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  • Dudd
    Rookie
    • Apr 2006
    • 131

    #46
    Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

    Originally posted by y3llowboi
    Come on, get some more information before posting your review based on this video. First off, noticed how the ball is glowing, not just in this video, but in almost ALL the videos. In developer's diary 1 and 2, the ball is glowing. It's on ROOKIE mode, so of course the AI will be dumbed down because of this. We have no video evidence that this will occur when playing on normal or hard mode. You are being to hasty in your decisions and reviews.
    You can tell a lot about the direction of where the game is going by what the developers choose to show. If they had a great pass rush and really deep play books, they'd show it to us instead of dribbling out these two second clips of the bare bones rookie mode.

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    • CreatineKasey
      MVP
      • Sep 2007
      • 4897

      #47
      Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

      Originally posted by Dudd
      You can tell a lot about the direction of where the game is going by what the developers choose to show. If they had a great pass rush and really deep play books, they'd show it to us instead of dribbling out these two second clips of the bare bones rookie mode.
      Good observation. I agree.
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      • bkrich83
        Has Been
        • Jul 2002
        • 71582

        #48
        Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

        I'll be honest, this game does nothing for me.

        I am still going to give it a shot, but my hopes are low at this point.
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        • JMD
          MVP
          • Feb 2008
          • 4456

          #49
          Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

          Originally posted by thor-17
          OK guys, a couple of observations. First, every play is going to be different. It's not like Madden, where we see a flaw and keep seeing it due to an animation trigger. What we saw on those 2 plays will probably never happen again. The ol/dl interactions will be different on the next play. The dbs will react differently on the next play. It's all based on where the players are at that time. I think that's the point that we're missing. Everyone has great observations, but every play's going to be a fresh experience. Not even the guys in the NFL make every play everytime. Sometimes they get beat, take the wrong angle, miss a block, run into a block, etc....

          Now, I think we've all been burned by that other game and we are picking this game apart with the same mentality. I think we need to change our mindset and remember that every play will be different. No 2 plays will be the same....ever. No trigered or canned animations, just good ole physics
          -just like the football gods intended.

          Very well said. The part I put in Bold is the part people seem to be missing. You simply can't critique this game like it's a Madden game. I think people will just have to wait for it to release and then take it from there.

          I still play Madden 10 (Ultimate team only) and I'm enjoying it for the most part, but I really hope Backbreaker offers me something fresh and new, and of course I hope it's a good game. We'll see come the end of May.

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          • LeonM
            Rookie
            • Sep 2008
            • 171

            #50
            Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

            I like what I see and I am looking at it for what it is. This is just the Alpha Build. This is not the finished product.

            I like the graphics, camera angle and I really like the cut away scenes for replays. Pretty cool stuff.

            This is just the start. I am looking forward to seeing what the finished product looks like.

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            • SA1NT401
              Banned
              • Sep 2007
              • 3498

              #51
              Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

              finally noticed why the field looks weird....There is NOTHING on the sidelines (and there is alot of real estate there). ABSOLUTELY irrelevant to me, but it finally hit me. really makes things look lonely out there.....

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              • sportyguyfl31
                MVP
                • Nov 2005
                • 4745

                #52
                Looks 'okay' but not enough to give me a real taste of how the game flows down to down, and the playbooks.

                Looks like a rental right now.

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                • lasthour
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 621

                  #53
                  Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

                  The game looks good, but rough around the edges. I hope to see more gameplay and I hope the game requires some football knowledge.
                  What world do you live in?

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                  • Perfect Zero
                    1B, OF
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 4012

                    #54
                    Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

                    OK, this may not make much sense, but I think this game is trying too hard not to be Madden. I think it was a poor choice not to stick with a traditional controller and screen setup, and even though the player models are supposed to look much different, they just scream "fake" to me. I have to stop back at this point and wonder if the game is really worth $60 (tax included). For what will most likely be an one- and- done game, I just don't know if they took the right path in this.
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                    • blackscorpion11
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 691

                      #55
                      Originally posted by turftickler
                      I like your honesty. I am from the official forum. Lots of people are expecting perfection or way too much out of their first time developing a pro football game. That other game has been reworked year after year since 2005 and no one is expecting perfection out of that one either, just better gameplay.

                      Anyway, bugs are still being worked out. Time is running short now. Hopefully, people are not expecting perfect coverage on every play. If BB has perfect coverage on every play, then I will leave both of my copies at the store. In some other games, there is perfect coverage that makes players motion shift, slide jump, and high jump to knock the ball down or pick it off for a pick-6.

                      I like what I see so far. Also, as far as sacks go, every down will be different from the last. Sometimes there will be broken coverage, missed assignments, and offensive/defensive breakdowns.
                      Nice Post, this is basically the way i feel about those 2 videos as well..There are only so many ways to express an offensive lineman getting beaten?

                      That DE animation WAS bad..He stopped then changed direction to the qb, other videos looked alot better in this regard.

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                      • blackscorpion11
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 691

                        #56
                        The WR/DB interactions looked fine to me in this video and others... This WAS by far the worst looking BB vid ive seen so far, the players looked slow and not moving smoothly.

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                        • blackscorpion11
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 691

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                          OK, this may not make much sense, but I think this game is trying too hard not to be Madden. I think it was a poor choice not to stick with a traditional controller and screen setup, and even though the player models are supposed to look much different, they just scream "fake" to me. I have to stop back at this point and wonder if the game is really worth $60 (tax included). For what will most likely be an one- and- done game, I just don't know if they took the right path in this.
                          I can't see a one and done for this franchise because of the engine theyre using, unlike current madden and ncaa, this gameplay engine works! they will likely work out the kinks

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                          • Afrikan
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1462

                            #58
                            Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

                            Originally posted by lasthour
                            The game looks good, but rough around the edges. I hope to see more gameplay and I hope the game requires some football knowledge.
                            haha, not some...from everything we know so far...you will need to use lots of football knowledge....that is how the game is set up...

                            there is a risk reward system for each position...

                            from the QB position, you will have to know how to read a defense and make quick decisions....

                            from the RB position, you will need to be patient and how to use your blockers...also when to do moves and when to cover the ball up....as well as when to switch the ball to different hands...(like near the sideline).

                            from defense if you are a safety you have to becareful and not bite on playactions/rollouts and pump fakes....any little step in misdirection and you could be 1-2 seconds late in making a key 3rd down stop.

                            and much more.... you should check out how they are implementing controls, very sim like.

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                            • SouthernBrick
                              9.17.13
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5831

                              #59
                              Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

                              Originally posted by Afrikan
                              haha, not some...from everything we know so far...you will need to use lots of football knowledge....that is how the game is set up...

                              there is a risk reward system for each position...

                              from the QB position, you will have to know how to read a defense and make quick decisions....

                              from the RB position, you will need to be patient and how to use your blockers...also when to do moves and when to cover the ball up....as well as when to switch the ball to different hands...(like near the sideline).

                              from defense if you are a safety you have to becareful and not bite on playactions/rollouts and pump fakes....any little step in misdirection and you could be 1-2 seconds late in making a key 3rd down stop.

                              and much more.... you should check out how they are implementing controls, very sim like.
                              I'm hoping the scheme feels natural. It sounds a bit complicated when I read some things about it but, I'm sure It'll just take some getting used to.
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                              • drae2
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 1450

                                #60
                                Re: Backbreaker Video: Offensive Passing Alpha Gameplay

                                Is anybody having trouble with loading the video?
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