Madden NFL 10 2nd Title Update Details

[roadman]

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does anyone have a link to this..i find it hard to believe EA would not list all these great updates in their recent blog..

That's because in the recent blog there is a link to the former blog.

[roadman]

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*Anyway lack of stadium specific sounds is most disappointing because as mentioned it was promised.

When Ian did a FAQ video blog after the game came out, it was not promised for the patch.

He said they were "hoping" to get it in the second title update.

http://insideblog.easports.com/default.aspx?Sort=MostRecent&PageIndex=16

Go all the way to the end of the 1st FAQ video.

It's about 3/4 of the way down under the title Madden 10 FAQ.

[tooldude79]

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dude, i totally skimmed over that line when reading the blog earlier..thanks for the feedback!

[JaymeeAwesome]

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Basically between the most recent blog and the one from a month ago it listed all the fixes that will be in this title update. There may be more than what these two blogs mentioned but not less. It's a very important update and most of the madden community will enjoy all the work EA put into this....atleast I have.

[bulls23]

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When Ian did a FAQ video blog after the game came out, it was not promised for the patch.

He said they were "hoping" to get it in the second title update.

http://insideblog.easports.com/default.aspx?Sort=MostRecent&PageIndex=16

Go all the way to the end of the 1st FAQ video.

It's about 3/4 of the way down under the title Madden 10 FAQ.

Wrong, stadium sounds were promised twice:

from the gamer's guide - August 13

http://maddennfl.easports.com/news.action?newsId=gamersguide

o Specific presentation when statistical records are broken
o Re-designed ticker that also drives dynamic stats
8. Audio improvements -
o Brand new crowd audio system with new reaction logic as well as crowd swells during mid-play. Intelligent crowd sweeteners (individual people yells and sfx) along with team-specific chants.
o All new player chatter and QB cadences
o NOTE: Listen in surround sound to hear the full effect of what we've done to amp up the stadium atmosphere. The crowd surrounds you and the sounds of excited fans pop from all angles, leaving you with a very live stadium feel.

It was also in the gameshark developer Q&A:

http://www.gameshark.com/features/60...eloper-Q&A.htm


"To add to this, we have all kinds of stadium-specific chants in the game as well – so now you’ll hear the chants that make you feel like you really are in that hostile opposing environment – such as “J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!” and “E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!”

Then in the blog released after the 1st patch, they said what you mentioned.

These sounds were a big deal to me and are sorely missing from the game. They have been in every other Madden to date and add so much to the presentation.

I have been patiently waiting for them to be delivered in the 2nd patch, but I am disappointed again.

[roadman]

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Wrong, stadium sounds were promised twice:

from the gamer's guide - August 13

http://maddennfl.easports.com/news.action?newsId=gamersguide

o Specific presentation when statistical records are broken
o Re-designed ticker that also drives dynamic stats
8. Audio improvements -
o Brand new crowd audio system with new reaction logic as well as crowd swells during mid-play. Intelligent crowd sweeteners (individual people yells and sfx) along with team-specific chants.
o All new player chatter and QB cadences
o NOTE: Listen in surround sound to hear the full effect of what we've done to amp up the stadium atmosphere. The crowd surrounds you and the sounds of excited fans pop from all angles, leaving you with a very live stadium feel.

It was also in the gameshark developer Q&A:

http://www.gameshark.com/features/60...eloper-Q&A.htm


"To add to this, we have all kinds of stadium-specific chants in the game as well – so now you’ll hear the chants that make you feel like you really are in that hostile opposing environment – such as “J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!” and “E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!”

Then in the blog released after the 1st patch, they said what you mentioned.

These sounds were a big deal to me and are sorely missing from the game. They have been in every other Madden to date and add so much to the presentation.

I have been patiently waiting for them to be delivered in the 2nd patch, but I am disappointed again.

I don't know how much clearer to be on this.

This thread is discussing the 2nd title update. All I'm saying it was never promised/guaranteed regarding putting the sound effects in a title update.

I don't care outside the patch parameters. That's not what this thread is about.

[brza37]

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You're right roadman, it was not guaranteed that stadium specific sounds would be in a title patch. It was however guaranteed that they would be in the game. Seeing as this is most likely the final patch for M10 alot of people expected the lack of stadium specific sounds to be addressed.

People are allowed to discuss what made it into patch 2 as well as what did not make it into it whether it was promised for the initial game, patch 1 or patch 2 right? I mean title updates don't stand on their own they, are something that are added to a title so people should be allowed to discuss the entire title and the promises/expectations for the title when talking about the second update, right?

Now if someone were to complain about Wookie-Mode not being in the second patch then I'd agree with you and say Wookies have nothing to do with the topic and shouldn't be discussed in this thread. But we're not talking about Wookies we're talking about something that was planned but accidentally missing from the game and whether it was promised for a patch or not it is still relevant.
The moral of the story is Wookies are never not relevant.

[north dallas]

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Anyone know if they fixed the glitch where it rains in the Dallas Cowboys Stadium when the roof is closed? I don't recall it being addressed in either patch.

[dfos81]

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This update seems good to me. I like the draft info screen, simmed stats fixed, qb ridding the ball, replays, etc. Albeit these things shouldn't have been broken to begin with, but I can't complain about them fixing it.
So when do we think this update will come, this week? Next?

[roadman]

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You're right roadman, it was not guaranteed that stadium specific sounds would be in a title patch. It was however guaranteed that they would be in the game. Seeing as this is most likely the final patch for M10 alot of people expected the lack of stadium specific sounds to be addressed.

People are allowed to discuss what made it into patch 2 as well as what did not make it into it whether it was promised for the initial game, patch 1 or patch 2 right? I mean title updates don't stand on their own they, are something that are added to a title so people should be allowed to discuss the entire title and the promises/expectations for the title when talking about the second update, right?

Now if someone were to complain about Wookie-Mode not being in the second patch then I'd agree with you and say Wookies have nothing to do with the topic and shouldn't be discussed in this thread. But we're not talking about Wookies we're talking about something that was planned but accidentally missing from the game and whether it was promised for a patch or not it is still relevant.
The moral of the story is Wookies are never not relevant.

I'm only going on post #33 in this thread. Based on that post, I don't agree with what you are saying.

[Simp]

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I hope all of you complaining about being "promised" things that weren't delivered enjoy receiving less and less updates prior to release of games and patches, because this is exactly what you are encouraging here. Why would the team want to release info on upcoming products when the community will only use it against them in the future?

[swiftychampleone]

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I hope all of you complaining about being "promised" things that weren't delivered enjoy receiving less and less updates prior to release of games and patches, because this is exactly what you are encouraging here. Why would the team want to release info on upcoming products when the community will only use it against them in the future?

Hey wait a second, isn't that how products and services are sold? A person states what their product can do and the consumer buys that based upon what it was stated to do and expects that benefit? So we can misrepresent the products we sell and it's all good without worrying about legal action? If that how it works, then apparently I'm working in the wrong damn business.

Seriously, I'm HIGHLY impressed with EA's job on the gameplay fixes. It looks like the team went all out to try to fix the issues. If they improve presentation and don't let these problems occur again, we'll have the best football game since NFL 2K5/Madden 05 when Madden 11 comes.

[DonkeyJote]

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The tribute stickers are a nice touch. But they are completely unnecessary. Especially if they carry on in multiple seasons.

Also wondering if the Browns brown pants will be in the game since the Seahawks got the green jerseys that they have worn ONCE.

And about the twitchy running, I think the first patch caused this. I dont remember this being there until after the first patch.

Overall though, the stat tuning is prob the biggest draw for me. And the tuning of CPU QBs releasing the ball to avoid the sack.

And stadium sounds? in Madden? Really not needed.

I hope they added the brown pants for cleveland (ironically, a few years ago everyone wanted the brown pants to be taken out of the game).

I hope they fix the Jags pants, though I doubt it. The stripe on the road pants in Madden is more teal, when it's more white in real life. Not a huge deal. Doesn't really hurt my enjoyment of the game, however. And they are in the first year of the new unis.

[brza37]

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I hope all of you complaining about being "promised" things that weren't delivered enjoy receiving less and less updates prior to release of games and patches, because this is exactly what you are encouraging here. Why would the team want to release info on upcoming products when the community will only use it against them in the future?

Why would you want info on upcoming products that might not be correct?

Ok, I'm gonna stop cuz I don't wanna get banned. The issue wasn't even mine to begin with. I was just providing the statements that were asked for by the mod that someone else didn't provide.

I liked the interaction with the devs and find it a shame how some people berated them on the boards too. I don't understand why anyone has to get upset about it and why there can be no middle ground instead of having to be either pro or anti. What happened to constructive criticism? Thats what the interaction was all about.
Bottom line is its just a game and although not perfect it is still a very good one imo.
I will no longer discuss issues in this thread that are not specifically mentioned in this blog:

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/11/30/madden-nfl-10-2nd-title-update-details.aspx

[Simp]

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Hey wait a second, isn't that how products and services are sold? A person states what their product can do and the consumer buys that based upon what it was stated to do and expects that benefit? So we can misrepresent the products we sell and it's all good without worrying about legal action? If that how it works, then apparently I'm working in the wrong damn business.

You are correct. I just get a little tired of reading people complaining about feature lists and updates not being released early enough, and then when the devs do release the feature lists and something ends up missing from the final version, people jump all over them.

We need to understand that the earlier the feature lists are released, the more likely that it won't be 100% representative of what ends up in the final product. You can't have it both ways. There are too many of us who have our expectations way out in left field.

For the record, I'm also impressed by what the team has been able to do this year with the game, and the subsequent updates.