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  • seriousluboy83
    Pro
    • Jan 2008
    • 965

    #1

    2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

    And I scored...Kellen Winslow down the seam...on a post route...the cpu called a man blitz w/press coverage...and they were in a 2-4-5...only thing is K2 wasn't covered by anyone...what whould you call this...A) bad cpu a.i./logic...or B) bad cpu playcalling
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  • RavensFan2k3
    Pro
    • Sep 2003
    • 609

    #2
    Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

    That was just you making a good read. When you blitz, someone is gonna be left open. They planned on getting to your QB, they didnt, so they're left at a disadvantage. The thing is ppl, ppl may say that its bad CPU logic and playcalling, but teams/coahces make playcalling mistakes. They cant be perfect all the time, and if they were, we'd be complaining about that too lol

    how were you in 2nd and 59 anyway?

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    • Victor Fox
      Rookie
      • Nov 2009
      • 208

      #3
      Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

      Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
      how were you in 2nd and 59 anyway?
      Lol, i'm assuming you walked away from the room and it was a result of multiple delay of game penalties? this has happened to me a few times before, and it's always hilarious.
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      • seriousluboy83
        Pro
        • Jan 2008
        • 965

        #4
        Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

        Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
        That was just you making a good read. When you blitz, someone is gonna be left open. They planned on getting to your QB, they didnt, so they're left at a disadvantage. The thing is ppl, ppl may say that its bad CPU logic and playcalling, but teams/coahces make playcalling mistakes. They cant be perfect all the time, and if they were, we'd be complaining about that too lol

        how were you in 2nd and 59 anyway?

        My thing is no one was covering him from the get-go...I can understand K2 just beating his man but soon as he came off the line he was wide-open...I'm not gonna call a blitz that leaves ppl being uncovered...that's why I hate the engage eight/banzi blitz plays so much cause I believe they should be man blitzes not zone...I was 2nd and 59 becuz my daughters unpaused my game and i kept getting delay of game penalties...i didn't know it was unpaused cause i was watching t.v.
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        • RavensFan2k3
          Pro
          • Sep 2003
          • 609

          #5
          Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

          Originally posted by seriousluboy83
          My thing is no one was covering him from the get-go...I can understand K2 just beating his man but soon as he came off the line he was wide-open...I'm not gonna call a blitz that leaves ppl being uncovered...that's why I hate the engage eight/banzi blitz plays so much cause I believe they should be man blitzes not zone...
          How times does that happen IRL? It happens alot. It's almost impossible to call a blitz and have everyone covered. It was a bad play to pick in that situation, but it can happen so its not unrealistic

          I was 2nd and 59 becuz my daughters unpaused my game and i kept getting delay of game penalties...i didn't know it was unpaused cause i was watching t.v.
          Oh ok lol

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          • NorrinRadd12
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 341

            #6
            Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

            Bad play calling, which I guess could be the same as bad CPU logic. They call way too many blitzes with way too many guys coming and the TE is wide open immediately more often than he should be. If you have a fast TE like Winslow he won't be caught.

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            • oneamongthefence
              Nothing to see here folks
              • Apr 2009
              • 5683

              #7
              Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

              The a.I. almost always send a massive blitz in the situation. inside the twenty on both sides of the field the playcalling is usually pretty predictable.
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              • Rashad19
                Pro
                • May 2008
                • 525

                #8
                Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                Guys the deep rooted problem here is the fact that blitzing in madden does not cause disruption like it does in real life. It is a known fact that when you blitz you expose your defense to getting beat.

                Most D-Coord's blitz to:

                1) Rush the QB into throwing to his hot read so the D can come up and make a tackle.

                2) Force errant throws

                3) Sack the QB

                4) Impede the QB's vision forcing him to hold the ball longer than expected which throws off the timing of the play which leads to incompletions or passes defensed


                In Madden 10 if your blitz doesn't get home your going to get torched. I've always felt blitzing should force more errant throws that hit the ground and certain icons should not appear negating your ability to throw to a receiver who the QB cannot see. These two small changes would add a level of realism to blitzing in Madden IMHO.

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                • DBroncosRule
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                  I can guarntee you would never see a blitz on more than 25 to gain in real life.. but I guess 2nd and 59 is so ridiculous that it would never happen in real life anyways.... Gotta love winslow though.

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                  • lofeazy
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 586

                    #10
                    Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                    I think it was great call.But the CPU pick the wrong defense play.( I know there a blitz with only the SS back in a zone while the DB"s are in man coverage.)


                    I also agree with what Rashad19 said.

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                    • seriousluboy83
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 965

                      #11
                      Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                      Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                      How times does that happen IRL? It happens alot. It's almost impossible to call a blitz and have everyone covered. It was a bad play to pick in that situation, but it can happen so its not unrealistic
                      Oh ok lol


                      IMO...if you call a man blitz and everyone doesn't have a man then you deserve to be beat...and that's my point...they called a play where every reciever wasn't covered...if you call a man blitz every reciever has to be covered...i don't mind that the defender can be beat but not to even assign a man to Winslow was ********...that's the base of my thread
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                      • RavensFan2k3
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 609

                        #12
                        Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                        Originally posted by seriousluboy83
                        IMO...if you call a man blitz and everyone doesn't have a man then you deserve to be beat...and that's my point...they called a play where every reciever wasn't covered...if you call a man blitz every reciever has to be covered...i don't mind that the defender can be beat but not to even assign a man to Winslow was ********...that's the base of my thread
                        Ok, so there isnt a problem. They called a bad play, they were beat the end. It can happen in real life, it happens...I play football, I know it happens, so whats the problem?

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                        • Palo20
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3908

                          #13
                          Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                          Originally posted by seriousluboy83
                          IMO...if you call a man blitz and everyone doesn't have a man then you deserve to be beat...and that's my point...they called a play where every reciever wasn't covered...if you call a man blitz every reciever has to be covered...i don't mind that the defender can be beat but not to even assign a man to Winslow was ********...that's the base of my thread
                          The game needs better blitzes. Also, just different blitzes. Every team in the game runs the same exact plays. I'm guessing they ran Under Smoke: 7 Man Blitz with one guy uncovered?
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                          • KBLover
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 12172

                            #14
                            Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                            Originally posted by Rashad19
                            In Madden 10 if your blitz doesn't get home your going to get torched. I've always felt blitzing should force more errant throws that hit the ground and certain icons should not appear negating your ability to throw to a receiver who the QB cannot see. These two small changes would add a level of realism to blitzing in Madden IMHO.
                            Sounds interesting - that would change the dynamics for sure.

                            Blitzing is so feast or famine - sometimes you get it picked up ridiculously well - and other times guys just "forget" who to block, which then is like "U gotz .5 secs 2 thro, nOOb!"
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                            • NorrinRadd12
                              Rookie
                              • May 2009
                              • 341

                              #15
                              Re: 2nd And 59 On My Own 1yd Line

                              Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                              Ok, so there isnt a problem. They called a bad play, they were beat the end. It can happen in real life, it happens...I play football, I know it happens, so whats the problem?
                              There is a problem because it happens too often. My TEs are running up the seam uncovered 3-5 times a game. If you have a fast one take it for a huge gain or score.

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