MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

**Segagendude** · 02-26-2010, 10:01 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Maybe Sony is releasing the demo the same time as 2k10 for PS3--- March 4th.

All I know is, it's not SCEA's fault.

Also, I don't care, because I'm buying the game regardless. I don't need a demo to convince me.

Last year was different-----it was such a drastic change from 08 that I needed to see it for myself. I wasn't disappointed, obviously.

**green94** · 02-26-2010, 10:05 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by Aragorn523

Do companies ever admit when they put profit ahead of consumers? I mean come on its not hard to connect the dots. The first year there is no pre-release demo there just happens to be this exclusive deal with Best Buy. Yea im sure its all just random dumb luck and maybe to some it doesnt matter and theres nothing wrong with that. I as a consumer just dont like being taken for granted that regardless their going to get my money.

You are living in a dream world.

**Bob Digital** · 02-26-2010, 10:13 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by SoxFan01605

I've stayed away from this, but I have an honest question..

I keep seeing people say they've been wronged, cheated, lied to, etc. My question is how? I don't recall seeing anything promised by a certain date. I'm just curious where the feelings of betrayal/underhandedness come from.

I'm not trying to challenge you or anything. I'm just answering your question without any feelings behind this at all.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2040614446

**kehlis** · 02-26-2010, 10:21 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by Bob Digital

I'm not trying to challenge you or anything. I'm just answering your question without any feelings behind this at all.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2040614446

I think you need to clarify what you are linking here...I am set for 40 posts/page, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but your link takes me to a page of 40 posts that say nothing about the demo...

**miamimarlins1** · 02-26-2010, 10:23 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by ltw0303cavs

Beside Miami, you have one of the best pitchers in the league (JJ) one of the best players (Hanley), a stud kid in your minors (Stanton) and a new retractable roof stadium that will be in the Show 2012. What do you have to be upset about

, but i hear you brother ! Hopefully the new unis in 2012 make the MLB style guide correctly lol

All true, I can't wait to see the Marlins new stadium and for the big name change representing the city rather than the state

**SoxFan01605** · 02-26-2010, 10:23 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by Bob Digital

I'm not trying to challenge you or anything. I'm just answering your question without any feelings behind this at all.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2040614446

Am I missing something (serious question)? I clicked the link and it was discussion of community day stuff. My vision ain't the best though...lol ( I checked a couple pages each way (and even the fact sheet itself) and didn't see anything.

What should I be looking for?

EDIT: I see I'm not alone. What are we missing Bob?

**EnigmaNemesis** · 02-26-2010, 10:26 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by SoxFan01605

Am I missing something (serious question)? I clicked the link and it was discussion of community day stuff. My vision ain't the best though...lol ( I checked a couple pages each way (and even the fact sheet itself) and didn't see anything.

What should I be looking for?

EDIT: I see I'm not alone. What are we missing Bob?

I think he was referring to that the fact sheet was supposed to be out on a certain day, and was delayed. But we were told this. We were never promised a day with the demo.

His link is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

**Randor2000** · 02-26-2010, 10:34 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

This is the greatest thread EVER! I have stopped looking at screenshots and videos. Instead, I come straight here for crackpot theories. This whole "when is the demo coming out" thing is now officially bigger than MLB 10. It needs it's own game. Maybe Best Buy can sponsor it.

You play as a SCEA staffer and you have to guide your character to Best Buy to drop off the in store demo while dodging insults and threats from Nerds, Fanboys & Trolls.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 02-26-2010, 10:46 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

This thread is this years "comeback code" ... yeah I said it!

**Bob Digital** · 02-26-2010, 10:46 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

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Originally posted by Russel_SCEA

About the same time as last year. Also I forgot to add this along with the new RTTS Catcher mode the entire catcher logic for all game modes was torn out of the game and re-written from scratch.

Sorry about that, guys.. I thought it was linking directly to the post above. Like I said, I was just answering a question. I am neutral on this topic.

**SoxFan01605** · 02-26-2010, 10:58 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by Bob Digital

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Sorry about that, guys.. I thought it was linking directly to the post above. Like I said, I was just answering a question. I am neutral on this topic.

No problem. It's unfortunate if this is why people are getting so bent out of shape though. I guess I could see why people were hoping for it sooner, but I suppose I viewed it as a more casual conversation (rather than "breaking news" so-to-speak).

It's the almost a downside to the developer's presence here, in a way. People tend to hang on their every word and intent gets twisted sometimes. It just seemed more like a "best guess" kind of response. Maybe that's just me though.

It's kind of like the player model thing in that regard. Someone from SCEA said "we hope to..." and everyone was geared up for it to happen this year. People were let down when nothing was promised.

Oh well. Thanks for clarifying.

**Jdurg** · 02-27-2010, 12:14 AM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by Bob Digital

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Sorry about that, guys.. I thought it was linking directly to the post above. Like I said, I was just answering a question. I am neutral on this topic.

But you need to remember that Russell_SCEA is a member of the development team. He works on the coding and development of the game, not the marketing, not the packaging, not the distribution. So his comments are based upon the information that HE is aware of, and that he is legally ALLOWED to state. At the time of his quote, he just stated what he knew. As a developer of the game, he knew that the demo was done and would probably be released around the same time that it was last year. Obviously, something happened that changed that.

The release of the demo for a Sony branded game is in the hands of Sony's own marketing team and the corporate entity itself, not their development team. The same can be said for the release date. If the corporate headquarters said "You won't release the game until April 4th", then the SCEA guys who post here would be forced to release it on that date. Believe me. So while most here do understand that the developers have absolutely zero say over whether their submitted demo gets released or not, some still seem to be pointing their venom right at them and that is just insanity.

**Bob Digital** · 02-27-2010, 01:14 AM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

Originally posted by SoxFan01605

No problem. It's unfortunate if this is why people are getting so bent out of shape though. I guess I could see why people were hoping for it sooner, but I suppose I viewed it as a more casual conversation (rather than "breaking news" so-to-speak).

I feel the same way. That post was created on Jan. 5th, so like you said, it was more casual than " breaking news ". To his knowledge, back when he posted that, it probably was scheduled to be released early, but things changed.

I'll admit that I did wanna play a demo, but that was cause of my own selfish reasons, heh.. It's all good.

**magnumpc** · 02-27-2010, 06:47 AM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

I never seen any comment made that blamed the devs for the absence of a demo. If this is something Sony then I would question why they held back a demo. Doing this when the devs clearly stated in different areas that a demo was submitted caused all the speculation and hurt feelings that a demo was not forth coming. Now I have played the game several times at BB and the game looks solid and I believe as far as I could see in my limited time playing, (3 hours) That the members will be ecstatic,over the look and feel of this game. And in the end that is the only thing that matters. Sure there could be things that drive you crazy, but such is life.

**yanksfan72** · 02-27-2010, 06:30 PM

Re: MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

I got a chance to play for about 25 min. this game is the best baseball game ever, so if you want the best baseball game ever buy it if you want the 2nd best baseball game ever buy last years version, if you want the 3rd best baseball game ever buy the show 08 if you want the 4th best baseball game ever buy 2k10

MLB '10: The Show Demo Has Been Submitted, Waiting on Sony, Not SCEA

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