Gran Turismo 5 Discussion

[backbreaker]

re: Gran Turismo 5 Discussion

This was the goal when they announced for online gaming GT HD, what will be realized I don't know, but they are ambitous.

[CaptainZombie]

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that was great

This is hilarious, wish they would have had GT5 in there too.

[backbreaker]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

Kruza

Could one of the features of this GPS functionality and the data logger visualization tech. be driving against real world drivers (ghost)? I'm reading it and it can be uploaded, just like you have Kaz ghost in the time trial demo, do you think for gamers this is where this is heading?

[Kruza]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

Could be.

It seems to me that -- lack of car damage aside -- Digital Polyphony is trying to accomplish the ultimate goal of total realism when it comes to driving on GT5. They're attempting to simulate the real world of experience of driving to the degree in that it would be a legitimate option for an actual racing team to compare what segment times and lap times their car has run on a real world during track testing to that of what segment and lap times are achieved with identical car settings and such while running a similar type of test in GT5.

Of course the mixing, matching and comparing of data collected from both sources (real world info vs. GT5 info) would be invalid if the car's behavior and physics along with the design of the track isn't accurately nailed down to their exact details and specifications. So Digital Polyphony will have their work cut out for them in order to make it these features on GT5 benefit those racing teams and organizations who wish to give them a chance.

Kruza

[backbreaker]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

Could be.

It seems to me that -- lack of car damage aside -- Digital Polyphony is trying to accomplish the ultimate goal of total realism when it comes to driving on GT5. They're attempting to simulate the real world of experience of driving to the degree in that it would be a legitimate option for an actual racing team to compare what segment times and lap times their car has run on a real world during track testing to that of what segment and lap times are achieved with identical car settings and such while running a similar type of test in GT5.

Of course the mixing, matching and comparing of data collected from both sources (real world info vs. GT5 info) would be invalid if the car's behavior and physics along with the design of the track isn't accurately nailed down to their exact details and specifications. So Digital Polyphony will have their work cut out for them in order to make it these features on GT5 benefit those racing teams and organizations who wish to give them a chance.

Kruza

Cool

[Whitesox]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

I don't know if I missed anything in this thread, but wouldn't that also be beneficial to us because it means the track and cars will have to be exactly correct?

[Seymour Scagnetti]

Re: Gran Turimo 5 Data Logger Visualization Technology

Well considering that racing teams will constitute about .001 % of sales maybe having this delay for this is not such a good idea. Yeah i know you'll say if the physics are even tighter then all the better but 90% of gamers aren't gonna notice. PD is outhinking themselves and for myself i won't be buying this at launch out of spite. I will wait for reviews and if thay are not pretty close to perfect and bugs crop up both online and off then they won't be getting my money. I'm willing to bet I'm not the only consumer who will feel this way because these delays are ridiculous.

I really think it's initial laziness (in that they seem to be adding things on the fly like the data whatever and the damage modelling which it's initial exclusion being 1st blamed on car companies not wanting to see thier cars crashed up) and thier arrogant attitude trying to build as much hype as possible rather than meticulously perfecting this game. Unfortunately I think it's going to blow up in thier face sales wise.

It may be a classic case of trying to do too much and end up doing nothing right and forget what made the game successful to begin with.

[Blzer]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

I don't know if I missed anything in this thread, but wouldn't that also be beneficial to us because it means the track and cars will have to be exactly correct?

I'd like to assume they would be going for this anyway, with this feature in or not.

This game is really aiming for perfection, and I think they'll hit it. I just found this feature kind of funny is all... never expected this one.

[backbreaker]

Re: Gran Turimo 5 Data Logger Visualization Technology

Well considering that racing teams will constitute about .001 % of sales maybe having this delay for this is not such a good idea. Yeah i know you'll say if the physics are even tighter then all the better but 90% of gamers aren't gonna notice. PD is outhinking themselves and for myself i won't be buying this at launch out of spite. I will wait for reviews and if thay are not pretty close to perfect and bugs crop up both online and off then they won't be getting my money. I'm willing to bet I'm not the only consumer who will feel this way because these delays are ridiculous.

I really think it's initial laziness (in that they seem to be adding things on the fly like the data whatever and the damage modelling which it's initial exclusion being 1st blamed on car companies not wanting to see thier cars crashed up) and thier arrogant attitude trying to build as much hype as possible rather than meticulously perfecting this game. Unfortunately I think it's going to blow up in thier face sales wise.

It may be a classic case of trying to do too much and end up doing nothing right and forget what made the game successful to begin with.

The game has only received on date in one region Japan and the only place it was delayed is Japan, a date was never announced anywhere else. Nothing wrong with options, regardless who uses them. I don't think it has nothing to do with lazinezz, I mean Super GT, IRL, WRC and NASCAR are all in game as well as a host of other features, I really don't care as long as a they deliver on their vision, I mean these guys have a close relationship with car companies and get unprecendented access and help develope instruments and in some cases design whole cars.

I find it funny that all the people in the Western Hemisphere are upset about a game that was delayed in the Eastern Hemisphere, while a North American date was never giving.

[Kruza]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

I don't know if I missed anything in this thread, but wouldn't that also be beneficial to us because it means the track and cars will have to be exactly correct?

Yeah. People who prefer to experience closer-to-real-world simulation in their racing/driving videogames should and will likely love to play GT5.

But as mniner pointed out before, this feature on GT5 would best helps people on racing teams who take cars out on tracks and make frequent test runs in a car experimenting with various setups. This would be especially helpful to smaller private racing teams that has smaller budgets and access to limited resources. Owners of these smaller racing teams could possibly rely more on GT5 to do most of their testing in preparation for races if the features that puts out all the data and information from the game are as similar to the info provided from their real world counterparts as they need to be.

Kruza

[burnwood]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

This is looking very familiar to what happened with the Duke Nukem Forever team. It recently came out in a story that they were so obsessed with features that they just had to incorporate it in their game. This tsunami of indecisiveness led to a development cycle from 1997 to 2009! It never delivered up to its own hype and ultimately got canned. Maybe Take Two will do something with the rights, but nobody cares about that game since it's been stroked long enough.

I see a similar pattern here. Lots of features, LOTS of features. But will it add up to being something profitable? I seriously doubt it. Helping private race teams is one thing, but making a title that'll hopefully make money is another. LOL at this whole damn GT5 thing. It's so frustrating to watch.

[rspencer86]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 GPS Functionality, 3D confrimed Race your real world Car.

This is looking very familiar to what happened with the Duke Nukem Forever team. It recently came out in a story that they were so obsessed with features that they just had to incorporate it in their game. This tsunami of indecisiveness led to a development cycle from 1997 to 2009! It never delivered up to its own hype and ultimately got canned. Maybe Take Two will do something with the rights, but nobody cares about that game since it's been stroked long enough.

I see a similar pattern here. Lots of features, LOTS of features. But will it add up to being something profitable? I seriously doubt it. Helping private race teams is one thing, but making a title that'll hopefully make money is another. LOL at this whole damn GT5 thing. It's so frustrating to watch.

Agreed. At some point they will have to accept "good enough," because there will always be more features that can be added and more tuning and tweaking that can be done.

Why don't they release the game and then add the extras that will make it a useful tool to private race teams and sell that to them separately? It doesn't make sense to try to be all things to all of your customers.

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Re: Gran Turismo 5 Discussion

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[Kruza]

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Nice video. Graphics look outstanding in the in-car view, and the roaring engine of that GT-R sounded authentic. I don't want to nitpick on the guy who's nice enough to show a video of himself playing GT and uploading it on YouTube, but he should've taken off the training wheels and driven that GT-R without traction control feature and the visual racing line. I wanted to see the professional physics at work without the interference of any car handling handicaps.

Kruza

[Seymour Scagnetti]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 Discussion

BTW what are we expected to have for a career mode or is it the recycled stuff from the previous games? Considering that this game may end up being a launch title for the PS4 (I'm only half kidding and it's becoming less than half every day) they better have some juicy career mode options besides licenses.

Oh yeah and if anybody thinks this game will be ready by Xmas then I have a really juicy sub prime mortgage for you to sign. I'll be happy if it's spring 2011 and that could be a longshot. I'm sure right before release PD will play GTA4 and then want to develop a game mode where you can run down pedestrians as realistically as possible, adding another 6 month delay.