Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

[t11]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

No.

But I will advise everyone here that we should get this thread back on topic. Let's talk about the Developer Diary rather than OS Policies.

If you want to discuss our rules, feel free to post in Steve's Forum or PM a site Moderator/Admin.

HAHA, shut down.

Anyway, I'm still super impressed by the gang tackles. The look more fluid and dynamic than Pro-Tak. But almost more important than the gang tackles, is how they start. and thats with a stale mate of power and strength. It really looks amazing to see the BC try to power through a tackle only to be hit again and again by other players/

[KBLover]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

I'm getting the feeling that this games is going to piss off a bunch of "cheese" type players. Playing defense is going to be unreal versus anything else we have played before. When you go for the pick as the Saftey and miss, you won't be able to turn right around and catch up, your momentum will carry you out of the play. LBs taking bad angles or not covering their zone are going to get killed.
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And hopefully the player AI will take this into consideration as well.

It's good that real momentum and physics will make you pay for your bad choices. Hopefully, the player AI will also consider things like this.

Especially with pursuit angles. Bad angles should hurt - hopefully, they'll not take bad angles too often.

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

Is it me or are they talking about the same stuff over and over? I hope they start talking about the other little things that go into a football game. The tackling looks fantastic but, I want to know about rules, playbooks, etc...

If I missed that stuff can someone let me know. Thanks!

Now that we're back on topic, can someone chime in?

[t11]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

No news of playbooks and the like just yet. Rules are most likely to be standard football rules.

[Nintari]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

one really good commercial and this game will take off. they need to show its a good game. one action packed blitz -like commercial it will have problems. it has to come off as a fun, but realistic game. for people to buy.

plus the thing with tech you can only hold on to it for so long. if PhysX figure out something similar to what Euphoria is EA will get it in an update. but this game looks hot so far.

I think they need to push the whole "create the NFL" idea without actually saying "NFL". Make sure most people realize they can have the NFL in it if they want it.

The biggest hurdle is the NFL license.

[blackscorpion11]

1st Day purchase..BUT

Just based on the videos it has an NFL blitz look to it, and I know it's not a finished product but the bodies look un-natural and the jerseys look spray painted on???

Lately AI is everything in these games...we will see

[blackscorpion11]

Strange that with less than 3 months until release we don't know more about this game..Features, online options, etc..APK2k8 had nice tackling and physics but no replay value, no online options worth a damn..These guys appear to be british, they may know animation but do they know football?? Can they program a realistic football IQ into this game?

[turftickler]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

1st Day purchase..BUT

Just based on the videos it has an NFL blitz look to it, and I know it's not a finished product but the bodies look un-natural and the jerseys look spray painted on???

Lately AI is everything in these games...we will see

Maybe I need my eyes checked because I don't see the Blitz resemblence and the jerseys look good to me. Great thread. You have valid concerns. I just see things differently, which is good, because if everyone was the same on everything, we would be stuck on in the past.

[SouthernBrick]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

I'm starting to think all the hard hits are just a good way to get people into this game and apart of there their plan to get more sells. Look at what madden does in there commercials and vids. They nothing but, highlights when It comes to the worldwide audience. That is just what people want to see and BB will definitely get you to the edge of your couch with a great commercial.

I have been interested in BB ever since the first highlight vid came out. I am still going to buy Madden 11 regardless of how BB does. I still can't believe this game is only like 3 months away from release and this game is 50 bucks(I know Its only 10 dollars but, it matters). I loved this vid though it looked very well done, the RB reaching, gang tackles, the mid air collisions is something I'm going to look forward to seeing. I think I'll enjoy defense more than offense just because, the hits in this game...words just don't do justice in explaining how great they look.

I'm still a bit worried about wrap tackles though, I know this is just the highlight vids that madden pulls on us every year to pump up the hype machine before the real gameplay vids go viral. Does anyone know if the Devs have mentioned that big hits don't happen 24/7? I'm wanna believe they don't but, the hits are so spectacular that I'm getting a bit worried. To many big hits isn't going to be a make or break because, madden there's a big hit at least once every series If not more. At least in BB the tackles will be different every time even if there are constantly big hits.

If you can stand it in madden you should be able to stand it in BB if the overall gameplay is truly revolutionary and A.I. is on par or better than other games. Me personally I'm a hardcore online guy who doesn't really care much for the A.I. but, I know a lot of people here and outside this forum do.

[allBthere]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

I'm starting to think all the hard hits are just a good way to get people into this game and apart of there their plan to get more sells. Look at what madden does in there commercials and vids. They nothing but, highlights when It comes to the worldwide audience. That is just what people want to see and BB will definitely get you to the edge of your couch with a great commercial.

I have been interested in BB ever since the first highlight vid came out. I am still going to buy Madden 11 regardless of how BB does. I still can't believe this game is only like 3 months away from release and this game is 50 bucks(I know Its only 10 dollars but, it matters). I loved this vid though it looked very well done, the RB reaching, gang tackles, the mid air collisions is something I'm going to look forward to seeing. I think I'll enjoy defense more than offense just because, the hits in this game...words just don't do justice in explaining how great they look.

I'm still a bit worried about wrap tackles though, I know this is just the highlight vids that madden pulls on us every year to pump up the hype machine before the real gameplay vids go viral. Does anyone know if the Devs have metioned that big hits don't happen 24/7? I'm wanna believe they don't but, the hits are so spectacular that I'm getting a bit worried. To many big hits isn't going to be a make or break because, madden there's a big hit at least once every series. At least the tackles will be different every time even if there are constantly big hits.

You know what I would guess? That if you're moving slowly (ie taking a bad angle and having to adjust, or only moving latteraly and basically 'catching' the runner) you will see non-big-hit tackles. The tackles are based on weight/momentum/speed etc...so someone tackling moving slowly might result in a more flakey tackle.

[SouthernBrick]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

You know what I would guess? That if you're moving slowly (ie taking a bad angle and having to adjust, or only moving latteraly and basically 'catching' the runner) you will see non-big-hit tackles. The tackles are based on weight/momentum/speed etc...so someone tackling moving slowly might result in a more flakey tackle.

Yeah thats what I'm thinking because, Its all physics based so I was going to hold that question until the gameplay vids came out but, since were kinda close to the game being launched I couldn't hold it in. I figured someone might know something by now.

I know the first game will have its problems like every game but, I think this game will be really solid. The running backs still look a bit stiff and the QB throwing motion could be much better but, I don't care as long as Its fun and fundamentally good football. I'm more excited about this game than madden because, i just want something different. I also like that statement about how It will be hard for people to go back to canned animations. I hope there right and there game takes off but, I know It won't out beat madden purely because, of the license.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

Just now watching this video and all I can say is WOW. This is looking very impressive. I'm getting really amped up to play this now. I still want to see some gameplay footage, but I saw a few more things in this video that I haven't seen in others.

[tooldude79]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

if this game plays well, Madden is toast..and its their own fault....or maybe EA will make a good next-gen football game for once.. the consumer may finally get what they've been craving for in a next-gen football game!!

im looking forward to this title hitting the shelves!!

[shavane]

I'm still amazed how far this game has come. It has already exceeded my expectations. I read one post where someone was concerned about the devs having to tell the AI not to grab facemask...really think about what that implies and you'll realize the depth of this game. Let me make it easy...1st time pee wee football player...ok tackle whoever has the ball anyway you can just don't grab their facemask because thats illegal.

The thing that has me the most hype is the way the runner stretches the ball towards the goal line. This implies that players have on the field awareness which would also translate to toe taps, end zone catches, runners trying to get the 1st down and runners trying to stop the 1st down. I don't know how many times I've been frustrated in Madden because the player didn't attempt a toe tap on what should have been a completion. This will make this game more sim because actual football comes down to plays like this...

[turftickler]

Re: Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

I'm still amazed how far this game has come. It has already exceeded my expectations. I read one post where someone was concerned about the devs having to tell the AI not to grab facemask...really think about what that implies and you'll realize the depth of this game. Let me make it easy...1st time pee wee football player...ok tackle whoever has the ball anyway you can just don't grab their facemask because thats illegal.

The thing that has me the most hype is the way the runner stretches the ball towards the goal line. This implies that players have on the field awareness which would also translate to toe taps, end zone catches, runners trying to get the 1st down and runners trying to stop the 1st down. I don't know how many times I've been frustrated in Madden because the player didn't attempt a toe tap on what should have been a completion. This will make this game more sim because actual football comes down to plays like this...

Prepare for awesomeness.