Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

[Phobia]

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Prepare for awesomeness.

Glad to see u on OS turf

[CreatineKasey]

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I really hope they pop together a quick quarter of gameplay only. To me, it really still seems like they want to keep a lot of their ideas hidden as long as possible to not only build hype at the right time, but to limit what the competition knows. If their competition knows all the features and exactly what a game is about, they'll try to lift a bunch of selling points and slide them into their product.

If Backbreaker waits, they can ideally get their ideas released without them being emulated in THIS year's game. We've all seen it in the past, 2 games competing and stealing ideas. By the time BB releases, their competition shouldn't be able to implement similar technology.

Still, I want to see what this game is all about. It's been YEARS and now we are so close.... come on!!!! lol

[o Mass Murda o]

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alot of this had already been said before in other vids, but im glad they released alot of new footage to show a few more nuggets of gameplay. man, its looking good right now for sure. def a 1st day purchase for me.

now all i want is the gritty details about customization, # of teams, ratings method, offline franchise or whatever theyre calling it, and leagues or online franch. hope dev diary #3 has all new info and more footage

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I really hope they pop together a quick quarter of gameplay only. To me, it really still seems like they want to keep a lot of their ideas hidden as long as possible to not only build hype at the right time, but to limit what the competition knows. If their competition knows all the features and exactly what a game is about, they'll try to lift a bunch of selling points and slide them into their product.

If Backbreaker waits, they can ideally get their ideas released without them being emulated in THIS year's game. We've all seen it in the past, 2 games competing and stealing ideas. By the time BB releases, their competition shouldn't be able to implement similar technology.

Still, I want to see what this game is all about. It's been YEARS and now we are so close.... come on!!!! lol

It's like a chick lifting up her skirt and then running away. They need to give up the goodies, we've been patient lol. I'm really getting hyped for this game. If the X's and O's are on point, it's going to be hard to pull me away from this one.

[CreatineKasey]

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It's like a chick lifting up her skirt and then running away. They need to give up the goodies, we've been patient lol. I'm really getting hyped for this game. If the X's and O's are on point, it's going to be hard to pull me away from this one.

Agreed. It's going to welcome contact. Playing in the trenches may be better than ever.

[shavane]

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Wouldn't it be crazy if one of the reasons for the lack of info is because they don't want EA plucking them for ideas because EA obviously has no clue about what people want in a football game. If that is the reasoning that that would be refreshing. I think the gameplay is going to be groundbreaking personally. Even if the AI is suspect like Madden it would still be a better game due to the physics involved.

I understand that attempting to assimulate actual NFL players is a lot harder than any of us can imagine but at least with realistic physics, collisions, weight and momentum hopefully we won't see the impossible matrix type plays on Madden because its physically impossible once you factor in physics. There is no canned animation you can duplicate or create to compete with this. NM now has a 3 or 4 year head start on any dev who will basically be forced to go in this direction.

I think EA believes that their product along with the NFL liscense is all they really need to be successful. I don't think they felt threatened by NM and probably didn't expect them to make a game like this work. I don't think they imagined that BB would turn out as advanced as its appearing to be so they continued to do what always worked for them...rehash, new feature, rehash, new feature. I'm not even going out on a limb anymore when I say this but I think that after May 18th they will seriously feel threatened. I say good luck to anyone that can go back to canned animations.

[Phobia]

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I think the biggest draw for me besides the "contact" is how fluid it all moves. There is no hitches for animations to start/finish, no odd changes due to animations, etc.

Everything just flows like your mind perceives it happening before it does. Which lends a huge hand in it coming off more "realistic" because your mind can connect with it. If that makes sense.

[mvb34]

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Wouldn't it be crazy if one of the reasons for the lack of info is because they don't want EA plucking them for ideas because EA obviously has no clue about what people want in a football game. If that is the reasoning that that would be refreshing. I think the gameplay is going to be groundbreaking personally. Even if the AI is suspect like Madden it would still be a better game due to the physics involved.

I understand that attempting to assimulate actual NFL players is a lot harder than any of us can imagine but at least with realistic physics, collisions, weight and momentum hopefully we won't see the impossible matrix type plays on Madden because its physically impossible once you factor in physics. There is no canned animation you can duplicate or create to compete with this. NM now has a 3 or 4 year head start on any dev who will basically be forced to go in this direction.

I think EA believes that their product along with the NFL liscense is all they really need to be successful. I don't think they felt threatened by NM and probably didn't expect them to make a game like this work. I don't think they imagined that BB would turn out as advanced as its appearing to be so they continued to do what always worked for them...rehash, new feature, rehash, new feature. I'm not even going out on a limb anymore when I say this but I think that after May 18th they will seriously feel threatened. I say good luck to anyone that can go back to canned animations.

Isn't it little late in the game to still ideas for this upcoming version??

[shavane]

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mvb34 - I have no idea if it would be too late or not. I was just trying to make myself feel better about the lack of info on this game...lol.

After M10 I think I've become spoiled in that sense. I'm not sure of the time frame exactly but all I know is information, gameplay vids, dev vids was flying around the internet like crazy pre M10 release. EAs marketing strategy last year was phenomenal. It felt like they opened the entire book up to us so it was with great confidence that I strolled up to the counter and purchased what I felt would be a new era for Madden but I was wrong. I fully expect to use the same great confidence when I go to purchase BB and I've got my fingers crossed that I won't fall into the same trap lol.

[Jimixiii]

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Isn't it little late in the game to still ideas for this upcoming version??

The EA team is just really getting started.

[mvb34]

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The EA team is just really getting started.

I thought EA started on the next version game right after the current game was released.

[Jimixiii]

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I thought EA started on the next version game right after the current game was released.

That's not the impression I get from their vlogs they seem to basically brainstorm until March, doesn't seem logical but maybe I'm wrong...but with EA, what is logical?

[lofeazy]

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Isn't it little late in the game to still ideas for this upcoming version??

No its not.They can always push madden to the first week of september .Remeber there going to sell a million no mater when the games comes out.(That why I always say Madden should come out in september give time for a more polish game.Where else are you going to buy a NFL license game?)

[mvb34]

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No its not.They can always push madden to the first week of september .Remeber there going to sell a million no mater when the games comes out.(That why I always say Madden should come out in september give time for a more polish game.Where else are you going to buy a NFL license game?)

You know go well they ain't pushing Madden back to first week of September.

[eXperiment63]

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This implies that players have on the field awareness which would also translate to toe taps, end zone catches, runners trying to get the 1st down and runners trying to stop the 1st down.

You can see a pseudo toe-tap in dev diary 2. The very last play. You see the receiver get his right foot down before goin out of the back of the endzone. You can see how rushed his right foot is compared to the rest of the animation.