MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

[B_rad13]

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They took out all the uneditable developers fake players and placed them on the free agent list therefore some real players had to be put on certain teams since the free agent list capacity is now mostly filled will fake players. I think this is the right way to do it even though some players no longer play for a specific team, I'd rather have a real former player than a fake one on the roster. Also, just put the former players on the Class A holding area and you won't even have to use them in a game. Hope this explains it right.

Yeah I get it. I really hope next year we can just move players off the teams when they are released with out adding guys who are not on the right teams.

[Jason_19]

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I noticed this too, not my doing. I am trying to find out why this is.

The potentials, ages etc of all the prospects you did WERE not changed

Yep.
Jay...the file you wanted us to use...had all the A's and B's already set up by you....so unless you sent us the wrong base set....

Have you guys figured out what happened?

K, since some of the potentials are not what you assigned them to be, have you looked at the attributes yet? I ask because it seems like a lot of attributes are way off for a lot of players. This really stands out for players who are not on most top 100 lists. It seems like the attributes for these players were randomly assigned and that almost all of the players who are outside of the top 100 or so all have basically the same hitting attributes. There's really nothing that distinguishes these players from one another. Maybe that is because their ratings have been scaled down so much.

I'm not knocking you guys. Even without the potentials of certain players being different than what you intended, just looking at the attributes, something seems like it might have gotten messed up.

For example, take Dustin Ackley who is a top 10 prospect and who is one of the most polished hitting major league ready players in decades, and compare him to one of Seattle's lowest rated players, Ronnie Prettyman, who is also a 2nd baseman.

Ackley's hitting attributes are:
RT contact 46
LT contact 43
RT power 37
LT power 33
vision 47
discipline 52

Ronnie Prettyman's hitting attributes:
RT contact 32
LT contact 27
RT power 27
LT power 22
vision 37
discipline 37

To me, there's really not much of a difference at all between these two players. Attributes do not dictate that a player is going to perform a certain way every single time or even half of the time, but that makes this even more puzzling because a player can easily play a little above his attributes and a little below his attributes. With that being the case, there is basically nothing separating Ackley from all of Seattle's or any other team's other lowest rated prospects.

This is just one example, but this applies to every team I've looked at. I'm not just picking out Ackley.

1st Base
Rich Poythress- Not sure how he didn't make it into the game. He's a better prospect than Carp (yes i know he's scea).

This is another thing that makes me wonder if something got messed up or glitched along the way. K, I remember you saying that Poythress was going to be added. He's a player that I couldn't see being left out, unless you did intend to add him and then just simply forgot about him or thought that you added him when you didn't.

[porterbela]

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Dumb question I'm sure...

but I only have internet via phone. I have gotten the Manual Roster download to a memory stick.

How do I upload the roster from the memory stick to the PS3?

[ksig24]

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what about brett lawrie?? only a B? i mean c'mon

I made Lawrie an A. He is a B?

[ksig24]

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The potentials, ages etc of all the prospects you did WERE not changed...except for ONE..Jarrod Parker, you gave him a B and I switched him to an A because Arizona had a ton of A pitcher prospects....so....

No way would I give Parker a B. I love him and think he is a solid A.

[ksig24]

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Yep.
Jay...the file you wanted us to use...had all the A's and B's already set up by you....so unless you sent us the wrong base set....

Problem is...there is VERY little wiggle room. I steal a C from somewhere else....those guys are unhappy....steal one from somewhere else...those guys are unhappy....vicious cycle.
When you start your franchise...there are some new editable guys added to the FA list.....you guys could use those.

M.K.
Knight165

Mike, not too sure what happened or where it happened, but I made Mitchell a B because of his injury and he is an A. I made Matt Davidson, Nolan Arenado, Jake Marisnick and Trayce Thompson all B's with correct ages and they are all jumbled. I know for a fact that I made Casey Kelly an A, Jose Iglesias a B, Jeremy Bleich a B, Randall Grichuk a B, and Brett Lawrie an A. I did not add Grant Desme and he was included. When I made Jonathan Singleton of the Phills, I spelled his name and didnt use Jon and that is the way he is included in the set. I know that these are simple fixes, but I spent a ton of time making sure the proper prospects were added in the set as well as their ages, handedness and audio for their names for nearly 500 prospects. I also noticed a ton of guys not included in the set.

On another note, I have played a bunch of minor league games and have yet to hit one homer. I hit a base of the wall triple with Josh Bell but thats about it for power. I have managed to rake, but without extra base hits. In about 10 minor league games testing out the prospects, I have seen no power and I have no allowed a homer either.

Hope all is well in your world man.

[ksig24]

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Have you guys figured out what happened?

K, since some of the potentials are not what you assigned them to be, have you looked at the attributes yet? I ask because it seems like a lot of attributes are way off for a lot of players. This really stands out for players who are not on most top 100 lists. It seems like the attributes for these players were randomly assigned and that almost all of the players who are outside of the top 100 or so all have basically the same hitting attributes. There's really nothing that distinguishes these players from one another. Maybe that is because their ratings have been scaled down so much.

I'm not knocking you guys. Even without the potentials of certain players being different than what you intended, just looking at the attributes, something seems like it might have gotten messed up.

For example, take Dustin Ackley who is a top 10 prospect and who is one of the most polished hitting major league ready players in decades, and compare him to one of Seattle's lowest rated players, Ronnie Prettyman, who is also a 2nd baseman.

Ackley's hitting attributes are:
RT contact 46
LT contact 43
RT power 37
LT power 33
vision 47
discipline 52

Ronnie Prettyman's hitting attributes:
RT contact 32
LT contact 27
RT power 27
LT power 22
vision 37
discipline 37

To me, there's really not much of a difference at all between these two players. Attributes do not dictate that a player is going to perform a certain way every single time or even half of the time, but that makes this even more puzzling because a player can easily play a little above attributes and a little below his attributes. With that being the case, there is basically nothing separating Ackley from all of Seattle's or any other team's other lowest rated prospects.

This is just one example, but this applies to every team I've looked at. I'm not just picking out Ackley.



This is another thing that makes me wonder if something got messed up or glitched along the way. K, I remember you saying that Poythress was going to be added. He's a player that I couldn't see being left out, unless you did intend to add him and then just simply forgot about him or thought that you added him when you didn't.

Hey! Dont knock Ronnie, he is my beer pong partner!

[ksig24]

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No way would I give Parker a B. I love him and think he is a solid A.

Correction Ridin, I did have him as a B because of injury. Same as Mitchell. Looking at the file that I sent to Mike on 3/14/10 at 2:23AM

[ksig24]

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It was my doing with Casey Kelly as well. I listed him as a B. I believe I changed Grant Green to an A as well as Max Stassi. Position players rated A are much more valuable in the interim.

[ksig24]

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I guess I didnt change Mitchell either. It was a recommendation to Knight considering the injury happened after the set was started.

Ryan Dent is black, not white.

[Jason_19]

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Hey! Dont knock Ronnie, he is my beer pong partner!

I'm not knocking him in any way. Prettyman's a stud. I love his game, but it seems that my point was missed. I'm just going on the ratings. I chose Ronnie Prettyman as an example because he is one of the lowest rated players on the game and in Seattle's system and he's basically the same player as Ackley.

For the record on Ronnie Prettyman, he's very underrated defensively. (He has a reaction rating of 31 and a fielding rating of 28.) With that being said, that's my point, though. Have you downloaded the roster to see if this is the same file that you worked on? Are the ratings that are assigned to the players the ratings that you assigned to them?

[ksig24]

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What the F@$$K!! I must be on crack or something. All my potentials are the way I sent them over. I must have been delusional. Im sorry.

Being around players, numbers, grades every day makes my mind boggled with too much info.

I did have Lawrie as a B. Why? Probably for good reason.

[jsou4646]

A couple questions if you guys don't mind. Does this roster set have rating adjustments for mlb players based on a formula that you use, or are rating adjustments only given to created prospects. Two, were pitchers speed's adjusted using a web site, or are they the original speed in the default roster. And last, I know this has probably been discussed but what will v2 have that v1 does'nt, and is there a release date. thanks

[ksig24]

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I'm not knocking him in any way. Prettyman's a stud. I love his game, but it seems that my point was missed. I'm just going on the ratings. I chose Ronnie Prettyman as an example because he is one of the lowest rated players on the game and in Seattle's system and he's basically the same player as Ackley.

For the record on Ronnie Prettyman, he's very underrated defensively. (He has a reaction rating of 31 and a fielding rating of 28.) With that being said, that's my point, though. Have you downloaded the roster to see if this is the same file that you worked on? Are the ratings that are assigned to the players the rating that you assigned to them?

Ronnie gets the shaft because of where they drafted Mangini. Two seasons ago we were talking and he said that he was raking and almost got called up because of injuries. He is old for the level of ball he plays at, but consider the fact that he was old when he was drafted also. I think he was 24 or 25.

This is the file, but I sent it over with players and potentials, not ratings. The other guys do the ratings.

[ksig24]

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Check this out! I am simming a Franchise season and I am going to play the Futures Game. The rosters came out pretty good with a couple small exceptions Matt Cusic and Kanekoa Texeira on the USA team. The rest of the roster is solid. The World team has a bit of a problem with its lineup.

Hank Conger
Domonic Brown
Mike Stanton
Donavan Tate
Tony Sanchez
Ike Davis
Grant Green
Todd Frazier
Dee Gordon
Chris Carter