Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

[Steeler99]

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OMG! LMAO! If they fix his jock strap, and give him a cup, Madden would be so good!

You have got to be kidding me ... "Visor Clips"? I didn't even notice they were there in the first place!!! Come on people, focus on FOOTBALL!

[swanlee]

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Yep this is clearly where the ball has been dropped this year. Last year''s game was worse but we got a patch day one and a second patch within a reasonable timeframe.

This year the game is released the first patch took WAY to long and now the second patch is hitting half way through the NFL season.

This years game was very good but the ball was seriously dropped with the patch schedule whihc has left this years game with a bad stigma.

[shigogouhou]

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I'm on a 20" square standard definition TV, I don't have a camera angle that lets me see the flats & WR screens and I probably couldn't make out a visor clip on my screen regardless of how long I spent camera-tilting in instant replay, but that doesn't make his wish/request of having them fixed any less valid.

The whole "Only what I like matters, screw everyone else their desires are stupid if they aren't the same as mine" attitude is the attitude that got us into the Madden mess in the first place because the developers at the time wanted something different than you did.

[jimbo1215]

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Let me clarify by saying I can care less about visors/equipment as well. I was just doing my best to answer a question.

[dfos81]

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Let me clarify by saying I can care less about visors/equipment as well. I was just doing my best to answer a question.

I know you were. Now for the one that started the visor question, he has to be kidding.
Is it me or do you guys feel a patch coming in the very near future

[johnreyes]

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Good job, Ian Cummings. Remember when he was all over the boards hyping up this game? That seems light years ago.

[dfos81]

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Yep this is clearly where the ball has been dropped this year. Last year''s game was worse but we got a patch day one and a second patch within a reasonable timeframe.

This year the game is released the first patch took WAY to long and now the second patch is hitting half way through the NFL season.

This years game was very good but the ball was seriously dropped with the patch schedule whihc has left this years game with a bad stigma.

Well lets just hope that this patch is taking longer b/c it really is the "big one". The more they fix, the longer it will take. So we'll see.

[ProjectSRT]

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Let me clarify by saying I can care less about visors/equipment as well. I was just doing my best to answer a question.

It's "couldn't care less". Saying i could/can care less means you actually could care a little bit less.

Thanks for trying to clear everything up tho, i think you pretty much understood my gripe.

I know you were. Now for the one that started the visor question, he has to be kidding.
Is it me or do you guys feel a patch coming in the very near future

No, im not kidding, in the slightest. I dont have a problem with the other areas of the game. I think the visor issue should be an easy fix, if they fix it, awesome.

Im not saying that should be a priority, im just stating that i dont have a problem with the state the game is in now, the only thing that bugs me is the visor fitting issue.

[harnalien]

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It's "couldn't care less". Saying i could/can care less means you actually could care a little bit less.

Thanks for trying to clear everything up tho, i think you pretty much understood my gripe.





No, im not kidding, in the slightest. I dont have a problem with the other areas of the game. I think the visor issue should be an easy fix, if they fix it, awesome.

Im not saying that should be a priority, im just stating that i dont have a problem with the state the game is in now, the only thing that bugs me is the visor fitting issue.

seriously?

[Flamehead]

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So here's what I'm wondering:

Will everyone here who's frustrated with the fact that a) patches are needed to fix some fairly significant issues, and b) the fact that they're taking so long, remember this in the summer and clamor to include questions about quality assurance if/when EA takes questions about Madden 2011?

Inevitably I'm sure EA wants to get this patch done, for among other reasons, so that things calm down a bit and they can begin turning everyone's attention to Madden '11--you know, the traditional "look what we have coming guys!"

My hope is that this frustration is not forgotten in the hype of the next game, and that effective quality control PRE-release becomes a legitimate issue for discussion. Not the sexiest thing in the world, but are we not impacted by it well into November?

While not probable, I believe this is possible if EA is not given COMPLETE free reign to COMPLETELY dictate the course of those discussions based on public feedback. Of course, they could still choose to ignore those questions or comments because they wouldn't fit into the marketing message and talking points that must be adhered to. And if so, then ce' la vie.

IMHO, Madden '10 was a better effort, but not solid. And I'm not even talking new features, because those inevitably come in time. I'm simply talking about releasing a product in August that is tantamount to beta, then announcing to the community that you'll just let them bring to your attention what needs to be fixed, i.e., the "cream rising to the top" comment thrown out there (by yes, Ian). We effectively become paying QA testers, and lnumerous threads appear regarding patches and their status as time goes on.

We can debate the merits of patches all we want, but if this is their idea of QA, it is horribly lacking and becomes more prevalent with each release. Do the developers lack the skill set to "get it done"? Given the repeated history with this, I submit these are valid questions regardless of any mods with itchy trigger fingers or fans who (in extreme cases) are the "Bagdad Bobs" of Madden (everything's fine; nothing to see here; everything is under control. Please go back into your homes and be happy with your beta).

So, even if you get what you want in this patch, will you be willing to go through it again next year? Or will it be important enough to tell that them that you care about this at the beginning? Or will you care at all then, though you may care now?

[GTheorenHobbes]

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Flamehead, I've been put in time-out before for asking some of those very same questions (notably, the talent one), but obviously I think yours is a very good post. I will point out that Madden's overall sales have slid for 5 straight years now, while sales for The Show, NBA2k10, NHL10 and FIFA have gone up, so I think it's safe to say that a number of sports gamers have already reached their breaking point with the series, even if the quality did go up some this year.

[grismosw]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

So here's what I'm wondering:

Will everyone here who's frustrated with the fact that a) patches are needed to fix some fairly significant issues, and b) the fact that they're taking so long, remember this in the summer and clamor to include questions about quality assurance if/when EA takes questions about Madden 2011?

Inevitably I'm sure EA wants to get this patch done, for among other reasons, so that things calm down a bit and they can begin turning everyone's attention to Madden '11--you know, the traditional "look what we have coming guys!"

My hope is that this frustration is not forgotten in the hype of the next game, and that effective quality control PRE-release becomes a legitimate issue for discussion. Not the sexiest thing in the world, but are we not impacted by it well into November?

While not probable, I believe this is possible if EA is not given COMPLETE free reign to COMPLETELY dictate the course of those discussions based on public feedback. Of course, they could still choose to ignore those questions or comments because they wouldn't fit into the marketing message and talking points that must be adhered to. And if so, then ce' la vie.

IMHO, Madden '10 was a better effort, but not solid. And I'm not even talking new features, because those inevitably come in time. I'm simply talking about releasing a product in August that is tantamount to beta, then announcing to the community that you'll just let them bring to your attention what needs to be fixed, i.e., the "cream rising to the top" comment thrown out there (by yes, Ian). We effectively become paying QA testers, and lnumerous threads appear regarding patches and their status as time goes on.

We can debate the merits of patches all we want, but if this is their idea of QA, it is horribly lacking and becomes more prevalent with each release. Do the developers lack the skill set to "get it done"? Given the repeated history with this, I submit these are valid questions regardless of any mods with itchy trigger fingers or fans who (in extreme cases) are the "Bagdad Bobs" of Madden (everything's fine; nothing to see here; everything is under control. Please go back into your homes and be happy with your beta).

So, even if you get what you want in this patch, will you be willing to go through it again next year? Or will it be important enough to tell that them that you care about this at the beginning? Or will you care at all then, though you may care now?

Either way I'm done but I'm hoping to salvage something out of my $60. Lets hope they fix more than they break.

[R.Moncrief]

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It's "couldn't care less". Saying i could/can care less means you actually could care a little bit less.

seriously?

I can totally agree here with ProjectSRT. That's one of my major pet peeves because the phrase is usually used in arguments where one person aims to become passive and sarcastically nonchalant all a sudden - in effect, usually ignoring the topic at hand. Which is made all the more annoying when said person exclaims "I could care less!!!" which, as said, only means said person actually cares a whole lot.

It's similar to the silly people out there who say "irregardless" and then start a whole rant when they're angry. "Irregardless" isn't even a damn word.

[kpkpkp]

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I can totally agree here with ProjectSRT. That's one of my major pet peeves because the phrase is usually used in arguments where one person aims to become passive and sarcastically nonchalant all a sudden - in effect, usually ignoring the topic at hand. Which is made all the more annoying when said person exclaims "I could care less!!!" which, as said, only means said person actually cares a whole lot.

It's similar to the silly people out there who say "irregardless" and then start a whole rant when they're angry. "Irregardless" isn't even a damn word.

Mine is when people say "For all intensive purposes."

[ODogg]

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Mine is when people say to when they mean too