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  • jyoung
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11132

    #1

    Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

    Editing this post since I'm still trying to figure out how the tiebreakers work.

    After four simmed seasons, I'm thinking:

    1) Conference record (pretty sure this is #1)
    2) Division record (maybe, not sure)
    3) ???????????
    Last edited by jyoung; 11-21-2009, 02:18 AM.
  • mjh91
    Rookie
    • Feb 2008
    • 463

    #2
    Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

    I don't see that on Sundays!
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    • BuzzKardzrool
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 84

      #3
      Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

      Great find. This is pretty bad. They deserve to get ripped for this one.

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      • DustinT
        Big Dummy
        • Nov 2004
        • 1933

        #4
        Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

        Not true. In the OS Official Franchise the Titans got in over the Texans when both had 8-8 records. Texans beat the Titans both games.
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        • jyoung
          Hall Of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11132

          #5
          Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

          Hmm, maybe online franchises have different tiebreakers than the offline one?

          I just simmed three seasons in an offline franchises and every time a tiebreak came up it awarded it in alphabetical order.

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          • Senior Whitebread
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 168

            #6
            Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

            Are you sure the teams didn't have a better conference record? Up until this point every tiebreaker I've seen has gone to the team with the best conference W/L record. The alphabetical thing could just be a coincidence

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            • Valdarez
              All Star
              • Feb 2008
              • 5075

              #7
              Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

              I know I have seen another post on this as well. Didn't search for it, but you might try the forum search to see if you can find the other thread.
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              • jyoung
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11132

                #8
                Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                Ah, good catch!

                Just simmed season 4 and had my first anomoly, so it looks like it may have been a coincidence with the team names.

                The first tiebreaker appears to be conference record.

                After that, I'm leaning towards division record since that's how it awarded it in this season 4 sim.

                It's definitely not points for/points against. Will keep simming to see if I can find out for sure what's after conference record.

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                • Bellsprout
                  Hard Times.
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 25652

                  #9
                  Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                  Shouldn't head to head be the main tiebreaker?

                  Could be wrong though, i'm not so clear on the NFL's tiebreakers rules.
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                  • jyoung
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11132

                    #10
                    Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                    You're right that it should be head to head but it definitely isn't in this game.

                    After simming four seasons I would say it's based on:

                    1. Conference record
                    2. Division record???
                    3. ???

                    I will try to work on this some more this weekend to figure it out.
                    Last edited by jyoung; 11-21-2009, 02:24 AM.

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                    • Senior Whitebread
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 168

                      #11
                      Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                      Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
                      Shouldn't head to head be the main tiebreaker?

                      Could be wrong though, i'm not so clear on the NFL's tiebreakers rules.
                      I believe head-to-head is the main tiebreaker in the NFL, but I'm not totally sure. I do know Conference win/loss is one of the top tiebreakers, though.

                      @Weeman, no problem bro

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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #12
                        Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                        Head to head is definitely not a part of the equation in Madden.

                        I've checked the records where guys in the same division are tied with each other, and so far, the winner of the head to head battle has ended up losing out on the playoff spot a number of times.

                        This would make sense since the playoff bracket you see at the end of the season doesn't have a column for head to head.

                        Here some of the stats it tracks:

                        Points for
                        Points against
                        Record vs. AFC
                        Record vs. NFC
                        Record in Divsion
                        Home record
                        Away record
                        I just had a three way tie in season 5 where all the teams had the same conference record and it ranked them according to division record, so I'm starting to think that's probably tiebreaker number two.

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                        • bigjdotcom01
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5338

                          #13
                          Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                          Plus I love how they cannot re-seed in the playoffs like the REAL NFL does. How hard is it to code in how the playoffs actually work?
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                          • jwheels9876
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 198

                            #14
                            Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                            I think the problem arises when two teams from different divisions tie for the wild card. I was Washington, finished 9-7, tied with S.F. for the last wildcard spot.

                            I finished 2 games better then them in conference record and didn't play them h2h. I also had a better division record, scored more points and gave up less points, and was also better in common opponents games.

                            So I had every conceivable tie break that the nfl uses in real life.
                            But this is Madden, why should I even expect it to mirror reality?

                            By the way S.F got in and beat the #3 seed then beat my friends #1. Seeded NYG who went 15-1 in regular season!

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                            • slickdtc
                              Grayscale
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 17125

                              #15
                              Re: Madden tiebreakers determined by alphabetical order!

                              Let's make sure we know the rules first!

                              Strength of victory (what exactly does this mean?) and strength of schedule come before any points scored/allowed tiebreakers.

                              Two Clubs

                              1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
                              2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
                              3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
                              4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
                              5. Strength of victory.
                              6. Strength of schedule.
                              7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
                              8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
                              9. Best net points in common games.
                              10. Best net points in all games.
                              11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
                              12. Coin toss

                              Three or More Clubs

                              (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

                              1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
                              2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
                              3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
                              4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
                              5. Strength of victory.
                              6. Strength of schedule.
                              7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
                              8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
                              9. Best net points in common games.
                              10. Best net points in all games.
                              11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
                              12. Coin toss
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