Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

1) This was a total surprise that information was released. I was waiting for a blog, now, surprise me again with the contents of the blog.

2) I'm not going to comment one way or another on a few pics released in March.

3) I don't blame some people for being skeptical at all. If they felt they were intentionally lied to over the years, then they have a right to feel that way. For me, some things didn't make it into Madden last year, but I don't feel I was intentionally lied to. For those that are skeptical, they'll need to rent it or read reviews before purchasing.

4) I need more information on physics and locomotion.

Let the fun times begin.

[Joborule]

Re: IGN: First Madden 11 details & screenshots

Huh? How did you get that, from this

I implied that they would be more aggressive at going for the ball when I saw this:

He later conceded that receivers will occasionally lose yardage if it means coming back to the ball and avoiding an interception. I, for one, can live with that.

I take it they would be more aggressive in getting back to get the ball instead of the defender, so they'll be more aggressive in general. Plus how is that a bad thing like the article implies?

Also, I don't think I like the idea of the receivers running their route to the first down marker on their own. Each play has a certain design and should be followed. If the play calls for a 5yd curl, then I want the receiver to run a 5 yd curl. If I want him to run it to the first down marker, I will play maker him to run his route to the first down marker. The only time I wouldn't mind this is on option routes. I can assume that route based passing isn't in this years version either since receivers routes are gonna be varied, that means you're gonna have to wait until they make their break before you can throw the ball.

If I were to guess, it would be based on situation and they'll be more aggressive to get the first down on 3rd downs. Like you said most plays are designed for players to run the route in a specific way and they should be run that way.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

If everyone was posting about how awesome this info was there would be no problem. That's just not the case though. We learned from the past and we feel we know where this is headed. We have all been loyal fans who invest our hard earned cash every year. We have the RIGHT to call it as we see it. We have wowed EA and the gaming industry for years with our dedication. We deserve the same in return. That's all we want. We feel we are the unappreciated wives, that have ironed EA's clothes and put food in their mouths only to be shunned, called fat, told to loose weight, cheated on, and told that we could never find anyone else to love us.

Yes and I understand that and all. I have been a madden fan for 20+ years now. I want to the same thing as every other fan wants. But going to personal with and Ian and crew is not going to help any. But overall I'm just saying that we people on OS need to treat Ian and Phil and the rest of the madden crew with more respect on here then other people did last year. But sorry for going off topic here. But the first little bit of info and photos look good. Can't wait until tommorrow for Ian blog.

[foolish813]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

Yes and I understand that and all. I have been a madden fan for 20+ years now. I want to the same thing as every other fan wants. But going to personal with and Ian and crew is not going to help any. But overall I'm just saying that we people on OS need to treat Ian and Phil and the rest of the madden crew with more respect on here then other people did last year. But sorry for going off topic here. But the first little bit of info and photos look good. Can't wait until tommorrow for Ian blog.

It's not personal for them. When they pack up and leave work it should stay there. Also, you don't release any info on anything and not expect an opinion in return. That's why they released it. To be honest I hope they continue to release info on stuff like, better lead blocking, better socks, and new lighter packaging to come with the disk. Only to blow us away at release with play editor and all sorts of new or better options and gameplay. I would love for Madden to regain it's faded glory. Roy Jones too.

[davjaffe]

The new info sounds cool, but I must say I'm a bit disappointed with the screenshots. I was hoping for some added graphical polish, particularly when it comes to the player models. I will admit, though, some of the faces do look great (I noticed, in particular, that Boldin looks very true-to-life). Something about that first NCAA 11 screenshot had me hyped for improved graphics, and I guess now I'm just underwhelmed here. Well, I can still hope for improved running animations and locomotion - it's still early in development season.

[swiftychampleone]

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Nostalgia!


While 05 was good, I don't get how ones could say "I'm sick of suction issues, sick of super DB's, etc." when 05 had these issues much worse than 10 does.

Man, don't get me started on suction issues from last-gen. Those were huge killers in the 01-06 games. The only thing that helps that is better physics, which this current-gen can provide if EA dedicates themselves to it. I think that after 5 years, suction issues and super DBs shouldn't be present anymore.

[HolyCrap]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

Hopefully that animation in the second pic doesn't find its way into Madden 2011 that looks terrible and defies physics

[green94]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

Graphics look like they took a hit to me, hopefully that means the sidelines and crowds got some much needed attention this year.

After looking at the Boldin picture a little closer, looks like sidelines are much of the same, coaches look to be animating though.

[splff3000]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

After looking at the Boldin picture a little closer, looks like sidelines are much of the same, coaches look to be animating though.

How can you see the sideline in that pic?

[davep]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

meh... I just don't seem to care as much about this franchise anymore

Agreed.

Go back a year and look how excited everyone was about the first pix that came out...and then look at the product that was delivered. I guess I'm getting older but screenshots and hype just don't do much for me anymore....and except for replays, you'll never see those facial expressions.

[N@X_WiZaRD]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

Hopefully that animation in the second pic doesn't find its way into Madden 2011 that looks terrible and defies physics

I remember seeing this same exact line referring to Madden 10. And we still saw it in the final game.

So it'll be in Madden 11, guaranteed. Am I surprised? No, not really. The current animation system is intrinsically unrealistic. There's way too many stiff and awkward transitions between animations (which directly contribute to the ugly animation you referred to). The blending technology that EA constantly brings up simply DOES NOT WORK. It's like putting sprinkles and frosting on a piece of crap. Sure, it looks all shiny and colorful at first glance, but in the end, it's still smells.

I suspect we're not going to get a major re-haul in animation technology until 2012 (at earliest) - after Back-Breaker. Until then, 2011 is going to look much like 2010 in movement. And again, you shouldn't be surprised.

Ian and the crew aren't going to revolutionize their animation system until the market forces them to. And really, I don't blame them.

[foolish813]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

Word!! You won't see facial expressions while your playing. Sounds good and is a welcomed addition, but I could name plenty of things that required more attention.

[carnalnirvana]

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the second pic so funny, lol......

that animation is the piggy back from 09 & 10

[jyoung]

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I really hope they take that stupid piggy back animation out of the game.

Worst defensive animation in Madden by far.

Only thing that comes close to being as annoying as the piggyback breakups are the constant shoestring tackles.

[IndyColts2]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Screenshots and First Details (IGN)

There are two things that come out of this blog and thread.

1) Graphics: Remember Madden 04? Ok, remember the change in graphics from 04 to 05? Remember the change in graphics from 05 to 09 on last gen? Oh, wait, there were no changes in graphics from 05-09. It was only a few years ago if you guys don't remember, that they changed the graphics every 3 or 4 years. And each year Madden got much better, just because they haven't changed the graphics doesn't mean the game is going to be crap now. They most likely polished it a little but they aren't going to touch it for another year or two. This just shows they are going back to being the way they used to be. Fixing gameplay, franchise and presentation, worry about graphics every other year. The graphics are fine, they aren't great but they are just fine. Let them work on gameplay, franchise, etc.

2) The blog: This actually was disappointing. It was a horrible first blog that should have been planned much better. The miles austin screen was good to show that sideline catching actually works. but the boldin pic just completely ruined the impression of them actually putting some sort of physics into the game. They should have gave us a pic of a new midair collision that looked realistic, not the same one that we have now that looks horrible. This info is not first blog material, it should have been a twitter post or something. Give us something like better O-line play or somethin like better Wr/Db interaction. These are things that shouldn't be mentioned since they had a whole blog last year on sideline catches which werent even in the game.

On the other side, aren't you guys glad they fixed this stuff? This is a must in the game and its good to know they are back on track to make a good football game like we used to have on last gen.