Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

Yep, it all depends on your sliders. I suggest you guys give these a shot http://www.operationsports.com/forum...pdate-2-a.html.
I'm not sure roadman if you were referring to these, but these are close to default.

I've seen sacks(plenty 5 against the Rams and 8 against the Lions).
I don't have a 99 rated player at kr, Im using the young cats that are lower rated for KRs(R. Cartwright) and PRs(D. Thomas) and its been much better challenge returning kicks now.

Those are the one's I was referring to.

[Skuxx24]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

Ok the patch is great it fixes a lot of gameplay improvements the man to man is better also the flats seemed to be fixed. But the big concern is the franchise stats The RBS number can be fixed with coaching sliders but the tackle issue still seems to be a problem.

Im glad corner tackles went up which was great but they have taken away tackles from other postions as well such as FS and SS. i sim over 3 seasons and All FS averaged around 24 tackles a season that is ridculous. I din't wana see Bethea, Dawkins and Nick Collins getting only 1 tackle a game or worse none at all. It is minor but still if they can;t get stats right maybe hire a guy that works on stats for the NFL or something.

Other than that the patch great for me great to See trent cole finallly getting to the QB without him throwing it out before he does. The cpu running seems to be better i played the redskins and portis got 105 on 19 carries.

Overall it is a good patch i beleive kudos to EA

[icicle22]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

I haven't tried it yet as I am at work, but I am concerned about the kick returns becoming more difficult. I play as the Browns and have Josh Cribbs who should be a good return man. And he was prior to patch 1. I used to be able to return kickoffs really well...then patch 1 neutralized him and kick returns have been futile since. he cannot outrun anyone to the corners and goes down easily. However I hear many of you saying that patch 2 is tightening up kick coverage even more. What am I missing? I hate to have this aspect of the game become even more frustrating.

[nld230]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

The best kick returners might bring two or 3 kickoffs back for a TD in their career. Devin Hester, in 2007, returned an astonishing 4 punts back for TDs, and 2 kickoffs.

Even the best returners should be stopped on nearly every return. Hester was even greatly helped by facing the 07 Rams inept special teams.

So, if Cribbs returns only 1 kickoff for a TD, that's still good by NFL standards. And if he averages kickoffs around the 30 yard line, that's good for NFL standards.

[DaveDQ]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

One thing about the "duck" throws. You know, if you make a pass in desperation, and you have pressure, that should happen. It happened to Brady this past week. What I'm noticing is they don't have the airtime and arch they once did. They seem faster.

I think it should be there and I know for me sometimes I need to hit that throw away button.

[joejccva71]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

I'm truely impressed regarding this patch. Couple more things:

1. Duck passes aren't gone COMPLETELY, but they are realistic depending on the QB. I've played 4 games so far with the Skins and the only QB that I've played against that has tried duck passes is Matthew Stafford (which makes sense).

Eli Manning didn't throw one, Marc Bulger didn't throw one, etc. They both held onto the ball and took the sack.

2. Pancakes are IN folks. They weren't being calculated practically at all, and they are finally being counted and working. This was HUGE.

3. Tackles are calculated correctly. Although I won't know how realistic it is until the end of the season as far as MLB's getting most of the tackles.

4. DB pursuit angles are better although not PERFECT.

Jason Campbell in 4 games has only thrown 2 picks and I use coach mode. In fact one of the picks that he threw was a defender that made a diving catch in the endzone to pick it off.

Overall I'm pleased with the patch. The game isn't perfect obviously but it's alot better than it was. If you tune your sliders good based on several slider threads, then you should have great games with realistic stats.

[sportyguyfl31]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

Going to be home in 15 minutes..Im going to play a game online and on defense im going to play with a DL every down, so I can see how the AI is responding.

On offense, Im going to force the ball into the flats and short zones, and see what I get away with.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

All in all the game feels pretty complete for this cycle of Madden, I'd love some huge changes next year and a totally re-vamped franchise but I know feel that I've gotten my $60.00 value out of Madden and didn't feel that way prior to patch # 2

I feel the same way now. I did like the game pre patch but all of those issues were really, really ruining any fun I was having but now after the patch things feel great and I'm having a good time playing online and off.

the good:
-suction on the line(and in general) has been greatly reduced

This is something I've noticed as well. Blitzing feels a lot more natural now. I had one play in a game where I called a SS blitz and I was actually able to open up a blitz lane for my SS and he got to the QB without getting sucked into any blocks.

So is it showing the draft info for the pre-made or imported rookies?

Haven't checked this yet but I will soon. I only looked at Antonio Gates to confirm the draft info was there.

Just a small thing, but are the blocks on the back of the helmets for the Patriots and other teams gone?

Thanks!

PS3 guys already said this was fixed.

[WG5516]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

Using the custom Sliders and playing on All Pro 6 Min.

I just smoked Pittsburgh (91 Overall) 55-3

Key Notes:

-Roethlisberger had 6 Ints.
-I wasn't able to sit back and throw in my crossing routes all game.
-The game blew open in the 3rd when I scored 2 Defensive TD both Pick 6s from Terrance Newman
-Romo had 235yrds 3Tds... (Way below my avg)
-Also the CPU AI was on point and took away my #1 receiver. M. Crabtree finished with 1 catch for 17yrds. While my slot reciever, Devin Thomas finished with 8rec for 103.
-Run game blocking was on point
-LOTS of instant replays.


The BAD:
-On two occasions 1 for me and 1 for the CPU, our receivers were clearly in bounds and they called it an incomplete pass.

[rickypro]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

In 3 franchise games I've played I've returned about 10 kickoffs and there have been 4 holding calls... I'm hoping this is just unlucky and not something the patch broke.

That ratio is probably not far off of the real life figures. Seems like there is a flag on lots of returns these days.

[astarr]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

I played a pre-season game vs the Colts (it's year 3 so my team is completley changed through draft picks, but the Colts still have their core guys). I gotta say I loved the way the game played. I use Bill Harris' Sliders. I love the improved blocking, kick returns are more difficult, CPU AI appears better on D (I called the same pass play 3 times in a row TE and WR go to flats on speed out routes and RB does an angle route while the remaining 2 WRs go on streaks, anyway, CPU shut it down by simply covering everyone up and I had to throw the ball away).

I think these are great. I believe in Sim style sports games, but I don't mind putting up with some high RB numbers. Hopefully next year EA can really nail Franchise mode with correct stats and such.

I am happy with this game now. Just waiting for the new roster update and I will restart my new franchise. Go Hawks!

[CatMan72]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

First game against the Eagles after the patch, McNabb still had an uncanny ability to get rid of the ball just before being sacked...

Noticed that the CPU is much better at running the ball and CPU defense is much better at stopping the run. Pre-patch I played as the Panthers against the Eagles and DeAngelo Williams lit them up for 200+ yards. Post-patch I barely squeezed out 100 yards, the CPU tackling seems much more consistent.

[reyes the roof]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

I only played one game, but cpu clock management seems to be better. Usually when the cpu gets the ball inside 2 mins they start running the ball and then burning timeouts and then running again. Now they actually go into a hurry up offense

[joejccva71]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

Mods: Is it possible to get this thread stickied just like the PS3 one?

Thanks fellas.

[likebuttababy11]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Available, Impressions Here (360)

I need to know if they fixed the man align,it never worked the right way and I'm tired of my SS having to cover the RB out of the backfield and being way out of position,a simple man align should move him over the RB or switch the SS over the TE and have some1 closer to the LOS cover the RB.