Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

[nonnel]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Here's the Issue. someone like Johnathan Stewart AKA Panthers number 2 HB would end the season with 100 carries for 100 yards. Does that sound right? At All? In your eyes i suppose it does.

We have to choose between those two options? Either crazy high or crazy low? I think the guy was just asking for
something actually accurate and normal.

[TheBest]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

I don't understand what everyone is whining about....you can't have it both ways....as some one who knows how to write code....there is no in between...its 0 or 1...off or on.....hot or cold. For the simmed stats people are upset about, the CPU doesn't spread the ball around, sprinkle in pass and run etc...they sim what the teams do in real games. So if the Vikings feed the ball to AP 30 times a game on average...then that's what they program for...give or take a few carries...

And to be honest, if teams didn't have to worry about progressive fatigue over a season(which isn't apart of the game), they would have plenty of 2000 yard rushers....

And furthermore...if u take a look at the stats from the 2008 season, you will see that about 20 guys finished around 1k give or take 50-100 yrds....with injuries, not running up the score, etc...so thats about right..

Everyone should stop complaining so much......just my opinion....

Understandable....but this could've been avoided if people didn't whine about the BACKUP RB's YPC.

[TheBest]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

First Year Simmed:

Defense:

17 players over 100 tackles highest was 124 - last year 08 highest was 154 and there was 30 players over 100 tackes

4 players over 20 sacks with the leader J.Allen @24 - last year there was only 1 player over 20 sacks

46 players with 10+ sacks - last year 08 there were 12 in the NFL

INTs look good

Forced Fumbles look good

OFFENSE

O-line - pancake leader was 17

O-line - most sacks allowed was 23 - two over 20

receiving catches - (4) 100 reception receivers all WR high of 114 - NFL 08 was 3 over 100 high of 115

Receiving yards - 16 receivers over 1k yards - NFL 08 had 22

Receiving TD's - high of 17 with 11 of 10+ tds - NFL 08 high was 12 with only 5 with 10+ td's

Rushing yards - (1) 2k plus yard runner - NFL 08 none

Rushing yards - (10) 1.5k plus yard runner - NFL 08 only 3

Rushing yard - (25) 1k plus yards - NFL 08 only 16

Rushing td's - (13) with 10+ high of 17 - NFL 08 8 with 10+ high of 18

Passing yards - (6) 4k+ passers - NFL 6

Passing TDs - (8) over 30 tds high of 36 - NFL 08 (3) over 30 tds with a high of 34

INJURIES

hardly any offensive skilled position - QBs, HBs, WRs, TEs
LOTS of lineman injured - 11 out for the season - TO THE POINT THERE IS NO CENTERS IN FREE AGENCY ONE RIGHT GUARD AND THREE LEFT GUARDS
Does that sound familiar?
On defense there was 15 players out for the season but few out for short periods of time.

Excellent Breakdown.

[tasice]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Understandable....but this could've been avoided if people didn't whine about the BACKUP RB's YPC.

they whined for the wrong thing....its not the YPC they should have been concerned with...its the rushing ATTEMPTS....the NFL now is more of a two back league...with the exception of a few guys...most of the rushing load is split between 2 guys...about 65/35....

Look at the stats from 2008:

Brandon Jacobs/Derrick Ward carries split: 219/182
DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart carries split: 273/184
Chris Johnson/LenDale White carries split: 251/200

and the list goes on and on....

I mean be serious....how the heck are they supposed to write code to make BACKUPS YPC better...you would have to implement an entire new hidden attribute or something...that would take forever to get implemented...

The bottom line is, I'm not saying everyone is this way, but most people have no idea....absolutely no clue how difficult it is...to get what they are asking for

[LionsFanNJ]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Ok i'm really either going to have to up the difficulty, or maybe its because i was running plays to test the pursuits and stuff. But i broke 4 records this last game.lol

Passing yards and TD's Receiving yards and receiving TD's in a game. Felt good because it was the stupid Bears though. If anything i think the coverage of the flats might have made passing easier somehow, again one game is not an indicator.

just going to random vs random game next.

[Bumble14]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

How's the wildcat working now? I have heard from some that the extra step that was added to the rb animation is making running the formation difficult. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks.

[canes21]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but NFL 2k5 had sim stats for a season down great. I simmed a season and had 3-4 passers over 30 TDs per season, around 3-4 guys over 1,500 yards rushing, and the TD's rushing were almost exact. The only thing wrong was punts as there was one team over 100 in real life while half the league has over 100, but i can live with that.

Anyways has anyone tried controlling all 32 teams and changing coaching sliders?

[tarantism]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

First Year Simmed:

Defense:

17 players over 100 tackles highest was 124 - last year 08 highest was 154 and there was 30 players over 100 tackes

4 players over 20 sacks with the leader J.Allen @24 - last year there was only 1 player over 20 sacks

46 players with 10+ sacks - last year 08 there were 12 in the NFL

INTs look good

Forced Fumbles look good

OFFENSE

O-line - pancake leader was 17

O-line - most sacks allowed was 23 - two over 20

receiving catches - (4) 100 reception receivers all WR high of 114 - NFL 08 was 3 over 100 high of 115

Receiving yards - 16 receivers over 1k yards - NFL 08 had 22

Receiving TD's - high of 17 with 11 of 10+ tds - NFL 08 high was 12 with only 5 with 10+ td's

Rushing yards - (1) 2k plus yard runner - NFL 08 none

Rushing yards - (10) 1.5k plus yard runner - NFL 08 only 3

Rushing yard - (25) 1k plus yards - NFL 08 only 16

Rushing td's - (13) with 10+ high of 17 - NFL 08 8 with 10+ high of 18

Passing yards - (6) 4k+ passers - NFL 6

Passing TDs - (8) over 30 tds high of 36 - NFL 08 (3) over 30 tds with a high of 34

INJURIES

hardly any offensive skilled position - QBs, HBs, WRs, TEs
LOTS of lineman injured - 11 out for the season - TO THE POINT THERE IS NO CENTERS IN FREE AGENCY ONE RIGHT GUARD AND THREE LEFT GUARDS
Does that sound familiar?
On defense there was 15 players out for the season but few out for short periods of time.

Thank you for this breakdown. Outstanding.

Honestly it seems like it needs to be give and take. I think that if people want to see less 2000 yard rushers they are going to have to tune the HB1/HB2 carry ratio. There still might be crazy YPC numbers, but the totals will still look ok I bet. Has anybody tried this? I am on 360, otherwise I would just do it myself.

[stux]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Second Year Simmed:

Defense:

Tackles - (22) players over 100 tackles highest was 133 - NFL 08 highest was 154 and there was (30) players over 100 tackes

Sacks - (2) players over 20 sacks with the leader @21 - NFL 08 there was only (1) player over 20 sacks

Sacks - (46) (again) players with 10+ sacks - NFL 08 there were (12)

INTs look good

Forced Fumbles look good

OFFENSE

O-line - pancake leader was 20

O-line - most sacks allowed was 24 - 3 over 20

Receiving catches - (6) 100 reception receivers all WR high of 121 - NFL 08 was (3) over 100 high of 115

Receiving yards - (18) receivers over 1k yards - NFL 08 had (22)

Receiving TD's - high of 18 with (16) of 10+ tds - NFL 08 high was 12 with only (5) with 10+ td's

Rushing yards - (2) 2k plus yard runner AP 2,320 - NFL 08 none

Rushing yards - (14) 1.5k plus yard runner - NFL 08 only (3)

Rushing yard - (28) 1k plus yards - NFL 08 only (16)

Rushing average - (13) players with 6+ yards per carry (100+ att) - NFL 08 Highest ypc was 5.6 Derrick Ward (over 100 attempts)

Rushing td's - (18) with 10+ high of 20 - NFL 08 (8) with 10+ high of 18

Passing yards - (6) (again) 4k+ passers - NFL (6)

Passing TDs - (7) over 30 tds high of 42 - NFL 08 (3) over 30 tds with a high of 34

INJURIES

QBs 4 total 2 for the season
HBs 4 total 0 for the season
FBs second year with none
WRs 11 total 7 for the season
TE 1 total 1 for the season
O-line - WAY to many - 26 for the season
D-line 7 total 4 for the season 1 career ending
LB's 21 total 10 for the season
CBs 5 total 1 for the season
Safeties 3 total 3 for the season
Kickers none

[BlueNGold]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Has progression turned out differently due to some of the inflated stats?

[dbkaeoz33]

GAMEPLAY

FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED AND NOT ABOUT HOW MANY RBs GET OVER 2K!

Wow I must say.. I'd much rather be able to play online BEFORE the patch came out.

#1. FLATS ARE FIXED... Only by a cover 2 CB.. If you run a Cover 3 and your LB has flat duties.. the LB wont get there fast enough for a "Cheese" Play and quickly throw to your RB.. (All this is on all-madden).

#2. Focused so much on the cover 2 flats that EVERYTHING ELSE IS BROKEN... In cover 2 the safeties back pedal 25-35 yards deep!!! FOR NO REASON. It's an easy completion to a streak on the outsides in the hole.. Now I know cover 2 has a hole in the defense just like every coverage.. BUT WOW.. the safeties back pedal so far that the hole becomes HUGE!

#3. Man align still doesn't exist. And funny, but MAN COVERAGE is absolutely HORRIBLE. The defenders get juked without the WRs even attempting a fake in there routes..


Bad patch..

[Speedy]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Thanks for posting the sim stats but I don't like three things:

1) Way too many guys getting even 1,500 yrds up to 2,000 yds.
2) Sack totals are too much - a player getting 20 sacks should be an absolute rarity.
3) Receiving TDs are a bit too high as well.

I'd like to see more people's impressions regarding actual gameplay (not new animations) and what the differences now are between rushing the QB, CPU runs, OL blocking, etc. but my major concern is the sim stats.

I play a lot of games and seasons in my offline franchise and the outlandish numbers would seriously dampen it...I'm on the fence whether I'll download it.

[tasice]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

Second Year Simmed:

Defense:

Tackles - (22) players over 100 tackles highest was 133 - NFL 08 highest was 154 and there was (30) players over 100 tackes

Sacks - (2) players over 20 sacks with the leader @21 - NFL 08 there was only (1) player over 20 sacks

Sacks - (46) (again) players with 10+ sacks - NFL 08 there were (12)

INTs look good

Forced Fumbles look good

OFFENSE

O-line - pancake leader was 20

O-line - most sacks allowed was 24 - 3 over 20

Receiving catches - (6) 100 reception receivers all WR high of 121 - NFL 08 was (3) over 100 high of 115

Receiving yards - (18) receivers over 1k yards - NFL 08 had (22)

Receiving TD's - high of 18 with (16) of 10+ tds - NFL 08 high was 12 with only (5) with 10+ td's

Rushing yards - (2) 2k plus yard runner AP 2,320 - NFL 08 none

Rushing yards - (14) 1.5k plus yard runner - NFL 08 only (3)

Rushing yard - (28) 1k plus yards - NFL 08 only (16)

Rushing td's - (18) with 10+ high of 20 - NFL 08 (8) with 10+ high of 18

Passing yards - (6) (again) 4k+ passers - NFL (6)

Passing TDs - (7) over 30 tds high of 42 - NFL 08 (3) over 30 tds with a high of 34

INJURIES

QBs 4 total 2 for the season
HBs 4 total 0 for the season
FBs second year with none
WRs 11 total 7 for the season
TE 1 total 1 for the season
O-line - WAY to many - 26 for the season
D-line 7 total 4 for the season 1 career ending
LB's 21 total 10 for the season
CBs 5 total 1 for the season
Safeties 3 total 3 for the season
Kickers none

Thanks for these posts...i think everyone can see that although there is something to look at about the 2000 yard rushers...."The sky is not falling" (to quote chicken little)

And just so everyone knows, I have reports that the linebackers are hauling a** to the flats now...lol...but cover 2 is gonna take a hit...and to be honest that's kinda like real life. A good QB and WR can eat up cover 2 if they don't get pressure...

[seriousluboy83]

Re: GAMEPLAY

FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED AND NOT ABOUT HOW MANY RBs GET OVER 2K!

Wow I must say.. I'd much rather be able to play online BEFORE the patch came out.

#1. FLATS ARE FIXED... Only by a cover 2 CB.. If you run a Cover 3 and your LB has flat duties.. the LB wont get there fast enough for a "Cheese" Play and quickly throw to your RB.. (All this is on all-madden).

#2. Focused so much on the cover 2 flats that EVERYTHING ELSE IS BROKEN... In cover 2 the safeties back pedal 25-35 yards deep!!! FOR NO REASON. It's an easy completion to a streak on the outsides in the hole.. Now I know cover 2 has a hole in the defense just like every coverage.. BUT WOW.. the safeties back pedal so far that the hole becomes HUGE!

#3. Man align still doesn't exist. And funny, but MAN COVERAGE is absolutely HORRIBLE. The defenders get juked without the WRs even attempting a fake in there routes..


Bad patch..

How many times have you played since you downloaded the patch...

[Glorious Arc]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

For those who are simming seasons to check for accurate stats, can you please list if you are doing a fantasy draft or not?

I ask this because I find that the talent becomes much more balanced in the league and had a slight difference on production for players pre patch and I am curious if it still has any effect.