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  • sandman0823
    Rookie
    • Apr 2009
    • 91

    #1

    DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

    Ok, now that you all have had a chance to work with the right stick on defense and I hope you've had success. There is so much more to know about the right stick D that not only enhances the play of the game but makes it a lot more enjoyable.

    The reason I changed the my controller setup to absolute, is that it makes it a lot simpler and to answer a few question the change to absolute only effects your defensive control. Now for some more gems. The right stick when mastered will help in every aspect of the game. For example, you can now guard the pick and roll more effectively. You can also call for help when caught on a mis-match.

    When guarding the pick and roll in the past we have all tried different tactics that flat out didn't work. Now that the right stick D has been discovered you can now set up in a defensive stance when sliding over or under the pick and the offensive ball handler won't blow by as easy in the past. If your caught on the roller, if you push and hold the right stick to the left you will deny the ball to that player and the passer will have a tougher pass to make and more than likely will result in a negative offensive posession.

    Defending the mismatch when your caught on a switch or if you are getting killed with penetration bcuz your defensive player just can't stay in front of the likes of Lebron. You can push and hold the right stick to the right and this will trigger your help defense. Hold the right stick to the right and angle your defensive stance by moving the left stick to force the ball handler to either the right or left depending on where your help is set up or coming from. When the offensive player goes to make his move you will see your help step up to either stop penetration or contest when you get beat. In this case you have to know your role. When the offensive player penetrates your help will step up, your next move is to rotate to the open player that your help rotated off. Once you find that player hold the right stick to the left to deny the pass.

    I hope this is helping you guys and I know a lot of you may have known this already but some of us and or a lot of us didn't.... Keep ballin 2k brotherhood....
  • Teebone21
    Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 757

    #2
    Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

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    • STLRams
      MVP
      • Aug 2005
      • 2847

      #3
      Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

      Damn I need to try these things with the right stick on defense.

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      • BroMontana82
        Support Sim
        • Nov 2004
        • 2225

        #4
        Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

        i def. need to try this. so can you use a combination of the D stance (R trigger to the left) and using the L trigger for aggressive D to get a very aggressive D stance like one of the great on ball D guys in the league would do?

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        • Joka2122
          Rookie
          • Nov 2008
          • 343

          #5
          Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

          Wow. I read your report on the "absolute" controls earlier, tried it, and it worked. I have to thank your and say good find for this man. I no it took a great deal of effort on your behalf. It would of been a nice gesture from the 2k Dev Team to acknowledge this in a guide or something instead of having us gamers figure out this for ourselves.

          Again thanks for your hard work and I'm looking forward to trying these extra tips.

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          • alsolidus
            Rookie
            • Aug 2005
            • 88

            #6
            Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

            Is it always left on absolute? Regardless of what side of the court I am.

            Also someone needs to post a vid or something detailing what it does or looks like when performed properly because I believe i'm doing something wrong because its not working lol.

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47562

              #7
              Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

              Originally posted by sambf12
              i def. need to try this. so can you use a combination of the D stance (R trigger to the left) and using the L trigger for aggressive D to get a very aggressive D stance like one of the great on ball D guys in the league would do?
              My defense is already perfect in my opinion. Not one complain about it. I might give this a test. But I need more feedback on user vs user games.
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              • sandman0823
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 91

                #8
                Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                Originally posted by alsolidus
                Is it always left on absolute? Regardless of what side of the court I am.

                Also someone needs to post a vid or something detailing what it does or looks like when performed properly because I believe i'm doing something wrong because its not working lol.
                Yes. If you change the controller set up to absolute and you hold the right stick to the left your player will get in his defensive stance. You have to move the left stick and mix in turbo from time to time stay with a heady ball handler but trust me it works.

                I will try to post a vid once I figure out how to upload videos from memory card out of my recorder...

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                • BroMontana82
                  Support Sim
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2225

                  #9
                  Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                  ok i'm trying this right now and honestly, it doesn't work at all. are you using the defense assist? whenever i use the right stick, it does nothing. i think what you are seeing is the fact that anytime you get close to the ball handler, the CPU will automatically put the defender into the defensive stance. i tried everything and it just doesn't do anything. if you have assist on, it might just be the AI doing this. also the only controls i see are for stealing and putting your hands up with the right stick.

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                  • stizz
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1718

                    #10
                    Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                    I don't see know difference when I use the right stick either. Maybe we're doing something wrong.

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                    • Jano
                      You Dead Wrong
                      • May 2004
                      • 3161

                      #11
                      Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                      In the other thread sandman said that he has defensive assist at 50 so you guys try adjusting that setting and then trying again.

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                      • EarvGotti
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2249

                        #12
                        Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                        Originally posted by Jano
                        In the other thread sandman said that he has defensive assist at 50 so you guys try adjusting that setting and then trying again.
                        DMXXXX. done started somethin!!! Sorry, that has nothing to do with the topic but i'm just glad to see a fellow DMX fan lol.

                        I tried this absolute thing but i've seen NO difference. What am i looking for?? It doesnt seem to be easier to stay with my man when using the right stick :S

                        Can you post a vid plz???
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                        • stizz
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1718

                          #13
                          Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                          I'll try raising that setting and see if I can notice a difference.

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                          • sandman0823
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 91

                            #14
                            Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                            Originally posted by sambf12
                            ok i'm trying this right now and honestly, it doesn't work at all. are you using the defense assist? whenever i use the right stick, it does nothing. i think what you are seeing is the fact that anytime you get close to the ball handler, the CPU will automatically put the defender into the defensive stance. i tried everything and it just doesn't do anything. if you have assist on, it might just be the AI doing this. also the only controls i see are for stealing and putting your hands up with the right stick.
                            I know what the defensive assist does. I only have it at 50 percent I am playing with all the default settings on superstar and trust me it works. Push the right stick to the left and hold it while defending the ball handler when the ball handler moves use move with the left stick. When you do not use it compared to using it you will see that the ball handler will immediately attack you to the basket when you use the right stick d the computer ai will probe to find an angel. Remember to stop movement when the ball handler stops.

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                            • BroMontana82
                              Support Sim
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 2225

                              #15
                              Re: DEFENSE... YES!!!! CONTINUED BY THE SANDMAN

                              Originally posted by sandman0823
                              I know what the defensive assist does. I only have it at 50 percent I am playing with all the default settings on superstar and trust me it works. Push the right stick to the left and hold it while defending the ball handler when the ball handler moves use move with the left stick. When you do not use it compared to using it you will see that the ball handler will immediately attack you to the basket when you use the right stick d the computer ai will probe to find an angel. Remember to stop movement when the ball handler stops.
                              and that's why you're seeing what you are. i have tried assist at 0, 50, and 100. no difference. I have tried doing this while using the L trigger and without it. in all of these situations, the CPU will make the user controlled defender go into a stance when you get close to the ball handler. and in both situations, the ball handler attacks or doesn't attack in the same way.

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