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  • DrewBledsoe
    Pro
    • Oct 2004
    • 625

    #661
    Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

    Right I finally dloaded the patch#2, and have played some games.

    Firstly, I'm really at a loss to say exactly what's changed. OK. I hadn't played Madden in a while, but everything seemed almost exactly the same, as far as gameplay.

    I have severe doubts that the Ds really play any better. They may react a little quicker to outside runs, but then the Oline seems to block a little better on outside runs. They may cover the flats a bit better, but then I never really threw (in a cheesy way) to them beforehand. Pursuit angles seem overall a little better, but not really game alteringly.

    I really don't see the ai D covering better in any way shape or form. In fact, I'm still hitting far too many passes for my liking.

    The ai QB is still virtually untouchable (1 sack in 16 qrts testing)

    BUT, it's soo difficult to tell, on only half a dozen half-games. For instance, I'm back to testing SD VS NYJ, and with exactly the same test parameters, you get such different results.

    The first one, it was 27-24 to me at the half, both Qbs over 200 yds passing, an offensive shootout. Then the next game, I was trailing 10-3 at the half, with no O for either team to speak of (the TD off a muffed punt)..

    The one after that, was great fun, and I tweaked out a 13-10 victory (game completed).

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    So to cut a long story shorter, at the moment, the only things that slightly concern me, are the ai maybe not running well enough, and the human passing game being a little strong. But on the second item, I'm possibly judging with a bias of watching the Jets RL horrific passing attack week in and week out. And you have to remember this is still a game

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    Will keep testing and let you know....back to see my folks in a couple of days for a few days though (this patch was just too late)...
    Madden :- Bears VS Vikings Sunday Night 08:- "The Bears defence have some of the best strippers in the NFL" :)

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    • MeanMrMustard
      Rookie
      • Jan 2008
      • 274

      #662
      Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

      Interesting. I've noticed a bit of a spike in my sack totals, but maybe it's a sample size thing. I've only played a handful of offline games since the patch hit.

      But for what it's worth, I had 6 sacks as a team in each of my first two preseason games for a franchise I'm starting. Pre-patch I was right around 1 or 2 a game.

      And I realize pre-season means benches for half the game, which changes the o-line/d-line match-ups, but I will say there were quite a few times where the QB wasn't chucking a lame duck at the first sign of contact, when pre-patch I think he would have. Anyway ... My point is, I don't think it's a placebo effect, but I'll leave that to the hardcore testers.
      Last edited by MeanMrMustard; 12-23-2009, 06:52 PM.
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      • MeanMrMustard
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        • Jan 2008
        • 274

        #663
        Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

        I should add, I use the Cowboys, who play a 3-4. I know there was talk of bumping up 3-4 OLB sack totals —*I don't know if that was purely a sim stat thing, or if they were going to actually make them better at getting pressure during gameplay. If it's the latter, that could explain some of my higher sack numbers.
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        • DrewBledsoe
          Pro
          • Oct 2004
          • 625

          #664
          Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

          Originally posted by MeanMrMustard
          I should add, I use the Cowboys, who play a 3-4. I know there was talk of bumping up 3-4 OLB sack totals —*I don't know if that was purely a sim stat thing, or if they were going to actually make them better at getting pressure during gameplay. If it's the latter, that could explain some of my higher sack numbers.
          I'm pretty sure the 3-4 OLB sacks, were just bumped for sim games.
          I also forgot, just how long precise testing takes, to try and establish definite facts......

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          Anyways, off away soon for Christmas, back probably Sunday...have a good one everyone!
          Last edited by DrewBledsoe; 12-23-2009, 09:31 PM.
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          • Ironwolf1974
            Banned
            • Jul 2007
            • 150

            #665
            Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

            Ive played about 5 games with "My Skill" activated and not once has my outside linebackers gotten a sack.

            The D Line has gotten many, but never my OLB's in my 3-4 defense.

            They certainly didnt seem to change anything!

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            • favre4ever
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 9

              #666
              Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

              DB i really need your help. Your sliders are the best and that means something because I have tried everyone's sliders including Playmaker, Bill Harris and many more and I have to say that yours gives the best stats and gameplay. The only problem is that I can't use my favorite team which is the vikings because I seem to score about 31 ponits before halftime and about 50 something points in total. And I don't allow the CPU to score any points at all. It works well with other teams but not the Vikings. And it just doesn't feel right using any other team other than my VIKINGS (11-3).

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              • DrewBledsoe
                Pro
                • Oct 2004
                • 625

                #667
                Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                Originally posted by favre4ever
                DB i really need your help. Your sliders are the best and that means something because I have tried everyone's sliders including Playmaker, Bill Harris and many more and I have to say that yours gives the best stats and gameplay. The only problem is that I can't use my favorite team which is the vikings because I seem to score about 31 ponits before halftime and about 50 something points in total. And I don't allow the CPU to score any points at all. It works well with other teams but not the Vikings. And it just doesn't feel right using any other team other than my VIKINGS (11-3).
                I can only guess:-

                Madden rates AP, and Favre as almost perfect players at their positions. You have an excellent O Line. I suppose it's pretty easy to rack up points.

                Your D line is also excellent, as is most of your D overall.

                I'm really not sure how to solve your problem. In Madden terms, you have an almost unbeatable team, heck on paper the Vikes IRL should be almost unbeatable.

                But RL isn't Madden, and Peterson has been stopped cold in a couple of games this season (13/19 vs Ariz, 12-35 vs Car), and held in check in many. In fact if you look purely at the stats, then Thomas Jones is a better RB than Peterson this year -no I don't actually believe that's true either Yet in Madden, he's still pretty much Robo-Back.

                Favre, while being the master that he is, is probably also just a bit too good in Madden.

                All I can advise, is maybe making your run game and pass game worse (try small decreases at a time in QB ACC, Run Blk and Brk Tackle), and maybe drop Def Awr, Blk Shed and Tkl for your own Defence.

                In Madden terms though, your Vikes team should be a 13-3, 14-2 team at very least...
                Madden :- Bears VS Vikings Sunday Night 08:- "The Bears defence have some of the best strippers in the NFL" :)

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                • favre4ever
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9

                  #668
                  Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                  Thanks for the help DB. You have amazing sliders by the way. You should quit what ever that it is that you do and find a job at ea sports cause they don't know what they are doing with simulation football. But you SIR do.

                  THANX-----HAPPY HOLIDAYS

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                  • DrewBledsoe
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 625

                    #669
                    Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                    Thanks Favre

                    Got back home yesterday, did a little more testing then and today (played some as Vikes, I see what you mean Favre). My football gland got restimulated yesterday, when everyone lost, and we beat the Colts (and guys, lets not talk about the merits of the Win, it still counts as a W)

                    I'm going to take 5 off human BRK TKL in the first post, as even with Peterson I was breaking just too many tackles overall. Got to remember though, that Peterson is just about perfect for his position in Madden 2010, and therefore he should be a one man wrecking machine.

                    I just can't take any more off QB ACC as far as I'm concerned, as even at 23, deep throws are just too wild. Might consider giving the ai a slight bump vs the human passing game in another way.

                    Change in bold in 1st post.
                    Madden :- Bears VS Vikings Sunday Night 08:- "The Bears defence have some of the best strippers in the NFL" :)

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                    • mayala03
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 58

                      #670
                      Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                      Ok DB thanks for the instructions...they kinda helped...only problem I am noticing now is that when I press select after making they "custom" nothing happens or pops up as you said. I am able to input the CPU skill sliders but dont know how to input the hum sliders. I know its not under "My Skill" or is it? If it is, this is the set of sliders that only lets you go up to 20 and some of your values are higher than that..as I stated before of course. I have yet to take the Madden IQ test so its still at the base of 500...do I need to take it for these sliders? Thanks and sorry for the bother. If anyone could help I would appreciate it. I play on the PS3

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                      • alkaline
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 16

                        #671
                        Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                        Do these sliders help stop the cpu all out blitzing every play in franchise?

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                        • db56
                          Veteran
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 790

                          #672
                          Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                          Originally posted by alkaline
                          Do these sliders help stop the cpu all out blitzing every play in franchise?
                          If you control all 32 teams in your franchise and set the coaching scheme adjustments manually for each team, the cpu controlled team will call more realistic plays on both sides of the ball.

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                          • mjh91
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 463

                            #673
                            Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                            Scoring is too high for me. I'm at the end of the first quarter right now, up 24-14. I'm the Bears, facing the Falcons.
                            Chicago Cubs - Chicago Bears - Milwaukee Bucks

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                            • MeanMrMustard
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 274

                              #674
                              Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                              Originally posted by db56
                              If you control all 32 teams in your franchise and set the coaching scheme adjustments manually for each team, the cpu controlled team will call more realistic plays on both sides of the ball.
                              This helps a LOT, I've found. The engage eight play-calls on the default settings are out of control this year.
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                              • Above Awesome
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                                • Jan 2010
                                • 23

                                #675
                                Re: DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed)

                                I'm loving the sliders so far, but I find that 15 min quarters are a tad too long for my taste. In my first game, the offense was dominating the game. In the first 15 minutes, the score was 31-27, SF over ARI.

                                Is this normal or was this game a fluke? Would 7 min quarters affect the gameplay and stats drastically?

                                Thanks for the sliders though

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