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  • rckabillyRaider
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 4382

    #1

    Defender close out speed

    If there's anything that bothers me about this game, its the speed in which defenders close out and contest a seemingly wide open jump shot. Not a game killer at all for me but it does get annoying sometimes when a cpu defender makes a mad dash from half way across the court and gets his whole body on your wide open guy spotting up for a 3 in the corner.

    What slider if any would help that out? I love my slider set I currently use and get very realistic stats. I haven't made changes to my sliders in weeks but I wouldn't mind being able to fix the fast, unrealistic close out speed.
  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #2
    Re: Defender close out speed

    c/s, this has always been one of my biggest complaints with 2K games since the beginning. It's also what really limits the mid-range game, esp for big men.

    I think 2K10 is slightly better than previous versions because the court-to-player size ratio is improved but the speed is still too fast.
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    • edaddy
      MVP
      • Jun 2004
      • 2848

      #3
      Re: Defender close out speed

      Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
      If there's anything that bothers me about this game, its the speed in which defenders close out and contest a seemingly wide open jump shot. Not a game killer at all for me but it does get annoying sometimes when a cpu defender makes a mad dash from half way across the court and gets his whole body on your wide open guy spotting up for a 3 in the corner.

      What slider if any would help that out? I love my slider set I currently use and get very realistic stats. I haven't made changes to my sliders in weeks but I wouldn't mind being able to fix the fast, unrealistic close out speed.

      I have lowered my cpu defensive awareness and it has helped..and it also depends on what skill level you ae playing on..Pro is just right when it comes to close out speed anything above is unrealistic to me...
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      • rckabillyRaider
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 4382

        #4
        Re: Defender close out speed

        ^i play on all star and have cpu def awr to 55. I feel that anything less and it becomes too easy for me. Maybe I'll experiment with that though. I'll probably lower my def awr as well.

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #5
          Re: Defender close out speed

          This is the...I can't comment on vs CPU. But I don't have the problem vs Human opponent. rocboyz_101 plays the CPU a lot he should and probably knows.
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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #6
            Re: Defender close out speed

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            This is the...I can't comment on vs CPU. But I don't have the problem vs Human opponent. rocboyz_101 plays the CPU a lot he should and probably knows.
            That is the funny thing, it does seem to disappear vs the human and it's always been that way on this gen of consoles.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #7
              Re: Defender close out speed

              CPU logic needs more tweaking. I don't see stuff like this changing for 5-10 years.
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              • rckabillyRaider
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 4382

                #8
                Re: Defender close out speed

                Originally posted by ehh
                That is the funny thing, it does seem to disappear vs the human and it's always been that way on this gen of consoles.
                I guess it's 2k's way of giving an edge to the CPU and making the game a bit harder for the human player. As it has been stated many times and with all kinds of games, its seems that the developers dont make the cpu AI more smarter on higher difficulty levels....... they just give the CPU some more cheats/boosts to make it harder.

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                • spankdatazz22
                  All Star
                  • May 2003
                  • 6219

                  #9
                  Re: Defender close out speed

                  Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                  As it has been stated many times and with all kinds of games, its seems that the developers dont make the cpu AI more smarter on higher difficulty levels....... they just give the CPU some more cheats/boosts to make it harder.
                  I'd agree but I always go back to a great quote Flawless had awhile back. It goes (I'm paraphrasing) "great cpu AI is how good a job a developer does making you think the cpu doesn't know what you're doing". None of these guys are rocket scientists; even rocket scientists haven't figured out true artificial intelligence. In a shooting game the cpu has to be programmed to miss enough to make you think it doesn't know exactly where you are. I'd guess that's why when playing a shooting game on some level called "Insane", the minute anyone exposes any part of themselves the cpu picks them off. I think it's pretty cool what 2K10 has done with player tendencies; many times if you watch a cpu/hum game it's not always easy to tell that you're playing a cpu opponent - looks surprisingly lifelike at times. But I think it's like any other game where there's a thin line between dumbing down the AI too much/not enough
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                  • Rawdeal28
                    Swiitch U? lol
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 7407

                    #10
                    Re: Defender close out speed

                    lowering the quickness slider helps with this too. i have the cpu slider on 10 and may lower it even more. this also helps the fastbreak catch-up the cpu does as well.

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                    • Teddy_Long
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2458

                      #11
                      Re: Defender close out speed

                      what level does everyone have help d on?

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                      • rckabillyRaider
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4382

                        #12
                        Re: Defender close out speed

                        Originally posted by Rawdeal28
                        lowering the quickness slider helps with this too. i have the cpu slider on 10 and may lower it even more. this also helps the fastbreak catch-up the cpu does as well.

                        im playing on SUPERSTAR
                        I have my quickness and cpu quickness at 30 and with game speed at 48. I found when I was first tweaking sliders that anything lower than this combination gave my game a 30fps feel to it. I might mess with it again though.

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                        • Guggy107
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 777

                          #13
                          Re: Defender close out speed

                          playing on pro definitely goes the furthest in improving this. i also found that lowering the cpus contest shots slider a little bit helps. not sure if this is really true though. switch to pro, the game plays way more realistic.

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                          • clivo1050
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 715

                            #14
                            Re: Defender close out speed

                            2k and live both have problems with this. You'll go to take a wide open shot and as you go to release it, someone is right in your face.

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                            • Serra11
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1127

                              #15
                              Re: Defender close out speed

                              Originally posted by clivo1050
                              2k and live both have problems with this. You'll go to take a wide open shot and as you go to release it, someone is right in your face.
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