MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

I'm pretty sure this is part of the broadcast camera. It is systematic to the flow of the rest of it (changes to this view when left of center, the center cam in the middle of the field, and down the right field line when right of center).

I'm not saying I don't realize this isn't a demo mode, but I don't think that's a relevant point in this case. This is the broadcast cam we're seeing in full effect here.

No, it is NOT relevant, because that is the ONLY time we saw that camera angle. And the only time out of all the videos we saw that particular camera view, was on that one that says DEMO MODE. All the other PLAYER CONTROLLED ones were fixed behind the backstop with a zoom effect.

And even if it was used like you think, don't you think it would be situational and not alienating you out of plays.

You are basically asking way too many questions that are out of our realm of knowledge, and wont be known until they are ready to talk about such things. Patience.

[beau21]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

I agree that I would very much like to see a center-fixed camera angle like this one available at all times.. be it included in the retail copy or added later as a patched in camera option

However if this is not an option, I will be more than content with the one they've already showed.

My 2$

[Blzer]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

Blz...I think the real problem is...you regard YOURSELF too highly.
Seriously....get a grip on yourself.

I know you're trying to get everything perfect(in Blzr's world perfect)....but you're a little heavy handed.

Less coffee...more water perhaps?

M.K.
Knight165

Definitely man, it's a flaw of mine that I'm working on. Being a perfectionist (that doesn't mean that you're perfect, that means you strive for perfection) isn't always a good thing when time is against you, but can you honestly say that this series would be where it is now if it wasn't for the community feedback and working 100+ hours a week at times to make sure we have the greatest baseball game ever?

I never once spoke of myself, by the way. Like you just told me, there's nothing in my life that I think is good enough about me and I strive to make it better myself.

In short... I'll never be happy.

I agree that I would very much like to see a center-fixed camera angle like this one available at all times.. be it included in the retail copy or added later as a patched in camera option

However if this is not an option, I will be more than content with the one they've already showed.

My 2$

Agreed, and this is exactly the point that I'm trying to make. I'm the one that goes numb seeing this broadcast camera in effect, so you know that I'm satisfied with it. I'm just giving them a suggestion to really paralyze me (and perhaps everyone else as well).

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

How do you know that?

Because the screenshot says "demo mode", and even in 09' if you watch demo mode, you get all sorts of in play camera angles you dont get in a player controlled game.

[Blzer]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

I understand where you are coming from on this. Unfortunately there are going to be certain fielding scenarios that are going to be at more of a disadvantage than others. I know this camera view has been put under great scrutiny. We are going to have to wait and see what the end result will be.

Thanks nemesis, I think you have a kind of leveler head on what my suggestions mean with regards to the game and hope that you understand I am by no means bashing what they have in place.

[countryboy]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

You have me all wrong here. You know how much I loved MLB '09 The Show despite its "faults" (and I hardly want to call them such because they already do everything better than any other baseball game ever has). You just have to remember that this game became what it was because the developers are perfectionists themselves, and they have listened to the community give feedback. Remember that "secret" thing where they flew down community members to rip the game apart? Why did they do that? This is why... year in and year out they are getting closer to perfection. I would like to be a big help in that whenever possible.

I'm not saying that the things they have in the game are awful and require an overhaul or else I won't buy the game, so don't take the nitpicking personally or a means to defend the game at all cost. You don't need to be sarcastic towards me, I already know that I'm going to drive two hours away to find this game a week early, and that I will probably miss class the day that the demo comes out to play it until my eyes shut themselves. You don't have to remind me of how great this game already is, but I'm just trying to remind everyone of where the greatness comes from and where improvements can still be made.

you took a post personally that wasn't intended to be personal. I was joking around hence the at the end. I thought it would help it be understood that the post was meant to be a light-hearted comment. Perhaps I should've chosen another smiley...like maybe , , , , or . I also thought that by me posting the "BTW"...to start my second thought, that it would further illustrate the fact that the post was to be taken as light-hearted in nature. I apologize if you thought that I was being "sarcastic" towards you, as that was not the intention of my post.

You are not, or at least will not, be the only one that nitpicks at things when the game comes out, as I'll venture to say that we'll all do it in some form or fashion. Again, I am sorry if you thought my post was in some fashion an "attack" against you as it most certainly was not. I guess thats the problem with reading things via the computer is we, even with smileys, can't always understand the tone of a post nor fully disclose an intended tone with a post.

[Blzer]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

Lol, no, no I don't. And no offense man, but they know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than anyone on these boards do. Sorry, but that is a fact.

I honestly don't see where I can take offense on this, it's a fact that they know tenfold about this stuff more than we do. I never said that they didn't.

I think you would see me as a different person if you met me, man. I'm just a guy making suggestions that's being taken out of proportion because I should appreciate the "good things". But I do, believe that.

you took a post personally that wasn't intended to be personal. I was joking around hence the at the end. I thought it would help it be understood that the post was meant to be a light-hearted comment. I also thought that by mean posting the BTW...to start my second thought, that it would also help point out the fact that the post was to be taken as light-hearted in nature. I apologize if you thought that I was being "sarcastic" towards you, as that was not the intention of my post.

You are not, or at least, will not be the only one that nitpicks at things when the game comes out, as I'll venture to say that we'll all do it in some form or fashion. Again, I am sorry if you thought my post was in some fashion an "attack" against you as it most certainly was not. I guess thats the problem with reading things via the computer as we, even with smileys, can't always understand the tone of a post nor fully disclose an intended tone with a post.

Duly noted, especially the bold part. My apologies.

[jim416]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve?

What I meant when I made that comment was that I think most people here believe that these guys can turn East L.A. into El Dorado. These guys are very talented... but let's draw lines here.

You post something and wonder why you hit nerves, at times? You're comment about the devs turning East L.A. into El Dorado, but let's draw lines? I know what that means.

Blzer perhaps shorter posts and read what you post first and maybe the controversy would stop a bit. You are near dead horse territory after explaining it once. Maybe PMs to the devs now????

[LastActionHero]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

Ok I'm a little late to the party but thanks for your time and effort to supply us with text and vids.Now I didn't see any question regarding the throwing meter along the last 20 or so pages. I saw the graphic is still there so I was wondering if you noticed it being more responsive or felt anything different from 09?

Thanks.

[beau21]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

Ok I'm a little late to the party but thanks for your time and effort to supply us with text and vids.Now I didn't see any question regarding the throwing meter along the last 20 or so pages. I saw the graphic is still there so I was wondering if you noticed it being more responsive or felt anything different from 09?

Thanks.

Good question.

Can't believe this hasn't been asked previously.

[countryboy]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

Duly noted, especially the bold part. My apologies.

no need to apologize Blzer..as you said nothing in response that you need to apologize for, especially given the nature at which my original post was taken.

And you are right about the fact that we should be suggesting things that we are finding thats wrong with the game. Yes, its an early build and the dev team may have already corrected the issue or have resolved our "problem", but what if they didn't notice it or perhaps overlooked it?

I mean, playing the game at CES with Dmd allowed Russell to notice the fact that the post HR celebration at Target Field wasn't functionally properly, or at the very least, was to be looked into.

Take care man....

[Blzer]

Re: @ CES w/ Russell. Hands ON Impressions.

You post something and wonder why you hit nerves, at times? You're comment about the devs turning East L.A. into El Dorado, but let's draw lines? I know what that means.

Blzer perhaps shorter posts and read what you post first and maybe the controversy would stop a bit. You are near dead horse territory after explaining it once. Maybe PMs to the devs now????

With that, I completely understood what you just wrote and I hope that the developers at least take note of my suggestions, and with that I suppose the back-and-forth could be put to rest before the pot starts boiling. In no way did I try and bash anything or troll for attention, I personally hate it. The only reason I don't use PM's is because I'm looking for agreements from other members that perhaps there is a better approach to something, because they'll more than likely look at a consensus than a single post that isn't looked into any more than the post itself.

The developers are like a straight-A student: They've already gotten 100% on the test, but are trying to find a way to achieve extra credit. That is the most awesome thing I have ever seen from a development team, and I am so glad to be a part of the community that helps that happen.

[Knight165]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

Definitely man, it's a flaw of mine that I'm working on. Being a perfectionist (that doesn't mean that you're perfect, that means you strive for perfection) isn't always a good thing when time is against you, but can you honestly say that this series would be where it is now if it wasn't for the community feedback and working 100+ hours a week at times to make sure we have the greatest baseball game ever?

I never once spoke of myself, by the way. Like you just told me, there's nothing in my life that I think is good enough about me and I strive to make it better myself.

In short... I'll never be happy.



Agreed, and this is exactly the point that I'm trying to make. I'm the one that goes numb seeing this broadcast camera in effect, so you know that I'm satisfied with it. I'm just giving them a suggestion to really paralyze me (and perhaps everyone else as well).

No...you're absolutely right about feedback from everyone playing a pretty good part in the evolution of the game IMO....
Blz...you just go on being you....that's all good.
But if I can give you one little tidbit....don't take yourself and everything surrounding you so seriously.
A great guy once told me "Don't sweat the small stuff"...and as I progress further and further down the road....I find he was 100% correct.
That doesn't mean you don't strive for perfection...but don't get bent out of shape if you don't get it....dust off and give it another go.

M.K.
Knight165

[nemesis04]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

awhhhhhh, its getting warm and fuzzy in here again!

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

awhhhhhh, its getting warm and fuzzy in here again!

Hey, that will be enough out of you. From short grass to this.