Backbreaker Fact Sheet and Screenshots

[bigjake62505]

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Hey I am trying to get my post count up. You see we joined around the same time but you have around 4,000 more post than me.

[Phobia]

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You, me and one other viewing right now. No worries my friend We have the forum to our selvs. I thought you were going to post your references and experences?

Show my post where I said I was going to do that?

Show where I said i knew more than you?

I stated you had no clue what you were talking about and can't make the claims you were. You sensitive side could not handle that. Then you continue with the stomp my feet for attention thing going on.

[bigjake62505]

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Hey wait a minute if you call someone ignorant, and that they do not know what they are talking about, you do not have to know anything about it either?

[bigjake62505]

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Ok well mr. phobia I have to go to an appointment @ 2:30. I tell you what, I will check back later so we can continue our rather interesting conversation.

[42]

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Guys, cut it out.

Back on topic, thanks.

[Phobia]

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Guys, cut it out.

Back on topic, thanks.

Thank the good lord Brett has arrived lol.

[Jackdog]

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Ok well mr. phobia I have to go to an appointment @ 2:30. I tell you what, I will check back later so we can continue our rather interesting conversation.

If it's OT,take it to PM or you will get an infraction.

[MrNFL_FanIQ]

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You gameplay guys need to understand you need a franchise mode to truly enjoy the game.

As long as the game as online play. I don't need franchise mode period. I play 90% of my games online only. I watch all sports for the most part and dig reading about stats. I also want my games to have realistic stats. I don't need a franchise mode to enjoy my game though. Because I am going to spend 90% of my time with it online anyway.

Madden 10 - Only game I play a franchise with but still VERY seldom

NBA Live 10 - Play it only online

Fight Night Rd 4 - Play it only online

All Pro Football - Play it only online (every night almost)

NHL 10 - Play it only online

Fifa 09 - Play it only online

Now as you can see I don't need a franchise mode. As long as the game has strong gameplay and balanced online play. It will get TONS and TONS of play time. Would be spinning in my xbox for many years. Just like All Pro Football has.

I understand not everyone plays only online. But I think OS makes you think more people care about franchise than the average population does. I have a bunch of friends that play video games. None of which play franchise mode. Everyone just plays online when they get time to sit down and play xbox.

I think the average gamer is going to spend more time with their games in a ONLINE world than they will in franchise mode. I think the developers and their stats trackers on this have noticed this trend and is the reason so many have stated that online play is the future.

Decent read about what I am kinda talking about.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.06/gaming.html

Well, we are just on the opposite ends of the spectrum. I realize I am probably in the major minority, personally I can't stand online play for the normal stated reasons. I just hope that my little niche doesn't get completely ignored like it has seemingly been for a while.

But like I said, to each their own. You enjoy playing online, I enjoy franchise. If franchise is not good, I'm not buying (Unless it is saved by great "Road to the Show" type mode). That's my personal prerogative.

[jyoung]

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Football games should be about playing another person in the chess match that is play calling. Building a team to beat teams the cpu has build isnt really much fun or difficult for me. Those should be saved for text based sims or head coach.

+1

[bigjake62505]

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The few time I have played online I have had mixed results. Once in a blue moon I can find someone that plays realistic. Any hopes of finding some people who play sim is dashed when my two kids come in the room and starts playing godzilla on my TV (1yr, and 2yr old) so it is tough for some especially dads like me LOL

[Pacman83]

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I dont get why all you are so worried, like it is as if they ignored gameplay for the last 3-5 years to work on franchise....its already been said that its multiple seasons and it SO bare that they cant even really call it a franchise mode...So really where do you guys think the focus has been? Getting the gameplay right...and making sure we have a game thats more than playable. I myself have faith in the gameplay, and truly hope that the franchise itself is at least playable, thats all most franchise folks really want, i mean i doubt anyone is dumb enough think that the mode will be in depth, we just want it to be playable.


If it feels like football...you know fluid and realistic gameplay (why i cant play Madden more than a few), if i can customize anything, and if i can play more than a season with a draft (why i cant play APF more than a few)...then i am sold.

[Pacman83]

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Yea, everyone doesnt play online....thats what most ya'll are forgetting. I have only a couple friends than play football online. My real life friends dont play video games--besides the fact that i move so much that i go months w/o talkin to a lotta them--but i HATE playing games online...if its not lag, it the cheesers.

[Phobia]

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Yea, everyone doesnt play online....thats what most ya'll are forgetting. I have only a couple friends than play football online. My real life friends dont play video games--besides the fact that i move so much that i go months w/o talkin to a lotta them--but i HATE playing games online...if its not lag, it the cheesers.

Well my situation is a bit different. My entire friends list is OS guys and only play off my friend list. So 99% of my online games are in a sim format. So I don't have the issue with cheeser.

Now with that said. I agree that franchise is a nice addition. The point I was making is that gameplay should supersede all the extra stuff such as franchise. Having a solid foundation that plays with way real football plays is #1. Then once they get the gameplay down then start adding in the key elements for replayability.

I think the core foundation is like Weeman and Sb touched on. Is the X & O's should be very solid for the game to succeed. You are going to be going against a football giant in EA. Not competing directly but indirectly you have the same "football" fans buying their title. So there is no way backbreaker will be able to compete in the added "fluff" that madden has built into its franchise over the course of years and years.

So to turn heads, so they get a chance at backbreaker 2, is to have a very solid gameplay experience. Something that is better than madden on the field. They won't get noticed because of having a good franchise mode. It will be their ON FIELD experience that gives them a chance at having good sales numbers to bring back the team for a second iteration.

[Pacman83]

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Yea...same page there...but you'd figure with all the delays the fine tuning was with gameplay, because it seems as (even though there is one--thankfully) "franchise" got the short end. But its all good if i can stay on the field and have a few off the field additions--NOT mascot mode/superstar b.s.

All in all though-- i think gameplay keeps sports games strong and is a good base to compete. But franchise keeps more people interested , longer. So personally (probably for many others) i'll play for months on gameplay...but much longer with other solid modes such as franchise or SS (which has gotten weak)

I'll say for the last time though i pray BOTH are solid. I figure on the field though is where its at--but i just hope theres more for us offline players .....ie APF (cause i dont always have internet with all the moving...Germany, Texas, Miss, & Cali last 5 years.)

[Skyboxer]

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Yea I get what you are saying but a new football game in 2010 should have some type of franchise I am not talking about pricing seats and hot dogs, just a multi year type of mode that you can build your team from. Kind of like of what the dev's of BB has hinted too. Again, I am not trying to argue with anyone and I like to read your posts on the Show forums. I just like to have good discussions with people. Its hard to express yourself through text LOL. I am 28 how old are you? IMO after 13 years of sports games a franchise type mode is needed and I think that having one gives BB football a better chance of having success in the long run. Without the support of a lot of customers it will be one and done and I do not want that to happen.

The issue isn't whether they should have one or not though. The issue is people not understanding that some gamers like myself could still enjoy the game without a franchise mode. As long as the gameplay is very good I really don't need a franchise to enjoy it. Do I prefer one? Yes sir, absolutely.
Guess what I'm saying is if BB has franchise and the gameplay sucks I would rather have had them work on getting the X's and O's right first then get a nice franchise in.
Hopefully we'll have both but I'm not setting the bar that high yet as I don't want to get myself all excited then dissappointed.