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Old 03-26-2010, 02:52 PM   #8
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Re: Fixing God-like Outfielder Ability

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Originally Posted by Woodweaver
Without an over head view from a fixed point, I am a little suspect of your distance measurements. Without knowing the angle of the camera frustum to the plane of the playing field, it is possible that there may be (significant) inaccuracies.

Regardless of that point, if we accept your measurements, then doesn't it contradict your premise? If the outfielders are so out of position given conventional baseball wisdom/strategy, then they should not be "god-like". In fact, just the opposite would be true, no?
First off, let me say that the point of this thread is NOT to dissect the title of the thread. Nor does it do any good to focus on a loosely used term "god-like" and try to disprove anything because of that. There is a much larger point being discussed here beyond a title or phrase in the title.

I realize that the images aren't scientific to a ruler's inch when measuring their alignment. You can tell in the images that the players are standing in the grass rows, and those rows are approximately half as wide as the players are tall.

Regardless of how accurate the images show exact alignment from home plate, they do show how little the players move in each alignment. You have to acknowledge that aspect at least.

As for the contradiction you are claiming. The original thread that I started regarding "god-like" outfielder ability was in the sliders section. We all were discussing how it seemed that the outfielders have the ability to run down everything in the gaps. This isn't an issue of "I can't hit doubles." It's an issue of "That ball should not be run down in the gap," or "That ball should have landed over his head."

Therefore, the term "god-like" was used loosely to demonstrate that the fielders were more capable than their human counterparts. I didn't feel like typing out a 40-word thread title that specifically states what the exact issue is.

Last year I started a thread called "RTTS Crash and Burn" ... Nothing sped head-on into a brick wall and burst into flames, in fact it was a programming error. Does that mean I didn't have a point about there being a problem when the game shut off after training in September? No.

Anyways, the issue has grown into what looks to be inaccurate alignment of outfielders. The "god-like" abilities had more to do with an assumption that they were lined up correctly and were still running down everything in the gaps and over their heads.

I suppose now the appropriate title of the thread should be: "How to fix the alignment issue with outfielders that previously appeared to give them god-like abilities to run down balls in the gap, given the assumption that they were lined up correctly, but now appear to not be aligned up correctly."

But the bigger point is that I honestly think the realism of types of extra base hits (not amount) is affected directly by improper outfield alignment (namely, Depth).

I would be glad to take some overhead shots. I'm afraid of the validity of their consistency though because i can't control the exact amount of zoom in/out when tilting to an overhead view.

As always, let's keep the discussion going on this. If you want to see for yourself, take some screens and post them here as well. Maybe we're on to something, maybe not.

My life doesn't hinge on this being correct or being fixed, but I'd like to think if there is something here that SCEA will take a look at it.

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