NBA Live Needs the Dream

**FamousAtticus** · 02-16-2010, 12:55 PM

I honestly think the "dream" for Live eneded back in the Playstation 2 days. The Live series was my NBA game of choice from 1993's Bulls vs Lakers on SNES all the way through up until NBA Live 2000(the one w/ Tim Duncan on the cover), then I purchased a Dreamcast and was introduced to NBA 2K. I must say NBA Live lost a lot of its luster to me as the years have gone by(i'm a hardcore sim player), I tried this year to give NBA Live a try but it just lacked in the gameplay and sim aspect that I'm now used to. It will be sad if Live's future is in fact in jeopardy, I have secretely always hoped that Live would get back to the top where it once was in my eyes so then I would have 2 top tier NBA games to choose from. But that I guess doesn't appear likely anymore...bummer.

**gamer23** · 02-16-2010, 01:09 PM

yea,i though i liked live but once i first got my hands on 2k10 for 360 i said bye live!

**gamer23** · 02-16-2010, 01:10 PM

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**Pared** · 02-16-2010, 01:13 PM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

Originally posted by Smokez4DAyz

Please with the garbage. Live is trash. Very Big Trash. You dudes kill me, last week it was ways to fix 2k10, but this week its Live has it but it needs the dream? WTF? You dudes must be younger than me, to fall for this bs. 2K is the far superior title, and I come on a website called Operation Sports and they constantly talk about righting live, instead of more strategy and game talk about 2K...WTF? Footplanting is your biggest problem? how about just passing or the ease of 3pts or the ease of Dunks, or the bad substitution patterns. Do you guys smile when you create these fake topics. Now you admit you use SOCCER to fix your basketball...stupid, and cheap. SOCCER, and you see it now that you've said, the fastbreaks pause like you waiting for a soccerball....lmao...who the hell is playing that ARCADE game LIVE10...NBA2K since NBA2K on the 'Cast.

I think your post is very out of line and you should turn it down a few notches.

Live is far from trash, but I agree with you about the scope of some of these articles. Live needs a LOT more than what's being talked about here.

It's a shame, too. I think Live needs some more involvement from the community. Not sure if they even know it, but it would go a long way to make the game everyone here wants. Let's be realistic... if the Live team listened to your legit complaints (not "this is trash) then wouldn't you be more inclined to give it a shot?

23 · 02-16-2010, 01:34 PM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

How about this... lets leave 2k out of this thread once and for all. The next time it gets derailed on a 2k post an infraction will follow.

That said, I only wanted rock's game tweaks. NBA Live 10 is far from trash, and as I said rock, if you can save the game for me, tell me exactly what you did. Im not here to smash on the game, but as I played last night I saw some of the things happen that made me turn the game off. Things happen but when you see it far too often it gets real hard...

Dj... I know about layup solutions and such. Has nothing to do with the fact that some things arent executed right even if its because of a lack here or there. I watch enough basketball to know that this doesn't happen 90% of the time because the guy isnt starting a layup reverse from outside the ft line. That's garbage...

Then again, as I said the CPU seems to be held to a different standard of physics when it comes to them wanting to score. Its just not balanced.

**bigsmallwood** · 02-16-2010, 01:45 PM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

Originally posted by 23

How about this... lets leave 2k out of this thread once and for all. The next time it gets derailed on a 2k post an infraction will follow.

That said, I only wanted rock's game tweaks. NBA Live 10 is far from trash, and as I said rock, if you can save the game for me, tell me exactly what you did. Im not here to smash on the game, but as I played last night I saw some of the things happen that made me turn the game off. Things happen but when you see it far too often it gets real hard...

Dj... I know about layup solutions and such. Has nothing to do with the fact that some things arent executed right even if its because of a lack here or there. I watch enough basketball to know that this doesn't happen 90% of the time because the guy isnt starting a layup reverse from outside the ft line. That's garbage...

Then again, as I said the CPU seems to be held to a different standard of physics when it comes to them wanting to score. Its just not balanced.

The problem is that NBA Live 10 needs more than Rock or anybody elses slider tweaks...Shaq should not be Euro stepping...there is a lack of variety in animations, the fact that a player will get floored on a three pointer or in the paint and fouls are not called is a huge issue. Especially in the age of "superstar calls'....in real life if D. Wade or LeBron go to the hole and get clothes-lined by DeShawn Stephenson...there will be a foul called. The Free Throw system is horrible and not accurrate etc etc.

NBA Live 10 is not trash...however it needs some serious work in order to be a GREAT NBA sim game. I have tried numerous peoples sliders here and most of them amount to cheap gimmicks that do not change the gameplay for me. I am not looking to just win a game by 30 points and take the MVP...if I am losing, I want it to be logical...if I am under the basket with D. Howard and he does some odd looking lay-up 90% of the time, when all he had to do is throw it down (dunk), which is what he does in real life, its a problem with the game. Most of Live's issues are fixable within a one year time frame....the question is will we see it happen. Most of us would be all too happy to have PROPER community interaction without people bashing devs...we just want a great game that lives up to expectations.

**blackscorpion11** · 02-16-2010, 09:38 PM

NBA live falls under the same mediocre efforts that ALL EA sports games fall under..In my gamer's heart i firmly believe that EA has no true interest in innovation, they make only enough changes to keep us sheep buying year after year. If they fix everything and give a us a sim or near sim, then we won't buy a new game for 2 or 3yrs!! They want us buying every year..

If you reject this opinion thats cool, but then you MUST admit that they are incompetent for not having fixed minor game flaws that have existed for the last 4 to 5yrs ???? example :The TOYOTA recalls currently happening...Those flaws will be fixed immediately..immediately.. not two vehicle versions from now.. Do you really believe that EA sports cannot write code to change character behaviors to mimic basketball semi-realistically?? Of course they can, just not all at once..because they want repeat business..

Sorry to go off topic but i can't stomach this pie in the sky talk about what next years game may or may not be?

**Tommyklaid** · 02-17-2010, 12:12 AM

I own 2K but I have been playing Live ever since my roommate started up Gamefly...I am LOVIN' LIVE this year! I am having sooo much fun with it! Next years impovements should give 2K a run for its money, because 2K seems to have hit a wall - should be an interesting October!!!!

**ShindoHikaru** · 02-17-2010, 11:31 AM

IMO, whatever hopes we have in NBA Live 11 we've carried over from NBA Live 10 will fade because of Mike Wang's departure. Perhaps some of his influence will carry over the next release but they'll be back to where they were before Mike Wang came there.

**Pared** · 02-18-2010, 10:43 AM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

Can we stop the 2k vs. Live posts? It's bad enough some of you can't explain your reasoning but the outright bashing is going to stop.

**inkpimp007** · 02-20-2010, 11:10 AM

Here's the problem with this title in opinion.

You can never be sure what you are getting from Live from year to year. The only consistent thing you can rely on is hearing "wait until next year, we're almost there." I'm almost convinced there can be no basketball game made in Canada without taking two steps back. Live dev teams seem to suffer fro memory lose, there is always a constant back and forth of adding features then taking them out only to add them back in. At this point there should be no discussion where fundamentals are concerned, they should have had that grown work cover long before now. But sadly once again when Live 11 hits there going to be selling us on put back dunks. For all the great work with momentum how do you not factor in player weight? When Shaq can't affectively back down anyone (drawing the double) then whats the point of even having a center on the floor. This game just doesn't feel balanced, which leads to frustration and controller throwing.

I think personally Live needs 2 years of uninterrupted development, but they also have to pick a side. By that i mean the upper management has to decide what audience they are making this game for. If it's sim then commit to sim. I don't think Live is in that bad of shape when you consider the competition isn't doing that much better in the get it right department. Both titles have different issues.

**deepen03** · 02-21-2010, 11:14 PM

LIVE has been crap for years and even Mike Wang couldn't save this insult to the NBA. Now Wang's back at 2k to make sure the King of B-ball games stays on top. LIVE HAS NO CHANCE EVER! 2k will beat it every year.

**rockchisler** · 02-21-2010, 11:37 PM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

Originally posted by deepen03

LIVE has been crap for years and even Mike Wang couldn't save this insult to the NBA. Now Wang's back at 2k to make sure the King of B-ball games stays on top. LIVE HAS NO CHANCE EVER! 2k will beat it every year.

Based on what? u are making a statement based on nothing....

**sportyguyfl31** · 02-24-2010, 11:02 PM

Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

I really have no idea why people think Live is in for doom and gloom because Mike Wang left.

Live 09 introduced DNA, DNA hot zones, quick strike driblbling, the current play calling system. Wang had nothing to do with any of that.

It would be silly to just all of a sudden think that EA is going to scrap it, or not tweak it further.

They created the dang features to begin with.

Heck Live 09, had signature animationsthat didnt make it into '10. I can only assume that dynamic season took those resources.

**Behindshadows** · 02-24-2010, 11:41 PM

Live team did a great job on 10 and I think 11 will shut up a lot of the ignorance and biased comments that continue to spit out of some people mouth's.

MW or not, more than one man made Live 10 and you have to give those individuals their credit. The game was leaps and bounds better than Live 09 in 10 months time. I can only see the series improving.

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