almost like I am living in the matrix. We had the same amount of excitement for the first patch but still ended up with serious gameplay issues.

[grunt]

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Well, I guess I'm not as sim as I thought, because I play this **** daily and love it. Guess I'm a casual player huh, lol. Plays fine to me.

Matter of fact, this is the first Madden in ages where (provided I have the time) I can actually sit through more than one game at a time. Now thats saying something.

Madden 10 is great, flaws included. Tiburon dev team, keep hammering out those bugs and building on the foundation, I cant wait to see what you all have in store for 11.

Madden is as sim as we want. Sometimes I think madden is too sim because so many players play towards the flaw of the game vs the sim aspect. I am enjoying the game as a sim but frustrated with pursuit angles.

[ForeverYoung]

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I'm not trying to misrepresent what he said or put words in his mouth but if you read the last line of his quote I get the impression that the patch hasn't actually been submitted for approval yet. Basically I'm left with the notion that they're still working on it and we aren't in the MS/Sony approval phase like mentioned time and time again in this thread. With that said, and if true, I bet the time frame is more along the lines of a few weeks to a month vs. any day now.

Just an opinion based on what I read. Not saying that's what he implied.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-forums-3.html

Here is what Ian said.

I think this statement by Ian makes it pretty clear that the patch is still not submitted:
"Larry and I created a blog showing what was approved and guaranteed to be in the patch, but as you all know I won't promise anything else until I'm 100% sure it's going in so I don't end up getting roasted (at least worse than I already do)."

He also stated that it took a long time to finish the 2nd patch, so the patch itself seems to be finished but it looks like it's in internal EA testing and if some issues are found the respective fix will be removed from the patch.

[cover3blitz]

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Anyone else notice in Ian's 2nd last post, he said the 2nd update "HAS" taken a long time to finish, interesting that he never said it "TOOK" a long time.

I don't think it's in the final approval stages, i think it's not done.

Or

It was done and then MS or Sony said, no go back and fix this and that

[Jm0ney2001]

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Well pastapadre posted that the patch was in ms/sonys hands a couple of weeks ago. And we would see the madden patch in the 1st half of nov.

[RumbleCard]

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Well pastapadre posted that the patch was in ms/sonys hands a couple of weeks ago. And we would see the madden patch in the 1st half of nov.

Well thats what we've all pretty much gone off of but Ian statements seem to somewhat conflict with that. Wouldn't he have said that its in Sony/MS testing?

I doubt Sony/MS sent it back asking things to be fixed because its not their job to actually test whether the patch fixed anything or not they just test it to make sure it won't cause any hardware damage and/or to see if there are things that might not jive with, what is it called ESRB, rating system.