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  • S2S
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    • Apr 2009
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    #31
    Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

    Knight is spot on. People talk about Pete Rose diving into bases. Cobb was a beast you didn't want to see diving towards you on the basepaths. Not to mention, I think Cobb pulled a spectator out of the stands one time and hit him. :/



    On May 15, 1912, Cobb assaulted a heckler, Claude Lueker, in the stands in New York. Lueker and Cobb had traded insults with each other through the first three innings, and the situation climaxed when Lueker called Cobb a "half-******." Cobb, in his discussion of the incident (My Life in Baseball: The True Record, Ty Cobb and Al Stump, Doubleday, 1961, pp. 131–135), avoided such explicit words, but alluded to it by saying the man was "reflecting on my mother's color and morals." Cobb stated in the book that he warned Highlanders manager Harry Wolverton that if something wasn't done about the man, there would be trouble. No action was taken. At the end of the sixth inning, after being challenged by teammates Sam Crawford and Jim Delahanty to do something about it, Cobb climbed into the stands and attacked Lueker, who it turns out was handicapped (he had lost all of one hand and three fingers on his other hand in an industrial accident). When onlookers shouted at Cobb to stop because the man had no hands, Cobb reportedly replied, "I don't care if he has no feet!"<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-42>[43]</SUP>
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    <SUP>He was a beast. </SUP>

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    • Scottdau
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      • Feb 2003
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      #32
      Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

      OK that is funny. GI Joe.

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      • 500Feet
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        • Jan 2010
        • 282

        #33
        Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

        Originally posted by S2S
        On May 15, 1912, Cobb assaulted a heckler, Claude Lueker, in the stands in New York. Lueker and Cobb had traded insults with each other through the first three innings, and the situation climaxed when Lueker called Cobb a "half-******." Cobb, in his discussion of the incident (My Life in Baseball: The True Record, Ty Cobb and Al Stump, Doubleday, 1961, pp. 131–135), avoided such explicit words, but alluded to it by saying the man was "reflecting on my mother's color and morals." Cobb stated in the book that he warned Highlanders manager Harry Wolverton that if something wasn't done about the man, there would be trouble. No action was taken. At the end of the sixth inning, after being challenged by teammates Sam Crawford and Jim Delahanty to do something about it, Cobb climbed into the stands and attacked Lueker, who it turns out was handicapped (he had lost all of one hand and three fingers on his other hand in an industrial accident). When onlookers shouted at Cobb to stop because the man had no hands, Cobb reportedly replied, "I don't care if he has no feet!"<SUP id=cite_ref-42 class=reference>[43]</SUP>
        <SUP></SUP>
        <SUP></SUP>
        <SUP>He was a beast. </SUP>
        This is a great story. It was the best thing I've read in a while on a forum.

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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #34
          Re: GI: Joe Mauer The Show inteview

          Originally posted by Knight165
          Sorry...NO WAY.

          You may hate him...but this belongs to Ty Cobb....
          .366 lifetime BA(over 24 seasons!)
          11 batting titles(including losing in '22 with a .401 average!!)
          Led the league in hits 8 times...
          Had over 200 hits 8 times(156 games per season...not 162)
          and after getting the regular starting position...his 3rd season never batted under .325(until his final season... .323)
          Batted over .400three times(including the record .420).... .390..... .382.... 380+ quite a few times....uggh...do I need to go on?
          Oh...yeah....was stealing 70/80/90 bases regularly.
          The man was a MACHINE.

          M.K.
          Knight165
          I said right now currently playing he is the best in all of baseball. For being a contact hitter. And can be argued as in a small group of best of all time.

          Never said the numero uno.

          Just so we are clear.
          Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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          • Scottdau
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            • Feb 2003
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            #35
            Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

            I don't know I think Ich is still the best hitter ever. Even over the greats. The game has changed so much with having relief pitchers now. And Ich is just a flat out stud with the bat.

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            • EnigmaNemesis
              Animal Liberation
              • Apr 2006
              • 12216

              #36
              Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

              Originally posted by Scottdau
              I don't know I think Ich is still the best hitter ever. Even over the greats. The game has changed so much with having relief pitchers now. And Ich is just a flat out stud with the bat.

              And one could argue the talent difference of back then to now. Advanced scouting to get the best players you can find, performance enhancements, pitch types, etc etc.
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              • Scottdau
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                #37
                Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                And one could argue the talent difference of back then to now. Advanced scouting to get the best players you can find, performance enhancements, pitch types, etc etc.
                Well if we were talking about this time span I would take Ich, and if we were in Cobb time span I would take Ich still. So I guess you have my answer.

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                • EnigmaNemesis
                  Animal Liberation
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 12216

                  #38
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                  Originally posted by Scottdau
                  Well if we were talking about this time span I would take Ich, and if we were in Cobb time span I would take Ich still. So I guess you have my answer.

                  That is my point. The competition is more fierce now compared to them. Due to scouting and advanced performance enhancements, etc etc.
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                  • Scottdau
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #39
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                    That is my point. The competition is more fierce now compared to them. Due to scouting and advanced performance enhancements, etc etc.
                    I know I am agreeing, I just quoted you.

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #40
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                      Originally posted by Scottdau
                      I don't know I think Ich is still the best hitter ever. Even over the greats. The game has changed so much with having relief pitchers now. And Ich is just a flat out stud with the bat.
                      YOUR MIND!...you're...out of it!
                      (I was wondering if someone would bring up the "pitching" crock! )
                      Forget RP'ers.....look up the 100 best ERA of all time..and if you're a WHIP fan....the top 100 WHIP of all time(you'll probably only recognize 4 names...Rivera,Hoffman, Santana and Pedro.(okay..you'll recognize Seaver)


                      Enigma...you're right...I thought you said.."he could be argued as THE best ever"...not what you did say.


                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • Scottdau
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                        #41
                        Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                        Originally posted by Knight165
                        YOUR MIND!...you're...out of it!
                        (I was wondering if someone would bring up the "pitching" crock! )
                        Forget RP'ers.....look up the 100 best ERA of all time..and if you're a WHIP fan....the top 100 WHIP of all time(you'll probably only recognize 4 names...Rivera,Hoffman, Santana and Pedro.(okay..you'll recognize Seaver)


                        Enigma...you're right...I thought you said.."he could be argued as THE best ever"...not what you did say.


                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        I still disagree, pitchers were not as good as they are today. You put Santana or Tim L. back in those times and they would be so much better than any pitcher out there. Same with a hitter, you put AP out there and he would be the best hitter in the game. It is just how it is. You can take that with most sports today. Because players are stronger and faster. Now I am not talking about comparing the 70's player too a 90's player. That is not that big of a span. I am talking about a player in the 1900's compared to a player in the 2000's.

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                        • Scottdau
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                          #42
                          Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                          But I will say this. For his time there was no one better than Cobbs, but if Ich could go back in time. I guarantee you he would blow that guy out of the water.

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                          • indigence
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            #43
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                            The argument always made when comparing the golden age to contemporary players is how good would Ty Cobbs be today if he had the same access to trainers and modern equipment. Would he be just as effective as he was back then? Who knows.

                            Saying if you transplant Mickey Mantle to today he wouldn't make a major league roster is similar to saying if you transplanted Ernest Hemmingway to today he would suck as an author and wouldn't be able to get anything published.

                            This doesn't mean that either of these individuals suck at their profession, all it means is that their professions has evolved just as we would expect. To say a player in one era is "better" than the other is very relative and impossible to answer.
                            “A man may be an heretic in the truth, and if he believes things only because his pastor says so, or the assembly so determines, without knowing other reason, though his belief be true, yet the very truth he holds becomes his heresy.”
                            John Milton

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                            • Scottdau
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                              #44
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                              Originally posted by indigence
                              The argument always made when comparing the golden age to contemporary players is how good would Ty Cobbs be today if he had the same access to trainers and modern equipment. Would he be just as effective as he was back then? Who knows.

                              Saying if you transplant Mickey Mantle to today he wouldn't make a major league roster is similar to saying if you transplanted Ernest Hemmingway to today he would suck as an author and wouldn't be able to get anything published.

                              This doesn't mean that either of these individuals suck at their profession, all it means is that their professions has evolved just as we would expect. To say a player in one era is "better" than the other is very relative and impossible to answer.
                              But I am talking about the 1910 player with a 2010 player. If Cobb did have all that resources he probably would be even a greater player than he was.

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                              • Scottdau
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                                #45
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

                                Originally posted by indigence
                                The argument always made when comparing the golden age to contemporary players is how good would Ty Cobbs be today if he had the same access to trainers and modern equipment. Would he be just as effective as he was back then? Who knows.

                                Saying if you transplant Mickey Mantle to today he wouldn't make a major league roster is similar to saying if you transplanted Ernest Hemmingway to today he would suck as an author and wouldn't be able to get anything published.

                                This doesn't mean that either of these individuals suck at their profession, all it means is that their professions has evolved just as we would expect. To say a player in one era is "better" than the other is very relative and impossible to answer.
                                Two words.

                                Time Machine.

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