Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Roundtable

[SOCOM59]

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I remember shelling out $50 on an inferior basketball game in the late 80's for the 1st Nintendo system. It was terrible. There was nothing I could do about it, either. No patches, no online, nothing. Back then, you took your lumps.

As far as stats go, I was a fanatic about stats up until a few years ago. I've worked 4 months on stats in the past with Madden with a group of dedicated gamers trying to get stats close to NFL avgs.

Personally, I don't have time for that anymore. It takes an hour to play the game as it is and my time has become very limited. Now, I'm lucky to get through one season and before you know it, baseball is out in early March.

This Madden might have me playing longer because of the improved game play (based on my opinion) after patch #2.

Cpfrank, as far as issues with franchise mode, I didn't expect anything of a major upgrade with franchise mode from even 09 to 10. Josh was very clear that a minor upgrade would occur during the production of 10. He told members of OS don't expect everything from HC to become integrated into Madden 10. Based on those statement, it was pretty clear to me that franchise mode was tweaked a bit for 10 with nothing receiving a major overhaul.

Hopefully, franchise mode get's some love in 11.

50 bucks at launch...if that. Anyways, I will not debate on pricing as I considered the total cost (system plus games) to be lower then compared to now..that was what I was getting at. *Unless a person was a Neo Geo fan, that price never went down.
Plus you have to consider that licensing monopolies (well close to a monopoly I guess) and web enhancement were not apart of the game back then..like you said but , as I read it, in a different context. Like it was a positive nowadays? Well, sure it is but for added content but thats merely it. I would consider web supplementation (updates and such), better platforms (PS2, Ps3, Xbox360), and newer engines to reasons for games to progress compared to regress.
Which brings me back to my first post...

To each his or her own I guess. I hear ya on baseball though, cannot wait.

[Herky]

Franchise needs a ton of work still.

[PatriotJames]

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This is so simple...take what everyone loved about every Madden game...and put it all into ONE!!! We want Head Coach type franchise...put it in there! They have all the information to go off of! Realistic stats...Madden 2005 was pretty realistic.

Honestly IDK what everyone is complaining about the gameplay however. I think this is top notch. Yes it could be better. I really think it is better than 09 by far, I really don't see why this is getting so many complaints.

NFL Head Coach Franchise Mode + Madden 2005 stats + Madden 10 Graphics/Gameplay = success

[roadman]

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50 bucks at launch...if that. Anyways, I will not debate on pricing as I considered the total cost (system plus games) to be lower then compared to now..that was what I was getting at. *Unless a person was a Neo Geo fan, that price never went down.
Plus you have to consider that licensing monopolies (well close to a monopoly I guess) and web enhancement were not apart of the game back then..like you said but , as I read it, in a different context. Like it was a positive nowadays? Well, sure it is but for added content but thats merely it. I would consider web supplementation (updates and such), better platforms (PS2, Ps3, Xbox360), and newer engines to reasons for games to progress compared to regress.
Which brings me back to my first post...

To each his or her own I guess. I hear ya on baseball though, cannot wait.

Yeah, your right to each their own.

My point on the matter was that game plus the $99.00 price tag for Nintendo and now you have a total price of $150.00 for the late 80's. 20 yrs later and you need to factor in technology plus inflation and wages.(galleon of gas cost 79 cents in LA) Compared to $350.00 today for a game plus system. I don't think it's far off when you factor in those issues.

Just my take, though.

[MrDhWhat]

Did anybody else notice the rotaion of the football when it is thrown its BACKWARDS. if your right handed the ball will spin clock wise and if your left handed the ball will counter clockwise. not vise versa.

[Joeyland]

Your discussing this game as if it matters, Madden is so over, only EA does'nt get it. This game doesn't deserve to be discussed at a high level, how bout getting as good as APF from 3 years ago, then you can talk. For now its just a crap game with a massive hype job surrounding it.

[cpdfrank]

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Your discussing this game as if it matters, Madden is so over, only EA does'nt get it. This game doesn't deserve to be discussed at a high level, how bout getting as good as APF from 3 years ago, then you can talk. For now its just a crap game with a massive hype job surrounding it.

I believe your right. Some of us, including me, need to wake up and smell the coffee.

[HolyCrap]

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Josh is right game play is biggest issue and needs alot of work..line play and ball trajectory are abysmal.

Cant have the glitches where balls are going through peoples hands and stuff like that that must be out by madden 2011.

Has anyone seen the come back routes in Madden wtf is that its like their on a turn table or some thing. the gliding and warping and suction stuff must be done away with it ruins the whole game

[countryboy]

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In fact, I'd wager at this point, the only people who are still playing Madden seriously are those in online franchises, because that's really the only area where the fun factor manages to overcome this game's flaws IMO.

How much are you willing to wager?

[Bgamer90]

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In fact, I'd wager at this point, the only people who are still playing Madden seriously are those in online franchises...

You're kidding right? Not everyone that plays Madden has the same mentality that many people here on OS have.

[spankdatazz22]

Otherwise I am happy to say that the Madden team is poised to make gamers completely forget about NFL 2K5 when Madden 11 is released next August.

This is one hilariously sad quote

[Hova57]

its not that bad of game it just needs to adjust ball trajectory,line play , 3-4 defense and come up with some happy medium for jump ball animation. also give the defensive ends power to swallow the pocket.

[Smokez4DAyz]

Too many guys overstate nfl 2k5, I know it was stellar, but most of the mechanics in that game isn't what madden is, so let's stop with the pseudo comparisons. Madden vs human is still a top 5 video game experience, madden franchise is fully customized now, and only formation audibles have not been carried to next gen, my only gripe. Madden and NBA2K are still the most accurate sports video games we play. Not The cheesy Show, and not crack head speed NCAA or boring FIFA.

[Articula]

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I'll tell you what, if this patch had been the game out of the box from day one, we would be heralding Madden 10 as the biggest jump in year to year editions of this game ever. It's sad it took this long to get this patch out, but all in all it makes Madden a very solid and re-playable game.

I fired up my franchise with my buddy last night and saw stuff I've never seen before. For instance, balls coming out of the QB's hand can now be tipped by the lineman, I even saw a dead duck that was tipped at the line get intercepted. QB's tend to throw bad in cold/wet weather, same goes for more fumbling takes place in the bad weather.

Draft history and the draft were cleaned up a bit. The draft now lists all players who have been drafted as drafed, which did not occur prior to the patch.

OL/DL interaction still needs to be worked on, if they can get that right along with an big time upgrade to franchise mode (think Head Coach) we will have a game that does topple NFL2k5.

Kudos to the M'10 staff for giving us a bone with this patch. If we see the same incremental improvement as we saw from this patch edition of M'10 over M'09, I don't think any of us will be disappointed.

[xrams]

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This is an off topic question: Are there Power rankings in Madden after 10weeks like 2k5..??? I can't seem to find them in my chise...