NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

[Court_vision]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

Obviously fixing the post game is not as simple as we think. Thanks to everybody for working hard to try to make this work. Very dissapointing EA

It is that simple man...that's the frustrating thing for us as consumers.

To do so though costs $$. It requires time...man hours...resources...

NBA 2K10 had terrible interior D out of the box...and people were genuinely angry. A lot of other issues also.

People power won out and they came back with a killer patch that even added new defensive animations and AI defenseive code and fixed most issues. Why did they do it? Because their game sells close to 500 000 copies on each major console and they needed to keep the masses pleased. The company could justify the expense.

Unfortunately, NCAA hardly sells...so they are essentially saying "you 20 000 odd guys who bought it are not worth enough financially for us to spend $$$ fixing our product". That's the bottom line.

It really is that simple. Companies work out whether the time and money invested will be worth the reward they get. No one really cares about "doing the right thing".

They come on here now and say "hey, maybe we'll fix it in the future"........which basically means "look, if somehow this thing sells like crazy over christmas and we've got a bigger market, hell yeah we will look after them".

As it stands now though, small market = no support.

If FIFA had major issues....it would be fixed. Quickly.

Sony did the same thing with NBA 09. They didn't even realease a single roster update if I recall correctly.

[Vechi8]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

It is that simple man...that's the frustrating thing for us as consumers.

To do so though costs $$. It requires time...man hours...resources...

NBA 2K10 had terrible interior D out of the box...and people were genuinely angry. A lot of other issues also.

People power won out and they came back with a killer patch that even added new defensive animations and AI defenseive code and fixed most issues. Why did they do it? Because their game sells close to 500 000 copies on each major console and they needed to keep the masses pleased. The company could justify the expense.

Unfortunately, NCAA hardly sells...so they are essentially saying "you 20 000 odd guys who bought it are not worth enough financially for us to spend $$$ fixing our product". That's the bottom line.

It really is that simple. Companies work out whether the time and money invested will be worth the reward they get. No one really cares about "doing the right thing".

They come on here now and say "hey, maybe we'll fix it in the future"........which basically means "look, if somehow this thing sells like crazy over christmas and we've got a bigger market, hell yeah we will look after them".

As it stands now though, small market = no support.

If FIFA had major issues....it would be fixed. Quickly.

Sony did the same thing with NBA 09. They didn't even realease a single roster update if I recall correctly.

I agree with all of your points. We all know that EA is suffering with big losses as a corp and down sizing certainly around the corner, so man power probably will become thin. Madden is their baby and will continue to get the attention.

My point on the post game is that live and ncaa suffer with it, and you are dead on with 2k. I continue to work the game and it is night and day with their update.

[matt2053]

Re: It's kinda official: No Patch

Guys,

Although there are no plans as of now for an update that doesn't mean that the development team won't consider working on one.

As soon as there are any new developments about this I will be sure to inform all of you.

The game has programming errors that cause it to crash, very often, for a large number of customers. Customers who paid SIXTY DOLLARS for something that doesn't work.

To hear that EA has not even begun working on fixing this game is very disheartening.

[travis72]

Re: It's kinda official: No Patch

This is what I don't understand. I don't get why they would just give up on this game and this series when they're close to having something special.

The ESPN/CBS integration was groudbreaking in sports gaming and it looks like it's all down the ****ter now.

I wonder, if 2K wasn't ready to come out next year with College Hoops 2K11 assuming they jump back in and EA jumps out, if they would at all give 2K8 an update to hold the College ball fans over for the year? I doubt it but you never know.

I wonder if 2k has been planning for a new version of CHoops. Honestly I hate 2k10 was not going to buy it but broke down and did, had it for 2 days and traded it for NCAA. With the way offenses move on both live and NCAA it puts 2k to shame. I really hope they keep moving forward with this game as it is so improved from previous years. They also owe it to a lot of loyal people to put out a patch and fix some minor issues. I am completely happy with this game but really feel for the people who can not enjoy this game because of freezing.

[DJ]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

This is a genuine issue.

Producers came on here for over a month to essentially promote the game. They came here to sell it and to convince people to spend their $$.

To then dissapear and to seemingly abandon the game = extremely poor.

I am sorry for you guys who have freezing issues. You've essentially been done over for your $$.

EA did a lot to get people back on board with their products...it's kind of stunning the way they've ruined all that goodwill post the 2010 game releases.

The fellas who came here seemed legit...so I guess it's senior management directing them to move on and not support the products. No one should be angry at the producers as I doubt they are happy about all this. Same with LIVE, where members of that production team were removed from the product post release. This is the reality of big business...those fellas likely had little say in anything.

Extremely poor though. I was going to get this eventually if there was a patch that fixed a few things.

Definitely won't be getting it now.............

QFT.

I certainly appreciate the fact that we have interaction with game developers but man, it sure seems like it's more marketing than anything else. Kind of like the hype man at a rap concert, only the main act never takes the stage.

I understand these decisions are made by higher-ups, but it is still disappointing and going forward, I have to question if I'll be as vocal about issues I see in games, knowing there's a chance that once the game drops, the comments will fall on deaf ears.

When those preview videos for NCAA Basketball dropped and we learned of the dual presentation, everyone was going nuts. It was something truly revolutionary and had us all hoping for the best.

I don't think any of us expected the game to ship without bugs (what games do these days?) but at least patches are released that help solve most of the glaring issues. It's a shame that there will likely be no patch b/c it sounds like this game is a couple of small steps away from being truly great.

I was 100% convinced I was going to get this game but now, after hearing about the freezing issues, lack of CPU 3-pt. attempts and the low post shooting issues, I will either be passing on the game or picking it up at a very discounted price. I'm glad I still have a copy of 2k8 to keep me busy.

[mrclutch]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

Man this kinda stinks. I have really been wanting to pick up the game but everything I read here makes me think I should just take a pass. I just hate not having a good college hoops game this time of year.

[travis72]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

Man this kinda stinks. I have really been wanting to pick up the game but everything I read here makes me think I should just take a pass. I just hate not having a good college hoops game this time of year.

This game is worth getting IMO. Not all have had freeze issues and I know that has to be a concern of yours. I for 1 have not ever had this much fun with a game and that includes 2k8 which I loved dearly. Maybe you might want to try renting it to see before you spend the money to buy it.

[acarrero]

This is not a bad game at all. I haven't had it crash once and don't see any obvious areas that need patching. Not saying it's acceptable that EA abandoned it like this post suggests, but maybe there isn't a patch because it's not needed right now? They have the "Dynamic Updates" which already updated the franchise mode (by including real schedules - a feature unavailable out of the box), and tweaked player and team ratings. Who works on these dynamic updates? And can they serve as patches?

[matt2053]

How can you say it doesn't need a patch when there are ten pages of people whose games crash on them, and that's just out of the small sample size we have here?

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

What a shame.

Game is close to being a very fun game with a few tweaks. The mid-major issue kills it for me since I know I have to win my conference tournament to get in, even if I schedule Duke, UNC, MSU, Pitt, UConn, etc and beat them all then lose in my conference title game, I'm not getting in.

That was really the only patch I needed to really enjoy this game.

Bigger shame is that this game is probably dead, there's a great foundation here to grow on.

[Jasong7777]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

Unfortunately, NCAA hardly sells...so they are essentially saying "you 20 000 odd guys who bought it are not worth enough financially for us to spend $$$ fixing our product". That's the bottom line.

If that's the case then they should stop making the game. I hope they don't, but if they really feel that way then it's a damn shame. But then again this is EA were talking about.

[michigan21]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

I was holding out for a patch. I'm trading it in towards something else. First EA bball game I bought in 9 yrs, and a very good one imo, but I cant keep playing it with no patch. Damn.

[sg636279]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

IMO, this is a pathetic joke on the part of EA. Since PS3 has come out the games have gotten cheaper, yet more expensive.

Remember the college baseball series? They put it out there with 10 stadiums, completely fake schedules that did not even resemble how college baseball played, and a whopping 110 or so on 300 plus division one programs. Next year they did not promote the game and did not tell of the changes and we got 120 teams and 14 stadiums. Joke.

Then NCAA football comes out for PS3, and there are no D1-AA teams. Yes most of us wont play with them, but they are an important aspect in scheduling to make the game realistic. No one wants to play the FCS West. It also effects rankings and BCS when no D1-AA teams are even in the game, much less does not allow us to us real schedules.

Then this excuse of a basketball game. Unless you perform surgery on your sliders, you will have major issues. Not passing out of the post, lack of opponent 3', lack of computer fouls, the funny looking stumble and loss of the ball when your big men try to move inside. Not to mention horribly inaccurate rosters with players listed as the wrong class and schedules that are not correct.

Really EA? How hard would it have been to create the extra 15 teams. Would it really be a daunting task to create a school like Bryant, give them one of your 5 generic gyms and make a half attempt at a roster?

The fact that people payed $60 for this game and it freezes is a joke if EA will not patch the game. You drive your prices up every year and we get less for it. I would rather pay EA $70 or $80 for a complete playable game. Atleast then I would feel ripped off but have a game I can play and enjoy.

[countryboy]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

for those who were looking for a patch to fix the post play, ianlast may have found a work around involving editing player ratings.

Not ideal, but its better than nothing.

For anyone who's wondering, I've figured out how to make the CPU stop shooting right away once in the post. It's tied in to the 'Inside Scoring' rating. By turning this all the way down to 10 for every player, I've noticed 3 things in particular:

1) It seems to have little to no effect on the likelihood of an inside shot going in (I'm guessing this is determined primarily by the Field Goal rating, as well as the sliders).

2) The instant turnaround jumpers in the post are gone. The CPU will now back down for 3 or 4 seconds before shooting a jump hook or some other back-to-the-basket move.

3) For the first time ever, I've actually seen the CPU (drum roll please) kick the ball back out from the post. In my test game between Illinois (me) and Iowa, I counted 5 times where the CPU opted to kick the ball back out, even once off an offensive rebound. There were also another 5 instances where the CPU player dribbled out of the post. Granted that's not alot (I play 20 min halves), but still a major improvement.

I realize this would be a royal pain in the butt to do, and throws ratings completely out of whack. But it is a solution for those who get sick of the CPU constantly shooting in the post.

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Patch, Most Likely Won't Happen (Pasta Padre)

Good idea, but there are what, 3500 players in the game? That will take a long time.