MLB '10: The Show Official Team Ratings and Explanation

[BatsareBugs]

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Some people really need to consider the 11-13 pitchers that are most likely going to be on the 25-man roster when this game comes out and the 12-14 position players on the roster as well.

Think about what their expected overalls are going to be... example:

Starting
C Nick Hundley OVR: C, OFF: C-, DEF: C-
1B Adrian Gonzalez OVR: A, OFF: A, DEF: A
2B David Eckstein OVR: C+, OFF: C, DEF: C
3B Chase Headley OVR: B, OFF: B-, DEF: C+
SS Everth Cabrera OVR: B, OFF: C+, DEF: B-
LF Kyle Blanks OVR: B, OFF: B, DEF: C
CF Tony Gwynn OVR: C+, OFF: C, DEF: C+
RF Will Venable OVR: B, OFF: B, DEF: C+

Bench
C Yorvit Torrealba OVR: C, OFF: C+, DEF: C-
UT Jerry Hairston Jr.: OVR: C+, OFF: C+, DEF: C
UT Oscar Salazar OVR: C, OFF: B, DEF: D+
OF Scott Hairston OVR: C+, OFF: B-, DEF: C
OF Matt Stairs OVR: C, OFF: B-, DEF: D+

Obviously the Padres only have one superstar, a bunch of decent-good players in the starting lineup, a decent bench, but if you think of it, they have two anchors offensively (Gwynn and Eckstein) weighing the team down on offense and an anchor on defense (Stairs), plus some guys who aren't great defensively either.

Rotation:
Chris Young OVR: B+
Kevin Correia OVR: B
Jon Garland OVR: B+
Clayton Richard OVR: B-
Mat Latos OVR: C+

Bullpen:
Heath Bell OVR: A
Mike Adams OVR: A-
Luke Gregerson OVR: B+
Edward Mujica OVR: B
Sean Gallagher OVR: B-
Luis Perdomo OVR: C+
Tim Stauffer OVR: C+

Again, no front-line starter for this team to bring it up in pitching, but the pitching as whole is filled with solid guys with really one true crappy pitcher in Stauffer. Perdomo and Latos are unproven, and thus should be the lowest rated players, but the rest of the relievers with the exception of Gallagher (who is expected to make the team regardless) have proven themselves last season. CY should still be rated high, but no longer an A caliber pitcher. Easily based on my expectation of the ratings for the whole pitching staff, I can see why the Padres have a bottom-third ranking out of all 30-teams, but how they are still good enough to not be the worst rated staff in the league.

Of course there are variation within grade groups for overalls, but one or two A or C-, D+ players can really bring up a hamper a team in the ratings. Remember, while the range between the highest ranked team and the lowest ranked team is significant, the rating to the next closest team(s) is very close.

[Scottdau]

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It is also based off of 3 years too and having Jake and Hoff would help those numbers some.

[BatsareBugs]

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It is also based off of 3 years too and having Jake and Hoff would help those numbers some.

Doubt it, they would be helping their new teams since their ratings went with them.

I know team ratings only include the current players on the 25-man roster given how many different team rankings I kept getting with each fantasy draft in franchise mode.

[rckabillyRaider]

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Dodgers pitching is 2nd??? Hmmmm. Dont know how we got that, since we don't even have a legit ace. I'll take it though!

[liftheavy]

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Bullpen and 3,4,5?

D Aardsma 2.52 ERA 38 saves
S White 2.80 ERA 64.1 innings
M Lowe 3.26 ERA 80 innings

Those 3 alone = a solid bullpen...the "other starters"
R Rowland-Smith 3.74 ERA
I Snell 4.20 ERA
D Fister 4.13 ERA

The Mariners were 6th in the Major Leagues with a 3.87 ERA and was 4th in the Majors with a .247 BAA...there are your facts.

[Jason_19]

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Dodgers pitching is 2nd??? Hmmmm. Dont know how we got that, since we don't even have a legit ace.

Clayton Kershaw has the potential to be one of the top 3 or 4 pitchers in baseball this season. Add to that the fact that he's dominated in his first 2 seasons and I would easily consider him an "ace".

[Jason_19]

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D Aardsma 2.52 ERA 38 saves
S White 2.80 ERA 64.1 innings
M Lowe 3.26 ERA 80 innings

Those 3 alone = a solid bullpen...the "other starters"
R Rowland-Smith 3.74 ERA
I Snell 4.20 ERA
D Fister 4.13 ERA

The Mariners were 6th in the Major Leagues with a 3.87 ERA and was 4th in the Majors with a .247 BAA...there are your facts.

Add Josh Fields to the pullpen and I would consider their late inning relievers the best in baseball.

[BatsareBugs]

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Dodgers pitching is 2nd??? Hmmmm. Dont know how we got that, since we don't even have a legit ace. I'll take it though!

No legit ace, but off the top of my head I know that I could expect the following OVRs for the Dodgers probably pitching staff.

CL Jonathan Broxton A
SP Clayton Kershaw A-
SP Chad Billingsley A-
RP George Sherrill B+ (or A-)
SP Hiroki Kuroda B+
RP Hong-Chih Kuo B+
RP Ramon Troncoso B+
RP Ronnie Belisario B+
SP Vicente Padilla B
SP Jeff Weaver B
RP James McDonald B-
P I don't know who, but most likely will be a C+ at worst or B at most.

*You can interchange McDonald and Weaver as SP/RP.
**Eric Stults... is he going to have a spot in the rotation?

Obviously like you said, no ace, but Broxton IMO will be the best rated pitcher on the staff, followed by Kershaw and Billingsley. While the Dodgers have no clear-cut ace, i have to admit looking through their bullpen and the rest of their rotation, it's hard to see anyone rated lower than a B or B-, with many guys I think being in the B+ range overall (and maybe A-).

[liftheavy]

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Add Josh Fields to the pullpen and I would consider their late inning relievers the best in baseball.

They are solid all around...no question.

[ParisB]

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D Aardsma 2.52 ERA 38 saves
S White 2.80 ERA 64.1 innings
M Lowe 3.26 ERA 80 innings

Those 3 alone = a solid bullpen...the "other starters"
R Rowland-Smith 3.74 ERA
I Snell 4.20 ERA
D Fister 4.13 ERA

The Mariners were 6th in the Major Leagues with a 3.87 ERA and was 4th in the Majors with a .247 BAA...there are your facts.

their adjusted numbers outside of safeco field say otherwise....besides, you need more than one fluke season to establish yourself before making bold proclamations such as "best in baseball".....bullpens fluctuate year to year. Teams scout, figure guys out etc.

Seattle is a mediocre team, guys....don't get your hopes up too much.

[Knight165]

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D Aardsma 2.52 ERA 38 saves
S White 2.80 ERA 64.1 innings
M Lowe 3.26 ERA 80 innings

Those 3 alone = a solid bullpen...the "other starters"
R Rowland-Smith 3.74 ERA
I Snell 4.20 ERA
D Fister 4.13 ERA

The Mariners were 6th in the Major Leagues with a 3.87 ERA and was 4th in the Majors with a .247 BAA...there are your facts.

Two years ago... 25th in ERA and 27th in WHIP
Three years back...22nd and 25th...
You guys are forgetting...it's a 3 year weighted average.

M.K.
Knight165

[BatsareBugs]

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Two years ago... 25th in ERA and 27th in WHIP
Three years back...22nd and 25th...
You guys are forgetting...it's a 3 year weighted average.

M.K.
Knight165

Is it really for team considerations? I thought it was only for individual players ratings, then those ratings are taken into consideration when calculating the team ratings, which then are used to rank the teams. I would think that team stats the past three years have no bearing on the offense, defense, or pitching ratings of the team, but the past three years for individuals instead.

[Knight165]

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Is it really for team considerations? I thought it was only for individual players ratings, then those ratings are taken into consideration when calculating the team ratings, which then are used to rank the teams. I would think that team stats the past three years have no bearing on the offense, defense, or pitching ratings of the team, but the past three years for individuals instead.

You're right....sorry...

M.K.
Knight165

[Hitman3315]

No legit ace, but off the top of my head I know that I could expect the following OVRs for the Dodgers probably pitching staff.

CL Jonathan Broxton A
SP Clayton Kershaw A-
SP Chad Billingsley A-
RP George Sherrill B+ (or A-)
SP Hiroki Kuroda B+
RP Hong-Chih Kuo B+
RP Ramon Troncoso B+
RP Ronnie Belisario B+
SP Vicente Padilla B
SP Jeff Weaver B
RP James McDonald B-
P I don't know who, but most likely will be a C+ at worst or B at most.

*You can interchange McDonald and Weaver as SP/RP.
**Eric Stults... is he going to have a spot in the rotation?

Obviously like you said, no ace, but Broxton IMO will be the best rated pitcher on the staff, followed by Kershaw and Billingsley. While the Dodgers have no clear-cut ace, i have to admit looking through their bullpen and the rest of their rotation, it's hard to see anyone rated lower than a B or B-, with many guys I think being in the B+ range overall (and maybe A-).

Nice rundown. I too doubted this ranking at first, but the bullpen is really superb.

I still think there have to be some pitching staffs in the majors that are better top to bottom, and perhaps starting pitching should be weighted more (if it isn't already). Still... since pitching has been the #1 concern for many Dodger fans this season since Ned didn't make as big of a splash as many people hoped (Padilla is a good add, but a lot of people wanted more), this makes me feel a little better.

Man... I'm pumped for pitchers & catchers reporting, pumped for the season, and totally jacked up for The Show!

[Mercury53]

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The M's have probably the best 1,2 punch in baseball and their ranked 19th in pitching? LOL

I would have to agree here. People seem to be vastly underrating Rowland-Smith and Ian Snell has outstanding stuff just an inability to stay focused. I won't say it is top ten, but 13th or so sounds better then 19th.