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  • wsu_gb23
    Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 1641

    #211
    Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

    To add to the conversation, I like the idea of having realistic hockey with realistic defense, but we would probably have to play 20 min periods just like the real NHL to see accurate goal totals.

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    • Vikes1
      Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
      • May 2008
      • 4102

      #212
      Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

      Originally posted by wsu_gb23
      To add to the conversation, I like the idea of having realistic hockey with realistic defense, but we would probably have to play 20 min periods just like the real NHL to see accurate goal totals.
      Yep, that would most likely be the hangup about TRULY realistic gameplay. I don't think you could expect truly realistic play/results/stats, and play with 5-10 minute periods. If we're talking about near absolutes, it would have to be one or the other imo.

      For myself...I'm not too sure I'd choose to play 20 minute periods, along with an 82 game season...plus playoffs. Now if we were given the choice of say a 41 game season, then ya...I'd be very interested.

      In my little dream world, you'd have a "Simulation slider". That would regulate the aggression towards the puck of the AI controlled players, User/Cpu. And the option of season length to correspond with the sim slider. Just a thought.
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      • matt2053
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        • Feb 2009
        • 315

        #213
        Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

        Originally posted by wsu_gb23
        To add to the conversation, I like the idea of having realistic hockey with realistic defense, but we would probably have to play 20 min periods just like the real NHL to see accurate goal totals.
        I've been wanting that in a hockey game my entire life.....

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        • Qb
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 8798

          #214
          Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

          FWIW, I'm playing 15 minute periods with real-time penalty length right now and getting just about spot-on stats.

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          • CS10029
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            • Feb 2004
            • 4616

            #215
            Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Qb
            FWIW, I'm playing 15 minute periods with real-time penalty length right now and getting just about spot-on stats.
            What's your setup (ie. Options)?
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            • plaidchuck
              Pro
              • Aug 2009
              • 893

              #216
              Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

              I dunno but for me it seems like the honey moon is ending for these updates.. seeing low CPU shots again, predictable AI, robo goalies.. etc.. I'm not even a big stats nazi but it just irks me to see shots being like 30-9 in my favor with the CPU having 2 goals even when I win..

              I think I am gonna have to start from scratch on a slider set or something and see how that goes..
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              • MizzouRah
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 8574

                #217
                Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                I'm playing the playoff mode with the teams as they would be ranked in the playoffs if they started today.. except I took out Calgary and put my Blues in the 8th spot.

                Beat SJ the first two games 1-0 as Mason is playing like he's never played in any regular game for me in goal..

                The tuner is great though.. space is non-exhistant like it should be against the Sharks.. and the puck takes all sorts of odd bounces. I struggle to get any decent shot that isn't deflected by a stick, body part, etc...

                Add the excellent commentary, having my own music play, and the playoff atmostphere and I'd have to say that NHL 10 is my favorite console sports game of all time.

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                • Alter_Schwede
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 26

                  #218
                  Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by plaidchuck
                  I dunno but for me it seems like the honey moon is ending for these updates.. seeing low CPU shots again, predictable AI, robo goalies.. etc.. I'm not even a big stats nazi but it just irks me to see shots being like 30-9 in my favor with the CPU having 2 goals even when I win..

                  I think I am gonna have to start from scratch on a slider set or something and see how that goes..
                  Same to me.
                  What I did, is to decrease my "Player Acceleration".
                  In my opinion the easiest way to give back an advantage to the AI-players.
                  If you do this (only by perhaps 1 step), I would be very surprised, if you still would have the same Stats (30-9).
                  For me the Player Acceleration is one of the most important Sliders!

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                  • Qb
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 8798

                    #219
                    Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by CS10029
                    What's your setup (ie. Options)?
                    I just went to Superstar over the weekend, so I'm still fine tuning them after moving up, but they're mostly the same as the ones I posted in the "Hardcore Passing" thread. I think the key ones are puck control @ zero (a must for this style!), acceleration @ zero (w/ gamespeed @ 1), pass INTs maxed, and the big one, using manual passing.

                    You just can't dominate the puck on manual passing like you can with pass assist, so it evens out possession somewhat and leads to some turnovers if you try to force the breakout. But it's weird because at the same time, I feel I can do more with manual passing, even with the errors it produces. I'm now at the point where I really dislike playing with pass assist, like online versus, because I actually feel limited in what passes I can make.

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                    • Vikes1
                      Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
                      • May 2008
                      • 4102

                      #220
                      Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Qb
                      I'm now at the point where I really dislike playing with pass assist, like online versus, because I actually feel limited in what passes I can make.
                      Theres no going back for me either Qb.

                      Although I really can't afford the scoring chances I miss because of the manual passing. Such as a player of mine out in front looking at a half open net...but the pass is off a bit, and he has to reach for it. And by then, the goalie has recovered. But man...when you do nail it, nothing feels better.

                      And yeah, it is kinda weird that when I play vs my son on normal, the number of passes I miss fire on.
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                      • ChubbyBanana
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                        • Oct 2003
                        • 7071

                        #221
                        Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                        After reading these impressions I think it's time for me to give NHL 10 a second chance.
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                        • JayhawkerStL
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 3644

                          #222
                          Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by phillyfan23
                          I really don't think you can say "most" goals in the league are deflections/rebounds, let alone 90 percent. There are still a huge number of clean slapshots and clean wristers/snapshots that occur these days.

                          I actually think the goals in real life are balanced .

                          just from tonights game flyers at the devils.

                          first goal devils scored was a wrister that went thru 5 hole
                          their 2nd goal was a deflection off a flyer

                          all 3 flyers goals were wrist shots top shelf that beat brodeur clean.
                          Are you using auto aiming when you play? Because I use auto-aim, mostly because
                          I am just not very good. But I score about half of my goals on clean shots. I think a lot of people have trouble nailing clean shots because they don't aim very well.

                          When I play online, I have to score almost exclusively on rebounds and deflections.

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                          • Splitter77
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 2820

                            #223
                            Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by plaidchuck
                            I dunno but for me it seems like the honey moon is ending for these updates.. seeing low CPU shots again, predictable AI, robo goalies.. etc.. I'm not even a big stats nazi but it just irks me to see shots being like 30-9 in my favor with the CPU having 2 goals even when I win..

                            I think I am gonna have to start from scratch on a slider set or something and see how that goes..
                            as soon as tuner 1.03 came out, I put all the sliders I had adjusted back to default. I now play on all-star, everything default. The only adjustments i made was game speed to 0, and i lowered pass speeds 1 level.

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                            • Vikes1
                              Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
                              • May 2008
                              • 4102

                              #224
                              Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the tuner sets. And they have made some nice differences. And the support for the game has been pretty impressive.

                              However, imo...nothing beats a good ole patch to fix a few things. And I'm kinda getting the impression that we may very well not see a second patch for NHL '10'. You'd think if a patch #2 was in the works...we'd have heard something of it by now.

                              I remember Jason saying that for instance, the cpu's habit of passing the puck back to the point, forgoing an open shot, would take a patch to correct. Personally it'd be nice to see the cpu be far more aggressive towards the User puck carrier when headed up ice. Rather than just allowing you to just skate right on by. It'd be nice to see this at least on the higher levels. Point being...it'd be great to have some of the remaining issues addressed with a second patch.

                              Maybe I missed it. Has there been any rumors of a patch #2?
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                              • MizzouRah
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 8574

                                #225
                                Re: NHL 10 Roster Update 7 and Tuner Set 1.03 Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by jayhawker
                                Are you using auto aiming when you play? Because I use auto-aim, mostly because
                                I am just not very good. But I score about half of my goals on clean shots. I think a lot of people have trouble nailing clean shots because they don't aim very well.

                                When I play online, I have to score almost exclusively on rebounds and deflections.
                                What he said... and I still use manual.. mainly because I like to take all the credit for my goals!

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