4-2-5 and 3-2-6

[Mike3207]

Anyone know anything about these defensive playbooks? The 4-2-5 is listed as a Very Strong playbook, and seems to have 4 down linemen, 2 middle linebackers, no outside linebackers, and 5 in the secondary. Not sure if you have to convert the OLBs to Middle linebackers, or simply release them.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

You have one OLB, one MLB, two SS, one FS, and two CB. It looks a little like a 4-4 when both SS are down.

[Mike3207]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

You have one OLB, one MLB, two SS, one FS, and two CB. It looks a little like a 4-4 when both SS are down.

Ok, thanks. So I assume you just rotate the LOLB and ROLB if changing from a 4-3, or should you eliminate or convert to MLB one of the outside linebackers?

[kcarr]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

These are defenses based off of getting more speed onto the field allowing you to better defend the pass. You really have to depend on your safeties to help out against the run and often move them up into the box to help against the run.

[samboz19]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

These are defenses based off of getting more speed onto the field allowing you to better defend the pass. You really have to depend on your safeties to help out against the run and often move them up into the box to help against the run.

The 4-2-5 is my favorite defense. This defense is the most balanced defense you can use. You can go with a 4 man rush with 2 blitzers and have 5 DB's in coverage...it really helps limit an offense's options.

Cheers!

[Sanchez_Mareno]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

4-2-5 is very versatile. Good with blitzing safeties

[Mike3207]

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I was working on trying to combine the 4-2-5, 3-3-5, and 3-2-6 into one defense; I had only limited success. You can add different formations by seeing what plays are in each formation, seeing what the play type it's under is, and then adding the play. The problem I ran into was when there would be multiple cover 2 plays, and I ended up adding some plays from formations I didn't want.

In the end, I ended up with a base 3-2-6 formation, a fair amount of 3-3-5 plays, and a handful of 3-2-6 plays. I guess it will have to do.

EDIT** I finally figured it out. Once I have the formation, I can add or subtract plays within that formation. I wasn't able to combine the Colts playbook and Martz's playbook though, so there are limitations to combining playbooks.

[MeSlayer]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

The 4-2-5 is my favorite defense. This defense is the most balanced defense you can use. You can go with a 4 man rush with 2 blitzers and have 5 DB's in coverage...it really helps limit an offense's options.

Cheers!

I just started a new franchise with the 425, what kind of DB's do you set your philosophies to? I've been waffling between smart/productive and hard hitting SS, Centerfield FS and waffling between Press/run stopper and Balanced CB

I just can't make up my mind which would be the best route

[kcarr]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

personally I would want one safety in the centerfielder mold just because that makes me think playmaker, decent zone coverage with solid enough hands. I would want one safety who could be good all around, recognize plays well enough to move up against the run and also be able to drop back in coverage somewhere between balanced and smart/productive. I would then want my other safety to be a run stopping safety. While my balanced/smart/productive guy will be decent in run support this guy will need to be a true beast here being basically as close to a coverage LB as he is to a safety. A guy who can move up into the box and hold his own but has enough coverage skills and speed to play with a slot receiver when necesary.

As far as the corners, I would base this more on who I am facing. If I have to face a bunch of tough rushing teams the run support becomes valuable but in a game like this where passing is so key the balanced is probably a better option otherwise.

[Jahgee1124]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

Spoiler

There's an awesome play in 4-2-5 (Middle Blitz), unless ur playin the colts, every pass play is a sack

[Pigtoe]

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Yeah it's so cheap but against the colts if u run both SSs blitz it works good against the colts

[Jonesy2042]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

What r the position philosophy for all the defensive players in the 4-2-5

[whoRweNATION]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

4-2-5+ 3-2-6+ 3-3-5= pwn

You need very good safeties though and a GREAT pass rushing defensive line unless you wanna just sit back in zone coverage. Fast CBs that can come off the edge are important too.

[Mike3207]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

What r the position philosophy for all the defensive players in the 4-2-5

DE-Undersized Speed Rusher
DT-Run Stopper
OLB-Blitzer
MLB-Blitzer
Secondary-Man Coverage

[ebongreen]

Re: 4-2-5 and 3-2-6

In my current career, the 4-2-5 coach has ended up on the 'Fins. I played them tonight in an exhibition game, and remembered when the Bears were running that scheme in an earlier career.

As a scheme, it has its merits - and its flaws. It can be difficult to run against, but certain pitch plays and outside handoffs work pretty well. Passing is pretty easy from a standard shotgun set, or even a 4WR shotgun formation. As long as you have a 'back for blitz pickup and your receivers are better than their cover men, you're good to go.