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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #91
    Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

    Originally posted by kjcheezhead
    Normally, that's good advice. However, there isn't too many ways you can show the NFL you disapprove of there exclusive deals. Purchasing this game is my small way of sending them that message. If I get a good football game in the first year, so much the better.

    Also, go back and try to play one of the first Call of Duty games or the first Assassins Creed or even (god forbid), madden and then play the sequels. If the game gets support and solid feedback, the game will improve.
    Well, it's good advice for my family and I because we don't have disposable money to throw around. My wife has been recently unemployed and we are starting to watch our pennies. Plus, it doesn't help that she is an unemployed Accountant. She watches every penny that is made and spent.

    I'm rooting for BB to do well, though and will be cheering on the sideline at this time.

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    • Skyboxer
      Donny Baseball!
      • Jul 2002
      • 20302

      #92
      Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

      Hopefully some of the glaring AI issues can be worked out. I've now switched to certain buy to a probably buy.
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      • FootballDetails
        Banned
        • May 2008
        • 1177

        #93
        Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

        Originally posted by Skyboxer
        I've now switched to certain buy to a probably buy.

        I'm still at automatic buy unless some unedited gameplay video does something to change my mind.

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        • HesTheCoach
          Rookie
          • Dec 2009
          • 180

          #94
          Re: Backbreaker Dev Diary #1

          Originally posted by Dudd
          AI looks like it needs some work, the pass defenders don't even attempt to make a play on the ball unless it's thrown right at them. I was hoping that with a full physics engine it would make things like that easier, just set both the defender and a receiver into pass catch mode and let the physics simulate the rest, but defenders stopping and moving away from the catch is a worrying sign. It's especially horrible at the 3:15 mark, it looks like both defenders try to move to the closest point on the ball's path despite the fact that the ball would be long gone by the time they reach that point, and it opens up tons of separation for the receiver. All the pretty tackling in the world is for naught if players don't accurately react to what is happening around them.
          That's my concern as well. The game looks great except for the passing game. That part of the game looks just like Madden, which isn't a good thing.

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          • adamgod8
            Rookie
            • Apr 2009
            • 449

            #95
            Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

            This game is only $50 too.

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            • ZoneBlitz
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1402

              #96
              Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

              All games have pros and cons. At this point, Backbreaker looks great. I can't wait to taste the freedom of a football game that is closer to reality. Madden's reign of suppression and glacial, incremental barely perceptible improvements will soon be over.
              When the game is on the line, winners want the ball.

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              • turftickler
                Rookie
                • Feb 2008
                • 398

                #97
                Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                Originally posted by roadman
                Well, it's good advice for my family and I because we don't have disposable money to throw around. My wife has been recently unemployed and we are starting to watch our pennies. Plus, it doesn't help that she is an unemployed Accountant. She watches every penny that is made and spent.

                I'm rooting for BB to do well, though and will be cheering on the sideline at this time.
                I feel your pain bro. I'm back in college after 18 years and neither me nor my wife have a full-time job, only part-time. I used to be a mechanic, but now I am a Network Administrator/Computer Programmer. I already put money away for Backbreaker by trading in some of my old games. Otherwise, I would be on the sidelines with you.
                http://truesimgamers.informe.com/forum/

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                • Jimixiii
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 348

                  #98
                  Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                  Was the warping in the clip posted??? Cuz I didn't see any..?

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #99
                    Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                    Originally posted by turftickler
                    I feel your pain bro. I'm back in college after 18 years and neither me nor my wife have a full-time job, only part-time. I used to be a mechanic, but now I am a Network Administrator/Computer Programmer. I already put money away for Backbreaker by trading in some of my old games. Otherwise, I would be on the sidelines with you.
                    Thanks.

                    I wish I could use the same philosophy you are.(trading old games in) I'm afraid if I did the QB "sneak", I would get sacked. lol.

                    I'm hoping my May she finds employment.

                    In the meantime, go BB.

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                    • kjcheezhead
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 3118

                      #100
                      Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      Well, it's good advice for my family and I because we don't have disposable money to throw around. My wife has been recently unemployed and we are starting to watch our pennies. Plus, it doesn't help that she is an unemployed Accountant. She watches every penny that is made and spent.

                      I'm rooting for BB to do well, though and will be cheering on the sideline at this time.
                      I can understand that. I'm in the ultrasound business and people are making babies more than ever, but I've been in that situation myself more than a few times. I only meant that purchasing this game could provide future benefits or opportunites that football gamers rarely see, unlike average video game purchases.

                      Good luck to your family. Things will improve again, they always do sooner or later.
                      Last edited by kjcheezhead; 02-07-2010, 12:36 PM.

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                      • DickDalewood

                        #101
                        Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                        It still just feels like a tech demo to me. No weather elements to speak of so far, ZERO bodies on the sidelines, and as of yet, no real presentation either.

                        To me, they put together this great physics engine, then built a shallow game around it to show it off, and are hoping enough people take notice for another company to buy up the rights.

                        Again, the physics looks great, but as a game, it looks very very incomplete.

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                        • eXperiment63
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 3077

                          #102
                          Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                          Dude... It's a dev diary for crying out loud. It's meant to show off what they think is great about it. It's the first one, and they have another 2.5-3 months to put finishing touches on the game.

                          As far as people being amazed at the right-stick running control... Does nobody here remember that you could do all that in 2K5? Rotate the stick and you spin, move it side to side and you juke.

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                          • Tito78
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 620

                            #103
                            Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                            Originally posted by JayBee74
                            You got all that from this video? They show some sacks and the pass blocking is horrendous?
                            I not upset about the sacks. The problem is the pocket: the defensive ends instead of getting up the field just engage the offensive tackles while shuffling their feet.

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                            • Afrikan
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1462

                              #104
                              Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                              Originally posted by DickDalewood
                              It still just feels like a tech demo to me. No weather elements to speak of so far, ZERO bodies on the sidelines, and as of yet, no real presentation either.

                              To me, they put together this great physics engine, then built a shallow game around it to show it off, and are hoping enough people take notice for another company to buy up the rights.

                              Again, the physics looks great, but as a game, it looks very very incomplete.
                              I think you are just thinking too much....you shouldn't presume... there are picks that show weather (rain), and I believe the devs have confirmed weather...

                              as far as zero bodies on the side lines.... I think it has to do with their intention to have a true physics on the field.....so it was either having players and coaches on the sidelines that don't react realistically to sideline hits or just don't have them at all...

                              if they are perfectionist, like they seem, then they probably went with the latter for now.... maybe the next version will sideline stuff....again this is their first game, and they are already pushing these next gen systems pretty far with the rendering tech, not just physics.

                              here is a link to an interview about what they are doing with the graphics, pretty amazing..

                              also there are short video clips of each effect taking place.

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                              • DaveDQ
                                13
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 7664

                                #105
                                Re: Backbreaker Developer Diary Video #1 (Gamespot)

                                Originally posted by DickDalewood
                                It still just feels like a tech demo to me. No weather elements to speak of so far, ZERO bodies on the sidelines, and as of yet, no real presentation either.

                                To me, they put together this great physics engine, then built a shallow game around it to show it off, and are hoping enough people take notice for another company to buy up the rights.

                                Again, the physics looks great, but as a game, it looks very very incomplete.
                                That I will agree with. The stands do look nice, but you are right, there is v ery little atmosphere. I mean, at leas APF had The Beast..lol That's something that could eventually hurt the game.

                                If there's no style or substance to the presentation and atmosphere, it will indeed be an experience in seeing how this new engine works and then limited to that.
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