ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

[RogueHominid]

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DE contains work well against the screen.

I can lock this play down, and it's actually a pretty easy to read... I just need to have a better finish once I get to the HB.

Another nice advantage to playing DL on 3rd down is sniffing out screens. You can completely take that aspect away.

I've had the most success playing pass D though lately.

See, I'm not reading it well at the outset; I'm just containing it well when it happens.

What's the tell at the snap? The OL delay just a tad and so does the HB from what I can see, so I have a hard time diagnosing right away.

How do owners feel about turning it up to All Madden?

I got a good suggestion about this and it's something I've been considering for a few reasons:
--offensive statistics are just ridiculous, especially rushing ones
--CPU games are horrid and kill our league stats
--certain AI issues regarding the diagnosis of plays by the other 10 guys could be tightened up.

Thoughts?

One thing I like about this league is that it's constantly pushing me to get better. I'd welcome the challenge myself.

We could implement at the halfway point of this season, or after the regular season.

Discuss . . .

[CreatineKasey]

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See, I'm not reading it well at the outset; I'm just containing it well when it happens.

What's the tell at the snap? The OL delay just a tad and so does the HB from what I can see, so I have a hard time diagnosing right away.

How do owners feel about turning it up to All Madden?

I got a good suggestion about this and it's something I've been considering for a few reasons:
--offensive statistics are just ridiculous, especially rushing ones
--CPU games are horrid and kill our league stats
--certain AI issues regarding the diagnosis of plays by the other 10 guys could be tightened up.

Thoughts?

One thing I like about this league is that it's constantly pushing me to get better. I'd welcome the challenge myself.

We could implement at the halfway point of this season, or after the regular season.

Discuss . . .

I'm okay with All Madden. At this point in the game I read defense really well so it wouldn't hurt to have more solid pursuit.

Hint for the screen: Watch the RB. He takes a couple of steps towards the OL then stands straight up and down, motionless. I just watch for this. It's actually easy to diagnose real early if you watch the RB. He gives a look that only happens on screens.

[TWOSILK]

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i am fine with that, also how are you guys posting videos, I have some from my game against San Fran that I have saved, and would like to post

[jyoung]

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The problem with All Madden is that there's A LOT of cheating that goes on with the CPU players.

Even a bottom-of-the-barrel player becomes a star when he's controlled by the CPU on All Madden.

If you haven't seen those videos that show how much All Madden cheats, you should:

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I prefer All Pro because it still lets the stars be stars and the bums be bums instead of turning all the bums into stars just because they're under the CPU's control.

[CreatineKasey]

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The problem with All Madden is that there's A LOT of cheating that goes on with the CPU players.

Even a bottom-of-the-barrel player becomes a star when he's controlled by the CPU on All Madden.

If you haven't seen those videos that shows how much All Madden cheats, you should:

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I kind of agree with you. I want bad players to continue to play bad and good ones to stand out. I think a lot of the big yardage given up is from bad playcalling, not player issues.

Even in ultimate team with a 60 OVR team I've locked down teams in the 80's with solid playcalling.

Yeah, I'm against going to all-madden unless a more solid argument is presented. It's not like legend in APF. The D is already solid on all-pro IMO. I've always gotten the feeling that the game cheats on all-madden more than balancing anything out.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I haven't played on All Madden so I'm not sure how well the computer plays. However, I do think that the games on the current settings play pretty damn well. If moving to all Madden is gonna make the A.I. wacky I don't know.

[boxboy99]

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Niners lose again, Niners lose again. The Bucs win 14-10.

Great Defense Twosilks. I think I have the ACQB sophmore jinx.

The game started after a 3 and out by SF. Tampa Bay drove the ball inside the 10 but the scapy Niners defense forced and recovered a Freeman fumble to kill the drive. Glen Coffee was able to break a 60+ yard touchdown run to drawl first blood in the game.

Tampa Bay responded to the challenge by driving again and hitting a wide open Kellen Winslow Jr. for a touchdown. The Niners fight to get in range for a field goal near the end of the half but on a second and long Dawkins blew up a play in the backfield and Carson Palmer took a dumb sack. After a missed field goal Tampa was left with seven second on the clock. Freeman hits a open Calvin Johnson Jr. at the goaline and he falls into the endzone for a 70+ yard touchdown against cover 4 to close out the half 14-7. A stunning and shocking 10 point swing to close the half.

The second half the Niners abandoned the rushing game completely. The teams traded blows but it seemed San Francisco would never get past the cusp of field goal range. Tampa Bay had a couple chances to put the game away but Freeman threw a pick in the red zone and San Francisco got two key fourth down conversions.

Late in the game the Niners had a final chance to drive but after more game mismanagement by coach Boxboy, Davis dropped a wideopen pass on a 4th down which would of put the Gold near the redzone in the last two minutes. Tampa Bay rolled the dice in its own territory on fourth down to move the sticks on a pass play to put the game away.

Again great game twosilks.

I am firing the offensive cordinator after this game. I have weapons on offense but were not putting points up. The Niners playbook on offense is way to basic.

Game in rhetrospect:

-I shouldn't of abandoned the run game which was fairly effective in the first half. I think at 0-5 and with a stagnate offense I was in a situation where I wanted to make a play but not a mistake at the same time.

-I had some extremely shaky game management in this game. Taking sacks that probably knocked me out of field goal range twice.

Hats off to Twosilks again. I am starting to wonder if I will ever win another ACQB game. The competition in the league is sick. I feel like I am playing a pretty good game but can come out on the winning side. I win the turnover battle 3-0. I shut down the running game. I just can't put together 4 quarters on offense or stop the pass to save my life. 0-6 is in my head big time. The schedule doesn't get any easier for me. Top notch league!

[SuperSeahawks]

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Yeah I say keep the settings the way they are now, and I can't wait for next week to put the Rams in their place.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Best league hands down. The competition is real in here.

[jyoung]

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Honestly, I think Pro is the best difficulty setting for this game just because it puts all the players on an even playing level.

What All Pro and All Madden do is unbalance the sliders so CPU players have a huge advantage over human players.

It's tolerable on All Pro, but on All Madden, it's just ridiculous.

Individual player ratings really come into effect on Pro, whereas on the higher difficulty levels, bums can do crazy things because of the slider boosts.

Pro difficulty level + CPU skill set to 100% + player speed threshold to 0 is the best you're going to get out of Madden.

[boxboy99]

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Best league hands down. The competition is real in here.

Except for San Francisco. We're Busch League! or is it Bush League. I never really knew where that saying originated.

[CreatineKasey]

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Honestly, I think Pro is the best difficulty setting for this game just because it puts all the players on an even playing level.

What All Pro and All Madden do is unbalance the sliders so CPU players have a huge advantage over human players.

It's tolerable on All Pro, but on All Madden, it's just ridiculous.

Individual player ratings really come into effect on Pro, whereas on the higher difficulty levels, bums can do crazy things because of the slider boosts.

Pro difficulty level + CPU skill set to 100% + player speed threshold to 0 is the best you're going to get out of Madden.

Yep. The even playing level puts more pressure on user play. I think all-madden level may have more games decided by CPU play and less by users. I'd rather have people getting user picks and manually tackling than the flawless CPU doing it based solely on playcalling. I like playcalling as much as the next sim guy, but I want to get beat by the user.

[jyoung]

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Except for San Francisco. We're Busch League! or is it Bush League. I never really knew where that saying originated.

It came from the old Baseball minor leagues.

Bush league was the original term, but once NASCAR came around people started using it to make fun of NASCAR's actual Busch League, which is a second-tier division sponsored by Busch beer.

[RogueHominid]

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Can you explain more what you mean about the players being on an even playing field on Pro? Does that mean user players get less of a bonus than others?

I had not seen the videos for All Madden gameplay, but I see what you're saying. Core ACQB guys are already clearly against the notion, so that's enough to end the question for me.

I agree that the issue of huge offensive numbers in HUM-HUM games is probably a result of poor play calling. Could we PLEASE do an explicit strategy discussion for stopping the run so the overall quality of the league's defense comes up a bit?

While it seems that the vote is clearly in favor of keeping the difficulty as-is in HUM-HUM games, I'm not satisfied with the way HUM-CPU games are going. I'm tired of seeing such gaudy numbers in those games--it seems like NFL records get set far too often in them, from sacks to receiving yards, to team rushing.

I know owners are not likely to go for this, but I would rather have the few games a year that people can't work out simmed. I've also considered having those games played at the end of the schedule and turning the difficulty to All Madden for those. It seems clear to me that the CPU AI is not sufficiently competitive on All Pro in HUM-CPU games, and the statistics are skewing the league stats in a negative way.

Thoughts on this?

[LBzrule]

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I haven't played on All Madden so I'm not sure how well the computer plays. However, I do think that the games on the current settings play pretty damn well. If moving to all Madden is gonna make the A.I. wacky I don't know.

All Madden = cheap. You think guys are warping for INT's now LOL.