Madden 10: AskMadden Tip of the Week

[clarkerots]

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The opening sentence told me this would be a comedic piece. "Madden has always mirrored the NFL. " Lol. Gets me every time.

Beat me to it!!!!

[Smokez4DAyz]

Motion can break press coverage, but I'm more apt to rely on 4 and 5 Wr sets. You can't Press all the receivers. Picks are not as common as these guys would have you think, but cross drags is about as old a passing play there is in football. So picks and man screens do exist. Not a terrible strategy at all. Man Contain, Press cOverAge ,bring the SS down and Bltiz behind the NT (3-4 d) to force the qb out the pocket. Screens don't often have time to work.

[Jackdog]

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Keep this discussion on topic. Leave any comparisons to other games out of it. That always causes threads to get locked. Also if anyone feels like bashing the game in thread,don't. We have a "Gripes" thread for that. Thanks.

[dfos81]

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Good tip, especially for my team(Redskins). I love using crossing routes w/ Santana Moss and ARE.
This really keeps the guessing game going for the D as well. They can't just BnR every play.

[MAHAM]

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Why was my post erased, was it my screenshot?

I did a writeup almost exactly the same a few months ago when Madden10 first came out.

How do beat bump and run...using crossing routes....by using natural picks...from shotgun 3 WR bunch sets....copied almost to the T.

Whoever AskMadden is, I don't appreciate you biting my tips that I posted on another Madden site. Biting other peoples work and trying to pop it off as your own is pathetic.

[Dmacho]

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Madden has always mirrored the NFL. In this week's tip, we look at what the Philadelphia Eagles have to take into account if they want to be successful passing the ball. This logic goes hand-in-hand with the Madden football series.

Bottom line, fast receivers are only a threat when they have space to use their speed. To overcome physical corners as well as inexperience, we hit practice mode to demonstrate how the Eagles in the NFL, as well as teams with undersized receivers in Madden, get open space for their playmakers to create big plays.

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Using picks to get open is illegal. How is using an illegal tactic(that should be called,but isn't)to beat bump and run coverage mirroring the NFL ?

[marcus82]

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first of all lol @ the first sentence - "mirroring the NFL" and all that jazz

and lol @ the whore like abuse of the "have an axe to grind" colloquialsm.


the fact that receiver have zero awareness of obstacles and their lack of ability to adjust to "natural picks" and crack back blocks makes this play cheese. you could probably run a play like this 50 times and 40 of the plays will result in an illegal pick play. and guess what the referee will never call it. See what happens in the NFL if a pick play is ran only a couple times in a game.

I'm not saying don't use it and I won't call you a name if you do. But use some common sense and call it cheese if that's what it is.

There is a difference between a tatic, strategy, and gameplan by the way. this is a tactic. A strategy would be the over arching concept of how a team wants to run its offense. No team from the high school level on up relys on illegal "pick plays" as its strategy.

case closed

[Mr. Franchise]

Looks more like a glitch to me.

[dfos81]

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I think Bumping WR's over 5yds downfield is a glitch!

I see BnR like that, I'm pulling this out in a heartbeat.

If its in the Game, its in the game.

Now how do counter it
And then the chess match begins..............

[RyanMoody21]

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I think Bumping WR's over 5yds downfield is a glitch!

I see BnR like that, I'm pulling this out in a heartbeat.

If its in the Game, its in the game.

Now how do counter it
And then the chess match begins..............

I assume by BnR your referring the jerky jumping back and forth the WR and DB do in the video. In reality thats just a loop replaying of the same motion capture animation, which by the way looks god awful.

Past 5 yards a DB is legally allowed to maintain contact with the WR. However in Madden you just have this very bad animation for it that basically has the two players take turns pushing off to accelerate past the other.


Please, dont defend gltiching and cheese plays with terms like "chess match" and "its in the game". Plenty of legit ways to beat press coverage, that doesnt involve bunch formations, hot routes and snapping with the defense in motion.

[marcoyk]

Nice. Thanks.

[dfos81]

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Past 5 yards a DB is legally allowed to maintain contact with the WR. However in Madden you just have this very bad animation for it that basically has the two players take turns pushing off to accelerate past the other.

Bumping past 5 yards is illegal, just as a WR picking a db. Bottom line!

The bumping past 5 yards is just as much a glitchy play as the WR picking a DB (BTW that wasn't a pick in that video, it was a rub off the LOS).

It only benefits the Db when they can bump 15yds down field, just like it only benefits the WR when he can get a pick off another WR.
If you want to allow bumping or holding within or after 5yds, then I say allow rub plays for WRs off the los.
Some may feel these are glitchy plays, but it really balances things out imo. If you can bump WRs then I belive its fair to have natural rub plays to counter these plays.

Now if EA actually increased the penalties for these plays, then this wouldn't be as big an issue imo.

[dfos81]

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Please, dont defend gltiching and cheese plays with terms like "chess match" and "its in the game". Plenty of legit ways to beat press coverage, that doesnt involve bunch formations, hot routes and snapping with the defense in motion.

I'm not defending glitchy plays, this wasn't even a pick play, it was a rub off the los.
This isn't a glitch to me. But to each their own.
The chess match begins when these things are allowed on both sides and both sides have ways to counter it.

Its not illegal to get a natural rub off the los.
Just as its not illegal for a db to maintain contact downfield w/o holding or bumping.

[dfos81]

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I assume by BnR your referring the jerky jumping back and forth the WR and DB do in the video. In reality thats just a loop replaying of the same motion capture animation, which by the way looks god awful.

As we all know that EA needs to improve on alot of animations, but thats for another thread.

I like the tip, it gives aggressive BnR teams something to think about.

[KBLover]

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Its not illegal to get a natural rub off the los.

A natural rub isn't the WR running right at and into the DB.

A real life DB in that situation would not charge head long into a WR coming right at him.

Real life DBs also wise up to this stuff, Madden DBs do not.

A natural rub is when the WR route combination causes the DBs in man to get *in each other's way* or otherwise have to go *around* another WR running his route (or in some cases, the umpire if it's a crossing/drag route).

That's not what I saw in that video. I saw a WR and a DB run right into each other. That's not a rub. At best its incidental contact - at worse...it's a pick.

Pick definition a) illegal offensive pass pattern in which one receiver blocks the defender covering another pass receiver in order to enable that receiver to get open b) slang for interception

That sounds a LOT like what I saw in the video.