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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66563

    #61
    Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

    Man stop it with this bias talk and how you guys dont understand

    First of all EA has a history, thats reason #1 people dont trust EA

    Second, Its the "new direction" comment that bothers people

    Third Moving some of the devs who worked on this game elsewhere and one leaving is another thing that raised people's eyebrows.


    At this point, EA doesnt have alot of leg room with the fans. Since this gen started its been disaster after disaster, and once something respectable comes out BOOM, new direction.

    People are going to wait and see, not claiming doom and gloom. The marketing thing has worn out now, just the same as the limited animations the generic player likenesses/tendencies...

    There are a number of things that bother people that shouldn't be ignored.
    Like I said, people are going to wait and see

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    • KG
      Welcome Back
      • Sep 2005
      • 17589

      #62
      Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

      Originally posted by 23
      You can't throw a decent alley opp unless the guy is 2 feet from the rim and even then he'll brick those for no reason

      The CPU can take a guy like Dwight and bring the ball up the court on a fastbreak with crossovers but there are so many fundamental things you are not capable of after seeing that, that its disgusting.

      I hate how I cant drive in for a dunk or layup without being bodied up or whatever but the CPU can do a quick drive and dunk and you can't even move because the game has your feet in quicksand to contest it, or in time for that matter.

      Im not so sure the fifa thing works because again this game is far too imbalanced.
      That's what I struggled with the most when I had Live. I love the fact that there is contact but I need to see variety in the animations taking into account who's involved in the "collision".

      I fully understand how folks say Live is generic but I also see why people like Live.
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      • Behindshadows
        CEO - BSG Network
        • Nov 2004
        • 8052

        #63
        Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

        Originally posted by 23
        Man stop it with this bias talk and how you guys dont understand

        First of all EA has a history, thats reason #1 people dont trust EA

        Agreed EA has a history and it's always the suits that limit this game, we finally know that now from previous threads. But even with their interference Live 10 is still a great game.

        Second, Its the "new direction" comment that bothers people

        People are afraid of change, thats why other titles are the same rehash yearly. I commend Live series for at least trying to make it fresh, at the same time I hate when they remove features and things that weren't broken.

        Third Moving some of the devs who worked on this game elsewhere and one leaving is another thing that raised people's eyebrows.

        And they also added people as well, including the whole damn NCAA BB team, which is still angering me. But hey, who says the move won't be beneficial...


        At this point, EA doesnt have alot of leg room with the fans. Since this gen started its been disaster after disaster, and once something respectable comes out BOOM, new direction.

        People are going to wait and see, not claiming doom and gloom. The marketing thing has worn out now, just the same as the limited animations the generic player likenesses/tendencies...

        People are saying it doomed still basing it off of Live 06, 07, and 08 which were all created by another development squad. Just the name Live is a bad taste in someones mouth. And majority of the people who continue to bash it completely are people who are playing it and trying to compare it off the competitions game. Now the player likeness comment I 110% agree with you, I think I typed about 4 to 5 post on the disgusting rookie models, especially my whole UNC Tarheels graduates who looked nothing like themselves.

        There are a number of things that bother people that shouldn't be ignored.
        Like I said, people are going to wait and see
        Even in this thread people can't stop comparing this series to the competitions series.

        1st off, they are two different companys, two different gameplay engines, two different graphics engines, two different everything.

        The games are different, stop trying to compare them and stop expecting them to be a like, play alike or anything else. That's why this game is hated so much, because for years the competitions game plays so well, that even at the slightest of a difference, then it just plain sucks.

        I agree with Dre' about a few things, I do agree with him that the team is still limiting this series, too many little things can be implemented into it and it would be an outstanding ball game.

        On the court it's solid, options wise it's barebones. Even the online is great, just needs a better setup lobby. Leagues, and a few other things that will eliminate so much heart ache from even the loyals who've made it thus far.
        Last edited by Behindshadows; 02-25-2010, 12:51 AM.

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        • Hulkules
          Rookie
          • Nov 2009
          • 100

          #64
          Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

          Firtsly I love Live 10, I know its not perfect but worth building on, cant put the damn game down. I PM'd Blackflash questioning the diffent direction the game is heading since the MW statement and his reply:

          Regarding LIVE 11, the direction the game is taking is a good one. Pared said it best on OS when he said that NBA LIVE needs to have its own identity. If you look at LIVE 10, the game played a lot like NBA 2K and it didn't really differentiate itself from 2K. LIVE 11 will take that step to differentiating itself in an AWESOME way. I can't go into it exactly but you will like it when you hear more about it in the coming months.

          It sounds like the game is just going in a "different" direction not a "new" one, but still sim.. Im hoping Live 11 is going to be a great game, will just have to wait and see.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66563

            #65
            Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

            I just played Live 09 for the heck of it since Sage mentioned it to me

            There are so many things where they dropped the ball from that game its crazy

            Right now the CPU wont even kick the ball around the perimeter looking for the best shot... its a one pass and shoot or just come down and shoot by the PG

            The defensive rotations in Live 09 were far better than this game also. Some sad stuff to see

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            • Behindshadows
              CEO - BSG Network
              • Nov 2004
              • 8052

              #66
              Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

              Originally posted by 23
              I just played Live 09 for the heck of it since Sage mentioned it to me

              There are so many things where they dropped the ball from that game its crazy

              Right now the CPU wont even kick the ball around the perimeter looking for the best shot... its a one pass and shoot or just come down and shoot by the PG

              The defensive rotations in Live 09 were far better than this game also. Some sad stuff to see
              Another one of those things that isn't broken, along with good Post Game in 09.

              Like I said, that is one of the things that is flawed about the series, removing things. But again Live 10 is a very good and fun game.

              Also Be A Pro should have returned, ASW should have never left, even though I did kind of hate it. I hated the controls more than the mode.

              But again on the court this game does a lot things right, but like you said,"a lot of what was removed is crazy"!

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              • sportyguyfl31
                MVP
                • Nov 2005
                • 4749

                #67
                Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                Right now, the way things stand, my 1 main concern is the EA team/suits, saying to themselves: "We have to make the game more like 2k."

                That would be disaster.

                They need to stick with a direction, and keep Live distinct, and the best it can be, without making the game a circus.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66563

                  #68
                  Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                  Im not sure if they're saying that or not.

                  2k had a gameplan and stuck with it. Im not sure what happened with NBA Live. It was tops in 2005 then it started going haywire starting with the wacky freestyle superstar gimmick

                  Main thing is you dont drop the ball this much and expect to be on top

                  Go back and play Live 09...although some things in 10 are better, alot of things are worse from animations to basic CPU passing the ball around the perimeter.

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                  • KG
                    Welcome Back
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 17589

                    #69
                    Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                    Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                    Right now, the way things stand, my 1 main concern is the EA team/suits, saying to themselves: "We have to make the game more like 2k."

                    That would be disaster.

                    They need to stick with a direction, and keep Live distinct, and the best it can be, without making the game a circus.
                    The poster above said a dev said this wasn't true. They want to create their own identity.
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                    • sportyguyfl31
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4749

                      #70
                      Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Im not sure if they're saying that or not.

                      2k had a gameplan and stuck with it. Im not sure what happened with NBA Live. It was tops in 2005 then it started going haywire starting with the wacky freestyle superstar gimmick

                      Main thing is you dont drop the ball this much and expect to be on top

                      Go back and play Live 09...although some things in 10 are better, alot of things are worse from animations to basic CPU passing the ball around the perimeter.

                      I agree.

                      There are things in Live 09 that I really liked that I was bummed were not there in '10.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66563

                        #71
                        Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                        Alot of those things were the reason alot of people were high on Live for.

                        Playing it, they worked on the controls and stuff for sure, but the rest of the game wasnt polished up in kind.

                        Its kinda sad, but i was just answering the questions posed why people are hesitant about this next release and in the future.

                        Remember that defense chant the play in staples center? Do you hear that anymore in Live 10??

                        What happened

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                        • bigsmallwood
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1479

                          #72
                          Re: NBA Live Needs the Dream

                          NBA Live 09 was a better game than NBA Live 10 in a lot of regards to me personally. I liked the post game better. All-Star Weekend was still going strong! They just removed modes and litle things that the game did right for no apparent reason.
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