Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

[Valdarez]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

not gonna lie -- last years demo was off the hook. A Full Game??? IDK how they can make it more robust than that -- but like you said, we'll see...

Didn't we just get 1 minute quarters?

[coogrfan]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

Didn't we just get 1 minute quarters?

There were two different demos last year. People who pre-ordered at GS got a Cards-Steelers demo with 5:00 qtrs.

[Valdarez]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

There were two different demos last year. People who pre-ordered at GS got a Cards-Steelers demo with 5:00 qtrs.

Ok, well, I only got a 1 minute quarter, which wasn't enough time to make a decent drive. I'd rather have a one 4 minute quarter than 4 1 minute ones. Anyhow, the demo disappointing me last year due to the 1 minute quarter and not being able to get a good feel for the game.

This is another example of business practice fail. Attempting to entice consumers to preorder BEFORE they play the demo. Seriously. Demo's are meant to entice NEW gamers/consumers, not existing ones. Honestly, half the things EA Sports does really makes me scratch my head. They were willing to forgo convincing new gamers to buy their games in hopes existing gamers would purchase earlier, when those consumers would have purchased any way. Just a bad business decision.

[lolfalconsbeatu]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

Ok, well, I only got a 1 minute quarter, which wasn't enough time to make a decent drive. I'd rather have a one 4 minute quarter than 4 1 minute ones. Anyhow, the demo disappointing me last year due to the 1 minute quarter and not being able to get a good feel for the game.

This is another example of business practice fail. Attempting to entice consumers to preorder BEFORE they play the demo. Seriously. Demo's are meant to entice NEW gamers/consumers, not existing ones. Honestly, half the things EA Sports does really makes me scratch my head. They were willing to forgo convincing new gamers to buy their games in hopes existing gamers would purchase earlier, when those consumers would have purchased any way. Just a bad business decision.

lol i understand where your coming from, but putting $5 on the game, getting the code to play four 5 minute quarters for a demo -- and than just canceling your pre order isn't that bad lol...

I no times is hard for everyone, but $5 that you can literally get back the next day doesn't seem that bad...(imo)

[Valdarez]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

lol i understand where your coming from, but putting $5 on the game, getting the code to play four 5 minute quarters for a demo -- and than just canceling your pre order isn't that bad lol...

I no times is hard for everyone, but $5 that you can literally get back the next day doesn't seem that bad...(imo)

hah... sounds like you found a loop hole! Still, the premise behind their approach is unsound. Boosting preorders while failing to attract new gamers defeats the purpose of the demo.

EA is so worried about secondary sales they are doing everything they can to get you to buy the game outright, when the ONLY thing they need to do is provide a quality game. That's it. It's actually that simple.

[JerseySuave4]

Bad move, its stupid to listen to fans that possibly never saw half the guys that get drafted because they might not watch college football. On top of that, you'll get people voting that don't really know football even though they think they do. Then you got positions like OL where people don't typically focus on when watching college football games. People will just throw out numbers without really sitting down and breaking down film on these guys in depth.

Terrible idea, how about hiring another guy to help Donny out who actually will break down tape of these guys in college instead of trusting fans.

[statum71]

This is the same reason Allen Iverson was an All Star this year when he's clearly DONE!

[lolfalconsbeatu]

Re: PETER MOORE blog

hah... sounds like you found a loop hole! Still, the premise behind their approach is unsound. Boosting preorders while failing to attract new gamers defeats the purpose of the demo.

lol yeah I understand your point, because as a marketing minor, that strategy of going out and placing a pre order for a gift (in this case the extended demo), will attract more people to go out to get it and not get a refund whether that customer enjoyed the demo or not...

Its just like the cell phones with the mail-in rebate. Most people NEVER tear off the bar code in the back, and fill out the paper work to get that money back most because they are lazy.

[Outkizast]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

I just hope Donny doesn't make the mistake and give all guys in round 1 A potential and round 2 B potential ect. Nothing like playing online Franchise with a Ray Rice that only has B potential And a DHB that has A potential.

You just wait! haha jp.. DHB is the 3rd worst pick ever in the NFL Draft.. right behind Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell...

[lgxjames]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

Yea i can't say this is a good idea, as stated several times, there is going to be so much over rating the average in itself is going to be screws, heck i know im going to hate on every ohio state player

[Bellsprout]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

Yea i can't say this is a good idea, as stated several times, there is going to be so much over rating the average in itself is going to be screws, heck i know im going to hate on every ohio state player

Thaddeus Gibson? Umm, 4 OVR.

Drag that average right down.

[Joborule]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

To be honest, I don't think the masses are going to be very intelligent or honest in their assements of players. I think Donny not going to get too much help from this.

[Unforgiven]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

Oh man this is a bad idea..

Unless you go with it, and then just lower every rookie's overall by 10.

[kehlis]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

Honestly I think this is lame from both the aspects of marketing and the game itself.

I don't see how this would help them to sell more copies aside from it generating a little more buzz, but to be fair, how many people are going to buy the game just because they voted for the ratings of the rookies?

As far as the effect on the game itself...

I'm sure there will be restrictions Donny places (I assume so at least) but still if the initial roster update is at all affected by fans votes it WILL have an affect on the ratings down the line.

First of all, we all now how the roster updates work. They take the initial rating, and either boost or subtract the ratings based on performance.

My issue isn't so much with players ratings going up based on performance because if the ratings are based on what fans give them and go up, it means they are over-performing, but it is with how quickly players ratings will decrease where warranted.

I'll use Bradford as an example because he was already used, what if he is given a 90 rating based on fans of his team wanting him to be the best and he has a terrible year? How quickly will his ratings decrease? I usually use the 2nd or 3rd update to start my franchise and would hate to have to use a roster with inflated ratings on it.

Yes I am probably thinking way too much into it but those are my thoughts.

To me this just feels like they were all sitting at a conference table and even though no one agreed with the idea, they have to comply with what the big guy says (anyone in the working world knows what this feels like).

[Matt Diesel]

Re: Fans to Influence Madden NFL 11 Rookie Ratings During the NFL Draft

Here is what is going to happen:

All the people that think a player is the next GOAT are going to inflate the ratings. Everyone who hates on them will underrate them. Therefore, the ratings will offset each other and no ratings will actually change.

I bet if we were to start a poll with a well known eligible draft player (ie Eric Berry) and give a base rating and allow a +/- 10 in the choices and I bet the rating doesnt change at all after our choices are averaged out.