MLB '10: The Show - Joe Mauer Interview (Gameinformer)

[Scottdau]

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The argument always made when comparing the golden age to contemporary players is how good would Ty Cobbs be today if he had the same access to trainers and modern equipment. Would he be just as effective as he was back then? Who knows.

Saying if you transplant Mickey Mantle to today he wouldn't make a major league roster is similar to saying if you transplanted Ernest Hemmingway to today he would suck as an author and wouldn't be able to get anything published.

This doesn't mean that either of these individuals suck at their profession, all it means is that their professions has evolved just as we would expect. To say a player in one era is "better" than the other is very relative and impossible to answer.

All kidding aside I do agree with. But I am talking about taking Ich and putting him back there as is. But it still doesn't change the fact for his time span Cobb was the best ever.

[cnh2os84]

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Joe Mauer's name hasn't come up for like 30 posts, this is a thread about his interview right?!?!??!

[metsman8669]

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So hard to compare players from different eras. Too many variables at play.

[Jdurg]

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But I will say this. For his time there was no one better than Cobbs, but if Ich could go back in time. I guarantee you he would blow that guy out of the water.

Heh. Put Ichiro back in Cobb's time, or Cobb up in the modern era, and Ty Cobb would probably rain down some racial epithets towards Ichiro, jab him with his spiked cleats, threaten his life, and harass him and his family until they just quit. That's the type of human being Cobb was. A great baseball player, no doubt, but one of the worst human beings ever.

[metsman8669]

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Joe Mauer's name hasn't come up for like 30 posts, this is a thread about his interview right?!?!??!

Joe Mauer

[rudyjuly2]

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Give me Ichiro any day. Nine consecutive 200 hit seasons, amazing defense and speed like no other. I will take Ichiro over Mauer.

You can have him. I prefer guys that drive in runs over guys that swing like a girl. Mauer's OPS is 80 points higher than Ichiro and his career batting average is only 6 points less.

[Jdurg]

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You can have him. I prefer guys that drive in runs over guys that swing like a girl. Mauer's OPS is 80 points higher than Ichiro and his career batting average is only 6 points less.

And since he's a catcher, his career will be about 6 or 7 years less. RIGHT NOW, I would take Mauer over Ichiro simply because of the age factor. In terms of when their careers are over, Ichiro will have better numbers.

[rudyjuly2]

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And since he's a catcher, his career will be about 6 or 7 years less. RIGHT NOW, I would take Mauer over Ichiro simply because of the age factor. In terms of when their careers are over, Ichiro will have better numbers.

But that's the crazy thing about baseball numbers today. There are a million of them. And the one everyone loves right now is OPS and I would bet strongly that Mauer's OPS will be a lot better when both career's are finished.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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And since he's a catcher, his career will be about 6 or 7 years less. RIGHT NOW, I would take Mauer over Ichiro simply because of the age factor. In terms of when their careers are over, Ichiro will have better numbers.

I disagree with this. Mauer will be moved to first base to keep his bat. There was talk a while back about moving his position because of how big he is getting.

[Chef Matt]

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I disagree with this. Mauer will be moved to first base to keep his bat. There was talk a while back about moving his position because of how big he is getting.

That's what she said...

I could see this happening but, he's still got some years behind the plate.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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That's what she said...

I could see this happening but, he's still got some years behind the plate.

LOL.....yeah I agree he will be catching for a few years yet. My gut tells me when Morneau leaves he'll step into the role of 1b.

[RJAfan6]

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If Ichiro was better than Mauer, he'd be on the cover...and no reason to be sorry.

are you kidding? Ichiro is the only player in history to have at least 200 hits in all of his first 9 years playing. Now honestly do you think mauer is a better hitter? He is probably the best overall player cuz he hits for power, contact and controls the defense and pitchers. Ichiro is just an outfielder with one of the best contact bats in the history of the game. And he probably the only player who cant be considere for 'roids cuz hes hit like what 15 dingers over those 9 yrs. all he can do is hit singles,dbls, and triples with the occasional time where he gets really good contact enough to go over the fence. And he probably has the strongest arm for a guy his age and speed like none other again for a guy at his age.

[GoBucs09]

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Joe Mauer's name hasn't come up for like 30 posts, this is a thread about his interview right?!?!??!

This Thread Is Freaking Awesome!


Is Ichiro vs Cobb a better comparison than Ichiro vs Mauer?

How come we don't have goofy nicknames in baseball anymore? Also on a lighter note, not enough people talk with a New York accent! Oh right the Dodgers and Giants moved.

[TribeFan80]

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are you kidding? Ichiro is the only player in history to have at least 200 hits in all of his first 9 years playing. Now honestly do you think mauer is a better hitter? He is probably the best overall player cuz he hits for power, contact and controls the defense and pitchers. Ichiro is just an outfielder with one of the best contact bats in the history of the game. And he probably the only player who cant be considere for 'roids cuz hes hit like what 15 dingers over those 9 yrs. all he can do is hit singles,dbls, and triples with the occasional time where he gets really good contact enough to go over the fence. And he probably has the strongest arm for a guy his age and speed like none other again for a guy at his age.

Nope I was not kidding.

And after re-looking :wink: at my post comparing the 09 stats I conclude that......Mauer is the better hitter.

[Jdurg]

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are you kidding? Ichiro is the only player in history to have at least 200 hits in all of his first 9 years playing. Now honestly do you think mauer is a better hitter? He is probably the best overall player cuz he hits for power, contact and controls the defense and pitchers. Ichiro is just an outfielder with one of the best contact bats in the history of the game. And he probably the only player who cant be considere for 'roids cuz hes hit like what 15 dingers over those 9 yrs. all he can do is hit singles,dbls, and triples with the occasional time where he gets really good contact enough to go over the fence. And he probably has the strongest arm for a guy his age and speed like none other again for a guy at his age.

The thing with Ichiro is that when the time is right, he will try and hit homeruns and you can see him do it. (His swing looks completely different when he is trying to go deep). The thing is, when he does try to go for the longball he's generally able to do it. He just knows that when you spend all your time trying to go deep, you cut down severely on your number of total basehits. When Ichiro hits a homerun, I wouldn't consider him "lucky" for doing so. For just about all baseball players, however, I would say they are lucky.

I'm a Yankees fan, so it is odd for me to be giving praise to other ballplayers. Over the course of their careers, I still think Ichiro will wind up putting out more impressive numbers. Right now, as in this season and next season etc., I would want Mauer since he is younger and has more time ahead of him. But the position of catcher will really catch up with him and by the time they push him out to DH or 1B, his abilities will have already dropped pretty significantly from where they are now. (Which is INSANELY high).

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing that really makes this comparison pretty pointless and meaningless. Just about everyone here forgets that Mauer is a middle of the lineup hitter while Ichiro is stricly a leadoff hitter. What is important for a leadoff hitter is FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR different from what is important for a middle of the lineup hitter. Because of where they hit in the lineup, it alters what is more important for them to do. So the better comparison is not to compare players of completely different positions and completely different spots in the lineup, but to compare the players to others in their position and place in the lineup. As a result, you really can't make ANY solid arguments for/against either of the players in this comparison. It's akin to debating who's better; Mariano Rivera or Albert Pujols.