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  • Tnarg72
    Rookie
    • Aug 2006
    • 17

    #1

    Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

    I wanted to make a roster of the best year from each franchise post dead-ball era. I used 1924 as my cut-off point.
    I chose the teams using this formula:
    1- Win the World Series
    tiebreaker = higher winning %
    2- Best playoff finish (WS loss > LCS loss > LDS loss)
    tiebreaker = higher winning %

    So these are the teams:
    AL EAST
    1970 Baltimore Orioles
    2004 Boston Red Sox
    1927 New York Yankees
    1992 Toronto Blue Jays
    2008 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

    AL Central
    2005 Chicago White Sox
    1948 Cleveland Indians
    1984 Detroit Tigers
    1924 Washington Senators
    1985 Kansas City Royals

    AL West
    1929 Philadelphia Athletics
    2002 Anaheim Angels
    1999 Texas Rangers
    2001 Seattle Mariners

    NL East
    1995 Atlanta Braves
    2008 Philadelphia Phillies
    1986 New York Mets
    1981 Montreal Expos
    1997 Florida Marlins

    NL Central
    1935 Chicago Cubs
    1925 Pittsburgh Pirates
    1975 Cincinnati Reds
    1942 St. Louis Cardinals
    2005 Houston Astros
    1982 Milwaukee Brewers

    NL West
    1955 Brooklyn Dodgers
    1954 New York Giants
    1998 San Diego Padres
    2007 Colorado Rockies
    2001 Arizona Diamondbacks

    If anyone would like to help, I need suggestions for batting stances.

    I have entered all ratings(thanks Bahnzo ),lineups and pitching rotations.
    I will be working on pitch types for all pitchers in the next few days,player numbers and will also be making a few adjustments to some players whose ratings are too high(eg Seth Smith-Colorado)
    I'm not sure if I will be changing faces yet. Might do some at the end. If anyone wants to help do this - let me know.

    I'm hoping to have this finally completed by the weekend- its been a very long process.

    I have included a link if you want to see the file so far.
    I'll put it in the vault also if anyone asks for it.

    Update: Playable set in the vault "CLASSIC BETA"
    no faces done yet
    I'll post the file here too
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    Last edited by Tnarg72; 04-04-2010, 10:00 AM.
  • Titus1108
    Banned
    • Mar 2010
    • 335

    #2
    Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

    Definately upload this in the vault! Will be very interested to see this one. Good work!

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    • chuckm1961
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 1429

      #3
      Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

      Thanks for the work. Planning to check it out.
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      • gtm
        M*t*l F*r*v*r
        • Jul 2002
        • 3946

        #4
        Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

        Originally posted by Tnarg72
        I wanted to make a roster of the best year from each franchise post dead-ball era. I used 1924 as my cut-off point.
        I chose the teams using this formula:
        1- Win the World Series
        tiebreaker = higher winning %
        2- Best playoff finish (WS loss > LCS loss > LDS loss)
        tiebreaker = higher winning %

        So these are the teams:
        AL EAST
        1970 Baltimore Orioles
        2004 Boston Red Sox
        1927 New York Yankees
        1992 Toronto Blue Jays
        2008 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

        AL Central
        2005 Chicago White Sox
        1948 Cleveland Indians
        1984 Detroit Tigers
        1924 Washington Senators
        1985 Kansas City Royals

        AL West
        1929 Philadelphia Athletics
        2002 Anaheim Angels
        1999 Texas Rangers
        2001 Seattle Mariners

        NL East
        1995 Atlanta Braves
        2008 Philadelphia Phillies
        1986 New York Mets
        1981 Montreal Expos
        1997 Florida Marlins

        NL Central
        1935 Chicago Cubs
        1925 Pittsburgh Pirates
        1975 Cincinnati Reds
        1942 St. Louis Cardinals
        2005 Houston Astros
        1982 Milwaukee Brewers

        NL West
        1955 Brooklyn Dodgers
        1954 New York Giants
        1998 San Diego Padres
        2007 Colorado Rockies
        2001 Arizona Diamondbacks

        If anyone would like to help, I need suggestions for batting stances.

        I have entered all ratings(thanks Bahnzo ),lineups and pitching rotations.
        I will be working on pitch types for all pitchers in the next few days,player numbers and will also be making a few adjustments to some players whose ratings are too high(eg Seth Smith-Colorado)
        I'm not sure if I will be changing faces yet. Might do some at the end. If anyone wants to help do this - let me know.

        I'm hoping to have this finally completed by the weekend- its been a very long process.

        I have included a link if you want to see the file so far.
        I'll put it in the vault also if anyone asks for it.
        I didn't think Bahnzo's roster tool would give ratings for classic rosters? Let me know if I'm wrong.
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        • Tnarg72
          Rookie
          • Aug 2006
          • 17

          #5
          Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

          Bahnzo's Roster Tool works back to 1954. To get the earlier teams I created a spreadsheet that used his ratings (example: a 345+ batting average = a 99 contact rating, 8.3 strikeouts/9 IP = 82 rating ). I then got 3 year weighted averages for each player to get their batting average,innings pitched per game etc and calculated ratings from there.
          This works for the main ratings (contact,power,vision,discipline and all the pitching ratings)
          The only problem is ratings like arm accuracy..no stats.
          So for this problem I created another spreadsheet to get a range of ratings for each position. Then used a random number program to pick between that range.
          I will adjust these ratings if anyone suggests that a player should have a higher or lower rating.
          Last edited by Tnarg72; 03-24-2010, 05:27 PM.

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          • gtm
            M*t*l F*r*v*r
            • Jul 2002
            • 3946

            #6
            Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

            Originally posted by Tnarg72
            Bahnzo's Roster Tool works back to 1954. To get the earlier teams I created a spreadsheet that used his ratings (example: a 345+ batting average = a 99 contact rating, 8.3 strikeouts/9 IP = 82 rating ). I then got 3 year weighted averages for each player to get their batting average,innings pitched per game etc and calculated ratings from there.
            This works for the main ratings (contact,power,vision,discipline and all the pitching ratings)
            The only problem is ratings like arm accuracy..no stats.
            So for this problem I created another spreadsheet to get a range of ratings for each position. Then used a random number program to pick between that range.
            I will adjust these ratings if anyone suggests that a player should have a higher or lower rating.
            Good deal. Thanks for the explanation.
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            CLICK ME==> NY Mets Dynasty Page

            I'm the only person on the planet that says sports games AI should be tested in cpu/cpu mode

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            "Life, Liberty, And Pursuit Of All Who Threaten It"

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            • chuckm1961
              MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 1429

              #7
              Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

              I'm still interested!

              This is type of roster I would rather play than the current season.

              How's it coming? Are you editing faces at all?
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              • Tnarg72
                Rookie
                • Aug 2006
                • 17

                #8
                Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                I'm working on the player numbers and making a few adjustments tonight.
                I ran into a problem with the pitch types
                Bought the Neyer/James guide to pitchers ebook, when i downloaded i got about 25% of it. They are trying to fix it now...hope it doesnt take too long.
                As for the faces, I may do some at the end of this all....tried one and it wasn't easy. If anyone has any face making skills and would like to help send me a message.
                Want to get this done so I can finally play this game. Looking forward to playing teams like the 1924 Senators. No power but everyone hits for average. Should be a different kinda game.

                Any ideas for stances???

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                • cardsleadtheway
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1911

                  #9
                  Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                  I am a little confused how you chose the 1929 A's versus the 1989 A's. I thought you used the world series win percentage. Or did you use the season win percentage? I was looking forward to having the Bash Brothers back together again. Would it be possible to have Big Mac as a player and as a coach?

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                  • chuckm1961
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1429

                    #10
                    Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                    I have a hard copy of the Neyers pitcher's guide .... if I can help, let me know.
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                    • Tnarg72
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 17

                      #11
                      Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                      I used the season win %
                      Planning to change a few teams after this set is done.
                      I want those A's too, plus Clementes pirates and whatever else would be fun.

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                      • Tnarg72
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 17

                        #12
                        Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                        Originally posted by chuckm1961
                        I have a hard copy of the Neyers pitcher's guide .... if I can help, let me know.
                        I have all the pitchers from A-B on my copy. Leaves a LOT of work to do. Don't know how we could work it but I'll take any help I can get.

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                        • chuckm1961
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1429

                          #13
                          Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                          Well, if you have a list of pitchers you need info on, I'd be willing to look up pitch types and get back to you. You could PM me if interested.
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                          • Tnarg72
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 17

                            #14
                            Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                            PM heading your way

                            Much appreciated

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                            • puppies_on_acid
                              French Fried Taters, mhmm
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 343

                              #15
                              Re: Classic Roster almost done- Suggestions wanted

                              Hey I have a spreadsheet with all the ratings and pitch types for the 1935 Cubs since my set was originally going to include that team. I since switched to the 1929 Cubs. If you want the spreadsheet I can send it to you. PM me.
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