Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

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Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: Locomotion w/ Videos and L.T. Screenshot

You guys move on from the back and forth

[Valdarez]

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While we are on the subject of locomotion, doesn't anyone here wonder why EA Sports didn't license Euphoria? If you're going to make the best football game to date, why not use the best tech to date?

My answer. Pride. Someone in the EA organization doesn't want to admit they can't build the same thing, and IMHO whoever made that decision needs to be removed from the decision making process as they are limiting the potential of Madden. Think of what Madden could be with Euphoria + Madden's Art team.

The build versus buy debate is always a core choice in the business world, and for the most part you always buy. It almost never makes sense to reinvent the wheel.

[briax87]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the community day (for Madden 10) wasn't there some small amounts of locomotion added, but were eventually removed due to the AI defence running past the offence and other related issues? I'm assuming this will have to be worked on too if the locomotion is added too?

[Valdarez]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the community day (for Madden 10) wasn't there some small amounts of locomotion added, but were eventually removed due to the AI defence running past the offence and other related issues? I'm assuming this will have to be worked on too if the locomotion is added too?

I'm not sure, I know that Ian said they weren't able to work on locomotion last year as it meant they'd have to redo all animations and they simply didn't have the cycles to do it and all of the game fixes + ProTak. So if they did anything, then odds are it was very, very small changes. I bet the community day guys can sound off on whether there were changes to locomotion in M10.

[splff3000]

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I'm not sure, I know that Ian said they weren't able to work on locomotion last year as it meant they'd have to redo all animations and they simply didn't have the cycles to do it and all of the game fixes + ProTak. So if they did anything, then odds are it was very, very small changes. I bet the community day guys can sound off on whether there were changes to locomotion in M10.

I'm pretty sure the CD guys said that is how the build that they played was. I know for a fact a few said the defenders would over persue sometime. Then when Ian was asked about it, he said that they had to tune it down a lot because defenders were sliding all over the place or something like that. I'm sure someone else who remembers better than I can( I drink a lot lol) would be able to be more specific about it.

[WalkMan99]

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Someone please tell me in simple terms what Locomotion is because I don't have a clue at the moment. Thanks.

[MattIntellect]

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While we are on the subject of locomotion, doesn't anyone here wonder why EA Sports didn't license Euphoria? If you're going to make the best football game to date, why not use the best tech to date?

My answer. Pride. Someone in the EA organization doesn't want to admit they can't build the same thing, and IMHO whoever made that decision needs to be removed from the decision making process as they are limiting the potential of Madden. Think of what Madden could be with Euphoria + Madden's Art team.

The build versus buy debate is always a core choice in the business world, and for the most part you always buy. It almost never makes sense to reinvent the wheel.

The answer to this is pretty simple. Euphoria hasn't been proven to work in a football game yet. You could question their ability to innovate in this area though, if that's what you're getting at.

[SageInfinite]

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While we are on the subject of locomotion, doesn't anyone here wonder why EA Sports didn't license Euphoria? If you're going to make the best football game to date, why not use the best tech to date?

My answer. Pride. Someone in the EA organization doesn't want to admit they can't build the same thing, and IMHO whoever made that decision needs to be removed from the decision making process as they are limiting the potential of Madden. Think of what Madden could be with Euphoria + Madden's Art team.

The build versus buy debate is always a core choice in the business world, and for the most part you always buy. It almost never makes sense to reinvent the wheel.

I'm pretty sure even if EA had Euphoria, they'd find a way not to use it to its full potential, lol. I just don't think EA has the desire to make the best game possible.

[NavigatorD83]

Visual Concepts knows what they are doing

I meant visually. Those games look good. The twitchyness yeah I know. Very disappointing.
Compared to the look of Madden I like those games better

[Valdarez]

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Someone please tell me in simple terms what Locomotion is because I don't have a clue at the moment. Thanks.

Crazy Movement - Loco Motion

[PGaither84]

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Crazy Movement - Loco Motion

[Ed Mcmahon's ghost] Ho ho! very funny sir, very funny!


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I see what you did there, you crazy devil.

[madchuck4]

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The problem with Euphoria is that the running back folds up like a rag doll when he is hit. It doesnt look right. It is good for GTA when someone is getting murdered, not in a football game.

[splff3000]

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Crazy Movement - Loco Motion

Well, that's actually kinda what it's been the last few years.........crazy movement.

[countryboy]

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looks good. Can't wait to see it during gameplay.

[Jimixiii]

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The problem with Euphoria is that the running back folds up like a rag doll when he is hit. It doesnt look right. It is good for GTA when someone is getting murdered, not in a football game.

You obviously haven't seen all the gameplay footage recently, there are plenty of regular tackles, they're not all vicious, crumbling hits or rag doll like. There are broken tackles also, unlike how Ian described Euphoria last year.