Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

[splff3000]

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Nice! Lets hope they hook up the Right analog stick to pull off some nice Jukes. 2K's juke stick was pretty darn good, but I could easily map out some better movement, especially with body leans thrown in. Do your homework EA, and be creative. Look at film to see how players are juking, using their bodies, and talk to a few HB's to discover how much is training / intuition so you can have an easy mode (for newer players) and an advanced mode (for the rest of us)!

Yeah, I would like to start seeing combo moves ie moves that you have to use the right AND left analog stick to pull off.

[Rocky]

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Val, explain rendering to me. I've always chalked Madden's poor animations to bad mo-cap techniques.

[shaneralphie1993]

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There is a high-res pic of that screenshot on Ian's twitter

Thanks for the info!

[achain]

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Where have I heard this song and dance before about how great locomotion is going to be in this year's game....

Oh wait, that's right. It was a promised "feature" of Madden 2009. They even made this fancy video to show it off....

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/madden_nfl_09_locomotion_trailer.html

Gotta love rehashing.

Boy, I sure hope they get it right this year :\

[Valdarez]

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Where have I heard this song and dance before about how great locomotion is going to be in this year's game....

Oh wait, that's right. It was a promised "feature" of Madden 2009. They even made this fancy video to show it off....

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/madden_nfl_09_locomotion_trailer.html

Gotta love rehashing.

Boy, I sure hope they get it right this year :\

Ouch, that sure does put a dampener on the whole new locomotion blog...

[Valdarez]

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Val, explain rendering to me. I've always chalked Madden's poor animations to bad mo-cap techniques.

Animations is the movement, which they use motion capture to acquire. Rendering is the drawing of the players to the screen. They claim 60 FPS and yet their animations look as though they are 15 FPS, so while they might (emphasis on 'might') have the responsiveness of a 60 FPS game (I definitely do not see it on slow/very slow mode), they do not render properly at 60 FPS.

I write this off as a rendering problem because when I go into a replay and play the play very slowly, it's as fluid, if not more so, than APF2K8's animations. So the animation / capture is definitely 100% there, they just can't display it properly during actual gameplay, hence a rendering problem. Funny thing is I have sounded off on this for well over a year and not one single person from EA has provided any info on the subject. None.

[Irish_NFL_Fan]

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is it me or does the crowd look better in the LT pic??

[o Mass Murda o]

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is it me or does the crowd look better in the LT pic??

dont even know to be honest...i was too fixated on why LT looked nothing like himself. i figured it out tho after like a minute. he looks too tall and skinny. his legs look like toothpicks....aight maybe not that bad, but he looks like a freakin lean WR, not a halfback.

[Jesus]

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analog movement is huge, it makes this whole blog more believable.

[huskerwr38]

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Ouch, that sure does put a dampener on the whole new locomotion blog...

I would normally agree, but they ripped out their old locomotion technology and put in an entirely new one, used in FIFA. So they are using a proven technology that works, so I'm a believer on this one this year.

[LionsFanNJ]

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I would normally agree, but they ripped out their old locomotion technology and put in an entirely new one, used in FIFA. So they are using a proven technology that works, so I'm a believer on this one this year.

This. Its a proven working technology/locomotion engine in another EA game they're bringing over so i'm excited.

[mmorg]

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This may have been said, but if there is still warping to the ball. all this that they are doing means absolutely NOTHING. Looks nice on paper, but how does it play out. The key is that warping crap they have had in all their previous games.

Once again, if the guys superspeed warp to the ball. This means NOTHING. this whole thing.

Locomotion fixes that because it is an actual physics engine. It will help with players going through each other too.

[Sausage]

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Here's my twitter account, you can check my question to Ian.

http://twitter.com/huskerwr38

Then he replied with a Yep.

@ian_cummings will the acceleration work with the left analog stick like in FIFA? pushing up more = faster accel, less pressure = less accel

ian_cummings
@huskerwr38 yep

Since acceleration is determined by how far one pushes the analog stick, do you all believe that the RT sprint will be removed or become so type of modifier.

[stiffarmleft]

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Locomotion fixes that because it is an actual physics engine. It will help with players going through each other too.

There is no physics engine, it's still all animation, just more of it.

[Mr_Riddick]

Great.. No more sprint button for the cheesers!