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  • antifanboy
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 108

    #31
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

    Speed and defense are the two most exciting attributes of a shortstop to me

    this is a great, accurate list
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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5687

      #32
      Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

      Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
      Wrong.

      Durability = # of games a player is capable of starting/playing in a season.

      So you're telling me after 4 seasons of 155+ games and then one season where he plays only 40, he's no longer capable of playing 150 games anymore? Dude.... That's what the rating is about.
      That's not what SCEA says about player ratings. They are supposedly based on the last three years with the most recent year having the most influence. That's why Zobrist is rated so high at 2b after only one good year. Reyes' durability and other stats should have taken a hit based on that standard.

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      • EnigmaNemesis
        Animal Liberation
        • Apr 2006
        • 12216

        #33
        Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

        Seeing Reyes fielding UZR is far better than Jeter and Hanley the past three years, this seems about right.

        Just as with second base, there are far more factors at these two positions other than hitting, and fielding being key.
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        • BatsareBugs
          LVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 12553

          #34
          Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

          Originally posted by alstl
          That's not what SCEA says about player ratings. They are supposedly based on the last three years with the most recent year having the most influence. That's why Zobrist is rated so high at 2b after only one good year. Reyes' durability and other stats should have taken a hit based on that standard.
          Well, I don't speak for SCEA, but I think that the fact that Jose Reyes was injured is the reason why his ratings didn't take a hit. In the last three years, his games played were 160, 159, and 36. Now I don't know the percentages SCEA uses, but if you wanted last year to take the most weight, then you'll have a starting shortstop whose durability rating would be given to sim around 73 games...

          Another thing, because he only played 36 games, I would assume that since he didn't have a lot of at-bats/plate appearances, he wouldn't have a lot of data for the system to calculate any significant changes in his ratings. Now if he played 150+ games last season and still had the same combined numbers of .279/.355/.395/.750, had a drop in steals and power, and played some worst defense, then we would see him take a ratings hit in some areas.

          That's my guess, but I would think it would be ridiculous for a 26-27 year old player to have his durability take a hit when in four of the past five seasons, he showed he was capable of carrying a 150 game load.

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          • aces01
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 209

            #35
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

            The list seems pretty reasonable. I think that the top 3 are correct but not in the right order. I would probably put Hanley ahead of Reyes, but that could just be me.

            Still not sure why Jimmy Rollin's stance has been incorrect for a while now.

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            • Russell_SCEA
              SCEA Community Manager
              • May 2005
              • 4161

              #36
              Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

              Originally posted by GoBucs09
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              Good list with a few slight tweaks needed but good none the less.

              Soon as I send this gameplay video to GT I'll start working on the OF's

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              • MrChainsaw
                MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 1430

                #37
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

                Originally posted by antifanboy
                this is a great, accurate list
                And I'm sure you aren't the slightest bit biased.
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                • ny_alex718
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 22

                  #38
                  Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

                  Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                  Soon as I send this gameplay video to GT I'll start working on the OF's
                  Russell i just want to know will they have top ten list for pitchers and third basemen. If so i expect tim lincecum rated first and sandoval within the top ten third basemen.

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                  • tessl
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5687

                    #39
                    Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

                    Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                    Well, I don't speak for SCEA, but I think that the fact that Jose Reyes was injured is the reason why his ratings didn't take a hit. In the last three years, his games played were 160, 159, and 36. Now I don't know the percentages SCEA uses, but if you wanted last year to take the most weight, then you'll have a starting shortstop whose durability rating would be given to sim around 73 games...

                    Another thing, because he only played 36 games, I would assume that since he didn't have a lot of at-bats/plate appearances, he wouldn't have a lot of data for the system to calculate any significant changes in his ratings. Now if he played 150+ games last season and still had the same combined numbers of .279/.355/.395/.750, had a drop in steals and power, and played some worst defense, then we would see him take a ratings hit in some areas.

                    That's my guess, but I would think it would be ridiculous for a 26-27 year old player to have his durability take a hit when in four of the past five seasons, he showed he was capable of carrying a 150 game load.

                    This is from the official team ratings explanation: Player ratings are not done by human hands its all done by a program that looks at the players past three years with the most recent year weighing in the highest.

                    It seems perfectly logical for a player coming off a major injury to have durability concerns. True, in the past he was very durable but according to SCEA the most recent year weighs the highest and the most recent year was a major injury.

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                    • 24
                      Forever A Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2809

                      #40
                      Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

                      how is anyone rated higher than Derek jeter (with the exception of Hanley Ramirez) is beyond me . The show goes on the production of the players last three seasons. look at jeter's past three seasons



                      Never hit lower than 300, hit for 200 hits twice, OBP was above .360 each year, struck out 100 times once and won a gold glove.

                      Look at jose reyes stats now

                      Never hit above .300, lead the league in caught stealing twice in those three years while he did lead the league in triples and hits that same year he led the league in plate appearances. OBP never above .360. made more errors in 2 years than jeter has in 3.

                      Hanley is better than Jeter but Reyes certainly is not. seems to me we have a met fan as the lead produce of the show lol


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                      • CommunityCollege
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 384

                        #41
                        Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

                        Reyes No.1?!

                        get out.

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                        • jvalverde88
                          Moderator
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 11787

                          #42
                          Re: MLB'10:The Show Top 10 SS

                          Originally posted by ny_alex718
                          Russell i just want to know will they have top ten list for pitchers and third basemen. If so i expect tim lincecum rated first and sandoval within the top ten third basemen.
                          He already released one on 3rd basemen.

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                          • jvalverde88
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 11787

                            #43
                            Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

                            Again, its not like SCEA gave Reyes more power than Hanley. The difference between the two is the speed and fielding rating. From what I see their overall rating looks the same.
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                            • Russell_SCEA
                              SCEA Community Manager
                              • May 2005
                              • 4161

                              #44
                              Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

                              Originally posted by jvalverde88
                              Again, its not like SCEA gave Reyes more power than Hanley. The difference between the two is the speed and fielding rating. From what I see their overall rating looks the same.

                              Yup if you just look at the bars you will see they are essentially the same overall. You have to dig deeper into the individual ratings to see differences.

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                              • jvalverde88
                                Moderator
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 11787

                                #45
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Shortstops

                                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                                Yup if you just look at the bars you will see they are essentially the same overall. You have to dig deeper into the individual ratings to see differences.
                                But no, since Reyes is above Hanley


                                Reyes>>>>>Hanley
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