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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    OS Awards: Best Presentation

    Presentation is the part of a game where we are literally presented with a developer's vision of a sport. Be it NCAA Basketball's TV-style broadcast integration, NBA 2K10's sweeping NBA Today presentation or the baseball euphoria that washes over you when you play MLB '09: The Show, developers have to have stunning presentation to even have their games considered as all-time greats in this day and age.

    With that in mind, our winner this year took huge steps forward in the presentation department while receiving mixed reviews in the gameplay department. Perhaps gameplay is still the most fundamentally important aspect of a game, but a lot of people have forgiven NCAA Basketball 10's gameplay woes due to its outstanding presentation, and that is why it wins our Best Presentation of 2009 Award.

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  • spankdatazz22
    All Star
    • May 2003
    • 6219

    #2
    Ridiculous vote imo. I think the message being given is it's more important to sign television exclusives, add their music and screen wipes, and your game is instantly considered to have great presentation. It wasn't ESPN that made NFL2K5 presentation great, it was how everything was implemented on the whole. While I think the two commentary teams is something innovative in itself, as someone noted during the voting - the commentary itself for the two teams is bland. So it just comes down to presenting the appropriate tv wipes and pop ups. Even the crowds don't react as they should. I think more emphasis was put on having exclusive tv licenses than on actual content. Pitiful.

    Just unfortunate because I think there's no other game doing what NBA2K10 is doing presentation-wise on a technical level for all the reasons noted in the actual voting thread - and there were MANY reasons listed, not just that EA managed to sign exclusives to two networks and implemented two commentary teams. Even The Show developers have admitted that they're trying to make take their game more in the direction 2K already is at with realtime presentation.
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    • JkA3
      Strategy
      • Jul 2008
      • 858

      #3
      I don't really feel this one. This game, overall, seems to lack immersion because of the 'lack' of "REAL" presentation.

      But, I think they did do a good job on this catagory.
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      • jyoung
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11132

        #4
        I agree that NCAA Basketball may have had the right "look" this year, but it certainly didn't have the right "feel."

        The close proximity of voting percentages seems to show that, even though NCAA Basketball won both the staff and reader awards, not everyone was drinking the CBS/ESPN kool aid.

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        • Shinyhubcaps
          MVP
          • Oct 2007
          • 1786

          #5
          I certainly disagree with the reader quote that "The only game with licensed presentation equals the best presentation." I mean, that's how it turned out, but it shouldn't sound like a cause-and-effect. If NHL 10 had Versus wipes, its presentation would still be pretty bad. And to that effect, NBA 2K10 has very good (albeit somewhat annoying) presentation that wouldn't be much better if it said TNT or NBATV on it.

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          • johnprestonevans
            Pro
            • Oct 2008
            • 529

            #6
            I have yet to play NCAA Basketball 10, but im smitten on presentation. I think it should be the goal of every development team to not only duplicate the way players look, behave and control, but also to replicate the sport the WAY we see it on TV. NBA2K10 is fantastic. MLB09 The Show sounds like a real broadcast. I hope that EA's other franchises will take note and follow the lead set by these 3 bohemaths.

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            • spankdatazz22
              All Star
              • May 2003
              • 6219

              #7
              Re: OS Awards: Best Presentation

              Originally posted by Shinyhubcaps
              I certainly disagree with the reader quote that "The only game with licensed presentation equals the best presentation." I mean, that's how it turned out, but it shouldn't sound like a cause-and-effect. If NHL 10 had Versus wipes, its presentation would still be pretty bad. And to that effect, NBA 2K10 has very good (albeit somewhat annoying) presentation that wouldn't be much better if it said TNT or NBATV on it.
              Then I'm not understanding how NCAA Basketball won this award. I agree with you, if I'm understanding what you said. But it seems like licensing played more into NCAA Basketball winning than the actual content. Seems like everybody that's voted for the game says in some way "it feels just like a tv broadcast, without mentioning anything about the actual content.

              I don't own the game but from what I've heard and seen in video, though there are two commentary teams in NCAA both are stale and somewhat bland. And I'm POSITIVE the game is doing nothing on the level of replays, "wipes", stat displays (with NBA Today, 2K10 is displaying real life updated stats, they have holiday-themed displays/commentary, etc.), etc... In 2K10 a player can actually interact with the bench, coaches, referees, a few of the people at the baselines. You have cheerleaders and mascots doing varying routines in realtime. And I'm not even mentioning everything. I'd invite someone to make the argument why NCAA deserved it over that but I'm sure I'll hear "But... it has real ESPN and CBS music. That's awewome!"

              Now let's sit back and watch as other sports devs spend money rushing to sign other networks to exclusivity, since the supposed smartest sports site out there thinks that's what's most important
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              • Bumble14
                Producer - EA Sports
                • Dec 2004
                • 808

                #8
                Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                Then I'm not understanding how NCAA Basketball won this award. I agree with you, if I'm understanding what you said. But it seems like licensing played more into NCAA Basketball winning than the actual content. Seems like everybody that's voted for the game says in some way "it feels just like a tv broadcast, without mentioning anything about the actual content.

                I don't own the game but from what I've heard and seen in video, though there are two commentary teams in NCAA both are stale and somewhat bland. And I'm POSITIVE the game is doing nothing on the level of replays, "wipes", stat displays (with NBA Today, 2K10 is displaying real life updated stats, they have holiday-themed displays/commentary, etc.), etc... In 2K10 a player can actually interact with the bench, coaches, referees, a few of the people at the baselines. You have cheerleaders and mascots doing varying routines in realtime. And I'm not even mentioning everything. I'd invite someone to make the argument why NCAA deserved it over that but I'm sure I'll hear "But... it has real ESPN and CBS music. That's awewome!"

                Now let's sit back and watch as other sports devs spend money rushing to sign other networks to exclusivity, since the supposed smartest sports site out there thinks that's what's most important
                I think you should play NCAA 10 for a decent amount of time before passing judgement on it. The presentation has to be fully experienced to be understood. It is much much more than licensed wipes and two "bland" announcing crews.

                I'm a huge fan of 2K10's NBA Today, but NCAA 10's presentation is out of this world.
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                • spankdatazz22
                  All Star
                  • May 2003
                  • 6219

                  #9
                  Re: OS Awards: Best Presentation

                  Originally posted by Bumble14
                  I think you should play NCAA 10 for a decent amount of time before passing judgement on it. The presentation has to be fully experienced to be understood. It is much much more than licensed wipes and two "bland" announcing crews.

                  I'm a huge fan of 2K10's NBA Today, but NCAA 10's presentation is out of this world.
                  The gameplay isn't for me. I tried the demo though. And watched some movies that another person felt "redefined gameplay presentation in sports games" as he put it. I saw/heard nothing that came close to NFL2K5, let alone comes close to the attention to detail and little things that is in NBA2K10. But I'm not going to argue it; on a board where Madden is meriting serious sports game of the year/most realistic gameplay consideration I'll just accept that my sensibilities are more at odds than in line with the general consensus here.
                  HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                  XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                  congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                  • videlsports
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 500

                    #10
                    Re: OS Awards: Best Presentation

                    NBA2k10 should have won this award. NBA today is outstanding. and the commentary is fresh everytime. March madness has decent presentation with CBS/ espn. But the dynamic updates still are not as impressive as NBA today.
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                    • eDotd
                      We ain't cool de la?
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 6284

                      #11
                      Re: OS Awards: Best Presentation

                      Bleh. 2K10 got ripped off.

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                      • Skyboxer
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20302

                        #12
                        Re: OS Awards: Best Presentation

                        Rediculous choice as the winner....
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