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  • Hiro1
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 1229

    #271
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

    Originally posted by Glorious Arc
    "Madden's pro tac addition isnt felt very welcome either. Pro tac is a system that forces players to run directly at the defense to achieve the "best" result to get past the defense and that isnt football."
    I will sit and wait to see what else is "new" to NCAA but so far I am overall unimpressed.
    It sounds like you are going off of something someone said. I have no proof to tell if you are, but pro-tak gang tackling is a gamplay addition that separates Madden from Ncaa. Unlike in Ncaa where it is about speed,speed and speed. Pro-tak turns power backs into weapons also. Not many tackles are 1 on 1 or even 2 on 2. Pro-tak is one of the best things to happen to "EA" sports football games.
    Psn: Plex-07

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    • NikB13
      Rookie
      • Nov 2008
      • 211

      #272
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

      Loved that this year we got a legit first screen shot. New cleats, calf bands, revo speed helmets, & refs... all in one pic. Hopefully this is just the small first step
      GO! DUCKS!

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      • da ThRONe
        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
        • Mar 2009
        • 8528

        #273
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

        Originally posted by JerseySuave4
        i can already tell Operation Sports is going to become a pain in the arse to be around the next few months. So many people complaining already. We just got first info, this isn't the only stuff they did.

        They aren't going to make their big announcements for some time still. The fact that they got these things out of the way (all things that people have been asking for) without including them as the big features is a good sign.

        Why dont some of you take a deep breath, step back and relax because you're getting upset over nothing. Theres still a lot of time for info to come out.
        It's not so much the complaining. People have the right to be upset about the quality of a product. I for one thought NCAA 10 was sub par and I am glad I didnt purchase it new.

        The problem are those who cant keep things in perspective. They release info based on importance. If all this info is minor then this game has more potential then all of last year already.
        You looking at the Chair MAN!

        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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        • tarheelguy4736
          Pro
          • Aug 2006
          • 858

          #274
          I think this photo also shows that Clemson is in the SEC ... showing how they transfer colors to the Conference logo... if you look where the clemson player is, at the bottom of the field you see a logo and thats not the outline of the ACC logo, its the outline of the SEC logo. Which is pretty cool I think

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          • Gossennator
            Pro
            • Jan 2007
            • 996

            #275
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

            Originally posted by tarheelguy4736
            I think this photo also shows that Clemson is in the SEC ... showing how they transfer colors to the Conference logo... if you look where the clemson player is, at the bottom of the field you see a logo and thats not the outline of the ACC logo, its the outline of the SEC logo. Which is pretty cool I think
            Good eye, didn't notice. Does anybody know if the patches change on the jersey as well when you change conferences?
            Who Dat!

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            • vatechfan44
              Rookie
              • Jan 2010
              • 352

              #276
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

              If these features are small details, then this will be an amazing game and might be better than madden

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              • Glorious Arc
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 1875

                #277
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                Originally posted by Hiro1
                It sounds like you are going off of something someone said. I have no proof to tell if you are, but pro-tak gang tackling is a gamplay addition that separates Madden from Ncaa. Unlike in Ncaa where it is about speed,speed and speed. Pro-tak turns power backs into weapons also. Not many tackles are 1 on 1 or even 2 on 2. Pro-tak is one of the best things to happen to "EA" sports football games.
                No, I meant exactly what I said. Madden has become obsessed with it's "highlight stick" and completely broken the reality of football. Pro tac is merely an extension to this obsession. You would be hard pressed to find a RB that actually tries to go head to head with another player in the open field.(I mean running directly to the defender to completely bowl over him or skinny his way out of a tackle)

                Just to make a quick example I will use Brandon Jacobs who IMO is considered one of the better power backs in the league. When he has the option he chooses to move to the side of the defender because there is space and then try and drive through the defense but in madden people run directly at a defender to use the highlight stick most effectively. Madden/NCAA's running game is quite repeative and all about getting head to head with another player instead of taking a good angle to put the defender in a bad position to make a play on the RB. Players are rewarded for going head to head in NCAA/madden because they have an increased chance to break the tackle.

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                Dont even get me started on the "spin juke" that has defenders with the broken ankle animation when they are just about to make full contact with the RB.

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                • 12
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 4458

                  #278
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                  Originally posted by Glorious Arc
                  Im not exactly "upset" but color me unimpressed with the announcements. I personally could case less for an auto save feature, auto roster load, new equipment, conference logos, single season week, or refs. They are all features to either speed things along or are fairly pointless to me because I honestly think presentation doesnt do anything for me if the game play isnt that great.

                  Madden's pro tac addition isnt felt very welcome either. Today one year after the release, they are saying things like the madden's pro tac wasnt that great and gameplay just stopped ect ect. But when madden released they were proclaiming it to be the next best thing since fried rice. Pro tac is a system that forces players to run directly at the defense to achieve the "best" result to get past the defense and that isnt football. RBs take angles to lessen the amount the defense actually can make a play on them.

                  The one positive is formation subs. They are very much welcomed addition to the game.

                  I will sit and wait to see what else is "new" to NCAA but so far I am overall unimpressed.
                  Well, I think that you entirely missed his point.

                  Your post proves that EA won't be able to impress everyone, but the bottom line is that the preliminary additions that they have released show that they are at least listening. Heed what he said about these being the small additions to the game. It's the first bit of information released about NCAA 11. They are not going to unload all the changes to the game this early, as I believe that the big additions (gameplay, presentation, possibly recruiting) will come later.

                  If this is all they add to this year's game, then yeah, there is more than enough reason to be upset, but this is just the start. I understand the frustration as well as anyone with this series right now, but I'm not about to waste a lot of frustrated energy when I have very little details and information.

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                  • jkeyz21
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 21

                    #279
                    I don't know about you guys but my main issue with Ncaa and Madden Series is Game Play Game Play Game Play ! Run Blocking is Terrible , A I Oline is messed up, weight shifting is like playing on another planet and tons of B S

                    C'mon guys we as a Community cannot afford to be happy because the threw us a little bone more than half of the stuff was on the last gen EA HELLO IF ITS IN THE GAME THEN WHY NOT IT'S IN YOUR GAME

                    Please don't HATE because I used to loved back and I know rest of you do too Peace p.s Gator Nation watch out for FSU we got order now

                    Speed Kills so Do Recruting GO NOLES

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                    • Hiro1
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1229

                      #280
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                      Originally posted by Glorious Arc
                      No, I meant exactly what I said. Madden has become obsessed with it's "highlight stick" and completely broken the reality of football. Pro tac is merely an extension to this obsession. You would be hard pressed to find a RB that actually tries to go head to head with another player in the open field.(I mean running directly to the defender to completely bowl over him or skinny his way out of a tackle)

                      Just to make a quick example I will use Brandon Jacobs who IMO is considered one of the better power backs in the league. When he has the option he chooses to move to the side of the defender because there is space and then try and drive through the defense but in madden people run directly at a defender to use the highlight stick most effectively. Madden/NCAA's running game is quite repeative and all about getting head to head with another player instead of taking a good angle to put the defender in a bad position to make a play on the RB. Players are rewarded for going head to head in NCAA/madden because they have an increased chance to break the tackle.

                      <object width="425" height="344">


                      <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1W50isqcfY8&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>

                      Dont even get me started on the "spin juke" that has defenders with the broken ankle animation when they are just about to make full contact with the RB.
                      I disagree. Even in the video you posted there were plays where Jacobs could have sidestepped, but decided to run through his defender much like other backs: MJD, A.Peterson, M. Lynch, M.Barber. In my experiences playing madden(500+ games online) people run around and through defenders depending on their best chance to break a huge run. This notion that people only/mostly run at defenders purposely to break tackles in Madden/Ncaa is false and diluted. After playing Madden for a long time then switching to Ncaa, pro-tak gang tackling and game speed were the top two things I missed the most. The NFL can't compete with college football as far as atmosphere and passion in real life. So if Ncaa 11 is a combination of Ncaa BB and Madden 10 and a couple of small upgrades, Madden 11 wont be able to compete with such a game. I can only hope!!
                      Psn: Plex-07

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                      • Glorious Arc
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1875

                        #281
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                        Originally posted by Hiro1
                        I disagree. Even in the video you posted there were plays where Jacobs could have sidestepped, but decided to run through his defender much like other backs: MJD, A.Peterson, M. Lynch, M.Barber. In my experiences playing madden(500+ games online) people run around and through defenders depending on their best chance to break a huge run. This notion that people only/mostly run at defenders purposely to break tackles in Madden/Ncaa is false and diluted. After playing Madden for a long time then switching to Ncaa, pro-tak gang tackling and game speed were the top two things I missed the most. The NFL can't compete with college football as far as atmosphere and passion in real life. So if Ncaa 11 is a combination of Ncaa BB and Madden 10 and a couple of small upgrades, Madden 11 wont be able to compete with such a game. I can only hope!!
                        Then we will agree to disagree because IMO on every single run play in that video that Jacobs was further then 5 yards away from the end zone he was using space instead of just directly smashing into the defense.

                        @kingfelix

                        I completely agree that EA cant please everyone. Even the list they provided is by far better then half the info that was released during the entire cycle of NCAA 10. Regardless, I cant ignore the fact that the info that was released last year was basically "We are going to add similar stuff to madden" Except all of the "better" things like QB ratings or Pro tac. Now here comes NCAA 11 and they are just adding in these things.

                        I wont sit and sulk over not having much info but I also wont sit in silence either over what we currently have. If I feel that the current info given is pointless, worth praise, or needs tweaking...I will give my opinion as best as I can. EA may not be able to please everyone but having the demographic of the entire gaming community responding will help them develop a better picture as a whole of how to try and please us.

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                        • DGuinta1
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2706

                          #282
                          Looks sweet! Take a look at the Show for details and add them to the game for football, EA.
                          NFL - Dallas Cowboys, MLB - NY Yankees
                          NBA - Knicks, NHL - NY Rangers,
                          NCAABB - St. Johns Redmen (Redstorm)

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                          • michigan21
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 547

                            #283
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                            Originally posted by Sabredj
                            Please, please, please, put the presentation of NCAA basketball 2010 in this game or even better (weekly poll show or pre-game show) and it will be the best NCAA football on this gen!
                            I agree. The presentation was very well done in ncaa 10. If they would have fixed the freezing and the dump down low problems, they would have a winner on their hands.
                            Member of OS since Dec 2002 BKA amaizinblue

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                            • JerseySuave4
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 5152

                              #284
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                              Originally posted by da ThRONe
                              It's not so much the complaining. People have the right to be upset about the quality of a product. I for one thought NCAA 10 was sub par and I am glad I didnt purchase it new.

                              The problem are those who cant keep things in perspective. They release info based on importance. If all this info is minor then this game has more potential then all of last year already.
                              I agree with you. They could have announced anything and people would still complain about it. They're never going to please everyone. But much like Madden did last year, the NCAA people are coming out first info and showing that they finally spent some time on details and getting the look down right.

                              Its not as if they just did this stuff and just ignored gameplay, recruiting and everything else. They'll announce that in due time.

                              Its just annoying when the people that love to complain and will bitch until the day the game comes out, come on and complain when they give some info for things a lot of people have been asking for. Maybe they havent been asking for those things but lots of other people have been wanting it.

                              These are the kind of people that will come on here from now until july and no matter what info we get they'll say "they aren't impressed, this is still broken, i'm not buying the hype, they need to fix this first, etc." I'm pretty much the same way with Madden in terms of mindset. I'm not buying into the hype right away and i need to see a lot to make me want to buy the game, but i dont go into the Madden threads everyday and complain.

                              Every once in a while i might go there if theres something that catches my eye and maybe while i'm there in a conversation i might state my displeasure but since i dont like the game i'm not going to just go there and bash every little bit of info and complain till i'm blue in the face.

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                              • kindella2
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 449

                                #285
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Screenshot and Nine Changes Listed and Detailed

                                Seems like a lot of missing features have been fixed or added. Good job team. I think they are off to a good start and hopefully it continues.
                                Comeback can happen...thanks to EA Sports!

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