NBA Live Needs the Dream

[Dantecamp21]

NBA Live 10 is a very enjoyable and solid basketball game. Flawed, like almost any sports game in the market, but ultimately fun.

I hope they build on the foundation that was laid this year instead of going back to the drawing board.

[kapdakid]

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I have both games, and there are things I love in both of them. I think with extra animations that 2k have they give you more WOW type of moments. Also, 2k's association is great. But, Live as far as gameplay, graphics and atmosphere is a more enjoyable game IMO. It drives me nuts trying to break someone off the dribble in 2k, and I'm doing something I had no business doing because the controls are outdated and ridiculous. I just think that with the bad showing that Live has had the past couple of years no one wants to give the game a shot anymore. But, anyone that has actually sat down and gave Live a real chance they would understand how good the game is, anyone who hasn't played it is missing out on a great game.

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You can't throw a decent alley opp unless the guy is 2 feet from the rim and even then he'll brick those for no reason

The CPU can take a guy like Dwight and bring the ball up the court on a fastbreak with crossovers but there are so many fundamental things you are not capable of after seeing that, that its disgusting.

I hate how I cant drive in for a dunk or layup without being bodied up or whatever but the CPU can do a quick drive and dunk and you can't even move because the game has your feet in quicksand to contest it, or in time for that matter.

Im not so sure the fifa thing works because again this game is far too imbalanced.

[rockchisler]

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Love Live Just some tweaks it will be great

[23]

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LOL like what man?

What tweaks? How do you solve the weight issue?

How about the over excessive chest bumping and contact?

[rockchisler]

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I can get to the paint draw contact and get the and 1, It just is very difficult, maybe me and u can get a game in and I can show u a thing or 2...

[bustahymes]

Id like to start of by saying that basing the locomotion aspects of live on soccer is not a bad thing. If you know anything about sports you would know that Steve Nash plays soccer and his footwork is, Ill let you fill in those blanks. Im sure other basketball players play soccer and it only serves to improve their footwork. Live was great this year IMO just lacking some animations. If you ask me Mr.Wang just wants money and is using whatever he learned from working on Live to improve 2K playing both sides of the fence make that money baby, its recession. As ive always said these games are practically identical just different approaches. It all depends on what you prefer shot stick vs. freestyle dribble. I choose Live because its literally in the game. if you get into the motions of the players combined with the analog stick work, I actually feel like Im on the court myself. The execution factor of 2K is enjoyable Live is just more fun to play. In closing Live needs to make the usual overall improvements and try to break the bank with animations and Id be satisfied.

[TreyIM2]

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I have both games, and there are things I love in both of them. I think with extra animations that 2k have they give you more WOW type of moments. Also, 2k's association is great. But, Live as far as gameplay, graphics and atmosphere is a more enjoyable game IMO. It drives me nuts trying to break someone off the dribble in 2k, and I'm doing something I had no business doing because the controls are outdated and ridiculous. I just think that with the bad showing that Live has had the past couple of years no one wants to give the game a shot anymore. But, anyone that has actually sat down and gave Live a real chance they would understand how good the game is, anyone who hasn't played it is missing out on a great game.

I agree, completely. There are definitely some things Live needs to better but for me, they're not game breakers, by any stretch. 2K, on the other hand, it's a wrap as far as my pockets go. Unless they fix the overall animation engine to give more control and ditch iso-motion, which is a joke, to me, and I don't think iso motion is going anywhere, unfortunately, they won't ever get my money again. I really like what was done with Live 10 and hope Mike Wang going back to 2K won't hinder the progress for Live 11.

[SBartlett]

Id like to start of by saying that basing the locomotion aspects of live on soccer is not a bad thing. If you know anything about sports you would know that Steve Nash plays soccer and his footwork is, Ill let you fill in those blanks. Im sure other basketball players play soccer and it only serves to improve their footwork. Live was great this year IMO just lacking some animations. If you ask me Mr.Wang just wants money and is using whatever he learned from working on Live to improve 2K playing both sides of the fence make that money baby, its recession. As ive always said these games are practically identical just different approaches. It all depends on what you prefer shot stick vs. freestyle dribble. I choose Live because its literally in the game. if you get into the motions of the players combined with the analog stick work, I actually feel like Im on the court myself. The execution factor of 2K is enjoyable Live is just more fun to play. In closing Live needs to make the usual overall improvements and try to break the bank with animations and Id be satisfied.

yeah some of the best basketball players have great soccer skills. in my article though, i was trying to state that the running styles (lengthier and longer) from soccer are a bit flawed for a basketball title. look at madden 10 and try doing a screen pass - the wr will run backwards before forwards, almost the same thing in live. interesting how they can't get this fixed when they use the same base for their games ( as it would appear).

[TreyIM2]

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I choose Live because its literally in the game. if you get into the motions of the players combined with the analog stick work, I actually feel like Im on the court myself. The execution factor of 2K is enjoyable Live is just more fun to play. In closing Live needs to make the usual overall improvements and try to break the bank with animations and Id be satisfied.

Another part of my sentiments. I dealt with the shot stick but thought it was not lending itself to making me feel I was "actually on the court" when I played 2K. To me, the most exciting part of playing/watching basketball are the moves made, not the shot, so mapping the stick for shooting was not a good move, in my eyes. Using the right stick should be apart of the excitement and utilized for the most exciting part of playing/watching basketball, imo.

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I can get to the paint draw contact and get the and 1, It just is very difficult, maybe me and u can get a game in and I can show u a thing or 2...

You arent answering rock, and im not talking about online. Single player is not balanced at all. Its horrendous between some players. The CPU cant score because of your Defense then it'll use the cheap momentum advantage I described for a cheap chest bump foul.

That trash gets old, and one reason its like that because once again there just arent nearly enough animations in this game.

...but what tweaks are you talking about I want to know

[rockchisler]

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You arent answering rock, and im not talking about online. Single player is not balanced at all. Its horrendous between some players. The CPU cant score because of your Defense then it'll use the cheap momentum advantage I described for a cheap chest bump foul.

That trash gets old, and one reason its like that because once again there just arent nearly enough animations in this game.

...but what tweaks are you talking about I want to know

More off the ball fouls, I actually saw it one time where a guy was coming off a screen he got bumped and they called it, I was like what the hell? More animations in the paint, (Contact), U right about the chest bump animation, get rid of it or make that particular animation very few and far between.

[The 24th Letter]

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You can't throw a decent alley opp unless the guy is 2 feet from the rim and even then he'll brick those for no reason

The CPU can take a guy like Dwight and bring the ball up the court on a fastbreak with crossovers but there are so many fundamental things you are not capable of after seeing that, that its disgusting.

I hate how I cant drive in for a dunk or layup without being bodied up or whatever but the CPU can do a quick drive and dunk and you can't even move because the game has your feet in quicksand to contest it, or in time for that matter.

Im not so sure the fifa thing works because again this game is far too imbalanced.

Completely agree.

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More off the ball fouls, I actually saw it one time where a guy was coming off a screen he got bumped and they called it, I was like what the hell? More animations in the paint, (Contact), U right about the chest bump animation, get rid of it or make that particular animation very few and far between.

That's just not enough man.. its like, not enough variety in the game to make up for whats missing.

Shaq goes up for a layup and gets smacked around by guys like Fisher, foul or not like he's webster being clothes lined off of a skateboard. That's just not right.

I understand some guys are having fun becuase certain elements are nice, the jumpers, the crowd, the control, but once you get passed that, the game becomes shallow and it looks like it was signed by Mr Generic himself.

You can't even use a hangar type camera angle... The options given here or lack thereof are pretty lame, which is why im asking about your tweaks because alot of that doesnt seem to work or matter because no matter how many times I play LA, Fisher can do side steps like Chris Paul, Bynum always does step back dribbles on me and I end up cutting the game off because the CPU uses that crap to score when they can't get through otherwise.

..so increasing off ball fouls doesn't eliminate unnecessary contact when it otherwise wouldn't happen. Case in point the Stopping LeBron from a full court break just by standing there with Chris Duhon.

[Live Boii]

man live 10 was a good game n offered great things. now with a solid base it can grow to a great game. 2k is on as good as their animations but then again its funny that you have no control

live lets you control dribble,who sets picks and if they roll or pop, and who you throw the ally-opp 2.

you cant even get a proper crossover in 2k n it feels too scripted.