NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

[stoncold32]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

I honestly cant believe the # of people getting excited over 1 image. It's obvious they (purposely) put every piece of equipment on the player, doctored the color/lighting, and snuck the referee in just enough to make him just visible, and the same for the conf. logo.

C'mon guys.....is this really ALL you care about?

[mgoblue678]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

I honestly cant believe the # of people getting excited over 1 image. It's obvious they (purposely) put every piece of equipment on the player, doctored the color/lighting, and snuck the referee in just enough to make him just visible, and the same for the conf. logo.

C'mon guys.....is this really ALL you care about?

Completely agree. I need to hear alot more, particular about changes being made to the game play before I get remotely excited.

[12]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

You guys should relax a little bit. I'm just as disappointed as anyone with the way the series has unfolded over the past few years, but people are holding on to hope. It's not a bad thing. It's only February and EA has released info that shows that they are trying to right the ship a little bit...

I know the screenshot is doctored.

I am just holding out hope that this game gets brought back from the dead this year. It's not a blind optimism or anything like that, but I think EA can and will pull it off.

[Tarheel]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

Completely agree. I need to hear alot more, particular about changes being made to the game play before I get remotely excited.

Yeah I want better gameplay to get COMPLETELY sucked in but I have hope. Give EA credit, last year their games were vastly improved (except NCAAF IMO). I have played NBA 2k ever since the 360 came out. This year however NBA Live's gameplay has become so addictive that I can't go a day without at least playing a half. This is the first year on the next-gen that I have owned Madden past New Year's Day. Fight Night and FIFA are top-notch games. Even NCAA Basketball is fun this year and on an HDTV it looks absolutely gorgeous. It's now or never for NCAA Football which will benefit from Madden's enhancements from a year ago. I respect people's right to be skeptical, however given EA's efforts from its other games last year, I'm willing to give NCAAF a chance. Go Heels!

[michigan21]

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The amount of people in this thread that are giddy about Under Armour, 3/4 sleeves, cleats, is mind blowing to me. I thought this was football, not What not to wear. None of that stuff means **** if the gameplay is still bad. My biggest issue last year was the lack of momentum. How power backs really had no use. It was all about speed. All teams essentially played the same way. There is so many other things Ncaa should be working on and tweaking other than apparel. I literally could not get through a game, let alone a season because the game bored me to tears. Mascots crip walking, cheerleaders flying. Just give really good oline and dline play. Slow the game down. Make tweaks to dynasty mode. Add in game saves. After the debacle that has been ncaa on the NG, Im hopeful, but realistic.

[dkrause1971]

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The amount of people in this thread that are giddy about Under Armour, 3/4 sleeves, cleats, is mind blowing to me. I thought this was football, not What not to wear. None of that stuff means **** if the gameplay is still bad. My biggest issue last year was the lack of momentum. How power backs really had no use. It was all about speed. All teams essentially played the same way. There is so many other things Ncaa should be working on and tweaking other than apparel. I literally could not get through a game, let alone a season because the game bored me to tears. Mascots crip walking, cheerleaders flying. Just give really good oline and dline play. Slow the game down. Make tweaks to dynasty mode. Add in game saves. After the debacle that has been ncaa on the NG, Im hopeful, but realistic.

I am surprised anyone would surprised that so many posters are thrilled with this list. Look at any of the numerous threads that are harsh on the 2010 version and its presentation/graphics people and its gameplay people. We all want both to be better but generally its one or the other that really is the issue for a poster.

I frankly could care less if we had only one helmet choice in the game. You really don't even see the guys that closely but yet there is a thread about mouth-guards not in. Instead, i get pissed that scrambling QB don't run enough, or that OL interaction is poor, or that zones are a disaster in this game.

So EA's early list is a home-run with those guys. While i was reading the list, i was thinking hey this isn't bad until i finished the list and wondered where the hell the gameplay stuff was. Maybe its still coming. Maybe EA decided it was easier to clean up the issues that half the users wanted this year.

Its early, lets save the anger until we know more- IE may or june.

[jclentzthadon]

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I'm hopefully but it is frustrating to see so many people just bypassing the gameplay, which in a word, SUCKS. I'm not going to rehash my stance but seriously people, get on board with the gameplay, physics, momentum because without it, yeah the players look cool sitting still but when you actually play the game, and that is what they make NCAA 10 to do I hope- it sucks.

Please EA no more bells and whistles. No stupid mouth pieces either. Move on and fix our damn game so we can enjoy it. We get it, the players look cool and I'm thankful but for the love of god, fix the gameplay because its a freaking embarassment to say the least...

[drlw322]

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can people chill out a bit, this is what he said at the end of the blog.

"It's very exciting, the stuff we're doing with the game. I personally haven't been more excited with a feature set than what we're doing with "NCAA Football 11.' What we just told you about, these are just some of the small things that we've added, some of the building blocks. We have a lot more to announce in the coming months, but this is a really exciting year for us. This is the game the fans have been waiting for. "

who said this is the complete feature list. No one, there's more to be announce. It's Feb guys relax and be patient. I've been playing Ncaa football since Bill Walsh and i have the same frustrations, but stop being so negative.

This is for Michigan21
Also, if they are going to implement Pro tak and smooth out the system they have to slow the gameplay down. Thats why barely anybody played madden 10 faster than slow last year because anytime you play at normal or faster the animation were so jerky. Pro tak also mean power back matters. Madden 10 showed that it was fun to play with a power back. I would only hope that this game would play better than madden 10 (which was fun) being the case every year that the Ncaa version it's always better than the privious year Madden.

All people are saying is that they are excited that these so call fluff are finally being added. They might be fluff but these are fluff that the community asked for. I can't remember how many thread we had about color cleats and certain style cleats that OSer were posting pictures of in their (please add these equipment thread) also helmets and half sleeves and 1 arm sleeves and towels.

We asked for all those stuff, you might not have asked for it, but the community did.

Wait and be patient and stop being so negative guys. Now once once we get to community day around may and june and things are not looking right then you guys have the right to #$@$. I'll get off my soap box now.

[Tarheel]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

can people chill out a bit, this is what he said at the end of the blog.



who said this is the complete feature list. No one, there's more to be announce. It's Feb guys relax and be patient. I've been playing Ncaa football since Bill Walsh and i have the same frustrations, but stop being so negative.

This is for Michigan21
Also, if they are going to implement Pro tak and smooth out the system they have to slow the gameplay down. Thats why barely anybody played madden 10 faster than slow last year because anytime you play at normal or faster the animation were so jerky. Pro tak also mean power back matters. Madden 10 showed that it was fun to play with a power back. I would only hope that this game would play better than madden 10 (which was fun) being the case every year that the Ncaa version it's always better than the privious year Madden.

All people are saying is that they are excited that these so call fluff are finally being added. They might be fluff but these are fluff that the community asked for. I can't remember how many thread we had about color cleats and certain style cleats that OSer were posting pictures of in their (please add these equipment thread) also helmets and half sleeves and 1 arm sleeves and towels.

We asked for all those stuff, you might not have asked for it, but the community did.

Wait and be patient and stop being so negative guys. Now once once we get to community day around may and june and things are not looking right then you guys have the right to #$@$. I'll get off my soap box now.

Good points because for $60 I want everything they can include ALONG with better gameplay. That's the detail that this series needs. MLB the Show is high in quality because it has gameplay and the little details that suck you right in--and EA has as much resources than SCEA to make good games. I'm not a dynasty user but for $60 I want every option if/when I decide to use it. Let's have the best of both worlds come July.

[MaizeHaze]

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Did some of you not bother reading the last paragragh?! "These are just SOME of the SMALL additions, some of the building blocks. WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO ANNOUNCE IN THE COMING MONTHS"! Can you all be patiant and wait for the other news that they said was coming! By saying that "this is the game the fans have been waiting for" makes me believe that both sides(gameplay/detail) are going to be very pleased come release! Just think of this bit of news as the appetizer before the main course!

[MrOctober430]

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Still too early to tell guys.

[Crimsontide27]

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can people chill out a bit, this is what he said at the end of the blog.



who said this is the complete feature list. No one, there's more to be announce. It's Feb guys relax and be patient. I've been playing Ncaa football since Bill Walsh and i have the same frustrations, but stop being so negative.

This is for Michigan21
Also, if they are going to implement Pro tak and smooth out the system they have to slow the gameplay down. Thats why barely anybody played madden 10 faster than slow last year because anytime you play at normal or faster the animation were so jerky. Pro tak also mean power back matters. Madden 10 showed that it was fun to play with a power back. I would only hope that this game would play better than madden 10 (which was fun) being the case every year that the Ncaa version it's always better than the privious year Madden.

All people are saying is that they are excited that these so call fluff are finally being added. They might be fluff but these are fluff that the community asked for. I can't remember how many thread we had about color cleats and certain style cleats that OSer were posting pictures of in their (please add these equipment thread) also helmets and half sleeves and 1 arm sleeves and towels.

We asked for all those stuff, you might not have asked for it, but the community did.

Wait and be patient and stop being so negative guys. Now once once we get to community day around may and june and things are not looking right then you guys have the right to #$@$. I'll get off my soap box now.

A few things to add to this...

The Community has been asking for an upgrade to presentation for 5+ years now...and we still havent gotten it.

The Community has been asking for ratings besides speed to actually matter for years now ..and still dont have it.

The Community has been asking for Bowl atmosphere...and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the removal of Robo QB for years....and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked that lineman actually block for years now.....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the ******** AI on defense to be fixed for years now...still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of interaction between the DBs / WRs for years....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of momentum to be in the game instead of turning on a dime for years now....still hasnt gotten it.


But yet people are tickled to death to get an undershirt....

Field goal nets, windsocks, mouthpieces...etc, cant possibly take more than a few days to put in, and yet people are squealing like pigs at a slop trought because we can now add Cups to the players jock straps.

As to your comment about community day, its nothing more than hype , propaganda , and a marketing opportunity. Last few years we heard many amazing things coming from the community day and then all of a sudden people all rushed out and bought the game....

Next thing you know , we realize that what we heard from the community day people, and what we were playing were not exactly the same things we were seeing. Onward comes the community day people to state that " EA must have changed the build" after we previewed it etc..

The majority of us are not stupid. EA and their NCAA series has fallen flat on its face for years and each year the hype machine gets rolling and the chants for " just wait till next year guys" starts back up.

Your $60 and my $60 are the same, and I understand that. They are losing their customer base on a yearly basis that just wants a good game of pigskin, but gaining consumers such as yourself that are so easily pleased that all they need to do is change the picture on the cover of NCAA 10, and resell you the same garbage with NCAA 11 as the title.

At the end of the day its about money, and they will lose some faithful fans, but gain some new ones in the process. Every 5 years there is a ton of new people that enter the market and those are the people they are catering to, and I dont blame them.



The Community has been asking for more realis

[drlw322]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

these are few post that Adam posted in the Ncaa 11 equipment thread request from last year. It's kinda interesting, it showed that they were paying attention and why these things on the blog were added base on demand. It was a 38 page thread.

This is a good thread and very helpful.

Let's keep out the personal stuff and keep it about equipment. That way we can use it as a reference point on where we should go as far as adding in new equipment.

The art isn't where the lion's share of work is done with equipment.

The first part is the database. To add a piece of equipment we need to add a line to the database. Every line of the database has a memory cost associated, so we need to free up the memory from somewhere else.

Then the real tricky part is the in-game rendering. This has an impact on frame rate, and optimizations have to be made there.

There is also all the UI work that needs to be done to have them appear in Create/Edit player, but that is pretty trivial.

I'm not saying it is impossible or even hard to add equipment. Just that adding equipment isn't a simple issue of an artist making the gear and exporting it into game. That's just the first step. There is a lot of programming work that needs to be done by engineers that specialize in memory and graphics.

Several new stadiums were added and many stadium additions were made. In addition, we updated just about every uniform and implementing the pipelines for the mix and match system took a lot of art time decoupling the pants and the jerseys which used to be one texture.

Also, as I stated in another post, the lack of equipment wasn't due to art time but to programming time.

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That would have needed to be set up in the game before hand. Since we wouldn't want to charge money for this type of content, we could have just used that dev time to include the new equipment in the packaged game.

Most of us started on NCAA 11 about 3 weeks ago. Equipment is on the early list and I'm feeling pretty good we will be able to do new gear for NCAA 11. I don't know how much at this point and I can't make any promises, but it is something I want to improve.

And since this thread is sure to get big, if anyone wants to suggest equipment post pictures instead of text. We'll reference this thread to figure out what we want to do, and if it has hundreds of posts the ones with pictures are going to catch out eyes.

If there is one thing I have learned it is to never make promises. That is true in February... let alone June of the previous year! It is VERY early in the cycle right now.

We'd have to 1) support the equipment in the data base, 2) support the equipment being rendered (drawn on screen) in game by allocating space in the graphics heap and RAM, 3) establish a pipeline for downloading the content into the game, 4) set up UI screens for actually downloading it, as well as adding it to create/edit player screens, and 5) anything else I might have forgotten

To do all of the above, it would be just as easy (actually easier) to include the equipment in the packaged game rather than making it downloadable.

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Respectfully though, please don't sort us in this category. I know you can't make promises, but at least give it the effort you put into the unis this year. How about a banner year for equipment kind of deal?
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I can't promise a banner year for equipment, but I'll promise to do whatever I can to achieve it.

[TheCreep]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

A few things to add to this...

The Community has been asking for an upgrade to presentation for 5+ years now...and we still havent gotten it.

The Community has been asking for ratings besides speed to actually matter for years now ..and still dont have it.

The Community has been asking for Bowl atmosphere...and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the removal of Robo QB for years....and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked that lineman actually block for years now.....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the ******** AI on defense to be fixed for years now...still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of interaction between the DBs / WRs for years....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of momentum to be in the game instead of turning on a dime for years now....still hasnt gotten it.


But yet people are tickled to death to get an undershirt....

Field goal nets, windsocks, mouthpieces...etc, cant possibly take more than a few days to put in, and yet people are squealing like pigs at a slop trought because we can now add Cups to the players jock straps.

As to your comment about community day, its nothing more than hype , propaganda , and a marketing opportunity. Last few years we heard many amazing things coming from the community day and then all of a sudden people all rushed out and bought the game....

Next thing you know , we realize that what we heard from the community day people, and what we were playing were not exactly the same things we were seeing. Onward comes the community day people to state that " EA must have changed the build" after we previewed it etc..

The majority of us are not stupid. EA and their NCAA series has fallen flat on its face for years and each year the hype machine gets rolling and the chants for " just wait till next year guys" starts back up.

Your $60 and my $60 are the same, and I understand that. They are losing their customer base on a yearly basis that just wants a good game of pigskin, but gaining consumers such as yourself that are so easily pleased that all they need to do is change the picture on the cover of NCAA 10, and resell you the same garbage with NCAA 11 as the title.

At the end of the day its about money, and they will lose some faithful fans, but gain some new ones in the process. Every 5 years there is a ton of new people that enter the market and those are the people they are catering to, and I dont blame them.



The Community has been asking for more realis

The community has been asking for more realism? Who says we wont get more realism this year?

[drlw322]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

A few things to add to this...

The Community has been asking for an upgrade to presentation for 5+ years now...and we still havent gotten it.

The Community has been asking for ratings besides speed to actually matter for years now ..and still dont have it.

The Community has been asking for Bowl atmosphere...and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the removal of Robo QB for years....and still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked that lineman actually block for years now.....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for the ******** AI on defense to be fixed for years now...still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of interaction between the DBs / WRs for years....still hasnt gotten it.

The Community has asked for some sort of momentum to be in the game instead of turning on a dime for years now....still hasnt gotten it.


But yet people are tickled to death to get an undershirt....

Field goal nets, windsocks, mouthpieces...etc, cant possibly take more than a few days to put in, and yet people are squealing like pigs at a slop trought because we can now add Cups to the players jock straps.

As to your comment about community day, its nothing more than hype , propaganda , and a marketing opportunity. Last few years we heard many amazing things coming from the community day and then all of a sudden people all rushed out and bought the game....

Next thing you know , we realize that what we heard from the community day people, and what we were playing were not exactly the same things we were seeing. Onward comes the community day people to state that " EA must have changed the build" after we previewed it etc..

The majority of us are not stupid. EA and their NCAA series has fallen flat on its face for years and each year the hype machine gets rolling and the chants for " just wait till next year guys" starts back up.

Your $60 and my $60 are the same, and I understand that. They are losing their customer base on a yearly basis that just wants a good game of pigskin, but gaining consumers such as yourself that are so easily pleased that all they need to do is change the picture on the cover of NCAA 10, and resell you the same garbage with NCAA 11 as the title.

At the end of the day its about money, and they will lose some faithful fans, but gain some new ones in the process. Every 5 years there is a ton of new people that enter the market and those are the people they are catering to, and I dont blame them.



The Community has been asking for more realis

I understand that the community are asking for all those thing. And agree with it completely sir. I'm just saying to please wait it's the 1st bit of news. I'm making a point that this merely shows to me that they are listening to the small needs that we are asking for (equipment) which gives me hope that they'll listen to some of the big things that we're are asking for.

I think we will get presentation this year, to what extent? I don't know.

I think the game will play more like madden this year, but a new physic engine, probably not.

Will some of the AI issues be fix this year, yes but probably not all.

Will dynasty running stats be fix this year, i think so.

All i'm saying is that changes have to start somewhere, and it could be NCAA 11. It doesn't help that everyone is negative about it when they are actually listening. If i was making a game and trying to implement what the community wants knowing that i can't disclose all the detail yet. And I give you the 1st little piece of info (which was alot for 1st info). And most of the 1st piece of info was what the community asked for and all they did was complain. My thought would be I can't win, why even try.