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  • xylocaine
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1082

    #256
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

    Still bad and I mean BAD mario running

    They don't even plant the outside foot on cuts.. Plus frames of animation are just missing.

    So this is 2011 on next gen? No thanks EA

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    • drlw322
      MVP
      • Jun 2007
      • 1424

      #257
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

      couple of questions regarding this video. Just curious, because it's not EA's style to put out a video with no commentary or trailer type video. I checked every web link EA has (inside blog, official website, tweeter, EA youtube channel) no signs of any explanation or acknowledgment for the release of this video. Was this an OS exclusive. Was this meant for us to view in this fashion?

      The reason i say this is because in the video there were couple of clips like the florida QB scramble and throw had all the elements of locomotion in it and then it had the other extreme of no locomotion at all in other clips. It can't be that extreme to the other in the same game, can it??

      From all indication from CDJ over at NCAA strategies. I think this might be a very early build, and some issue might have been resolved. Personally i am disappointed but I think it will still be a good game.

      CDJ-
      We're planning on recording a new podcast tonight and we'll probably spend a few minutes on the vid.

      Personally, I don't care for it. People do not play the game at this angle, it shows off animations more than gameplay (or even locomotion), and with the "game speed slider" (as it was called/revealed in the most recent dev chat) certain animations will look better than others at different game speeds.

      I'm guessing they are playing the game on default difficulty (Varsity), so hopefully that explains some of the oddities like QB accuracy on the move, breaking tackles, spin effectiveness, etc.

      Overall though, I don't care for these kind of videos and I can see where it's a buzzkill for some. Personally, I think that will change when more game & gameplay features are announced along with real gameplay footage. At a zoomed in level like this and showing off "big" plays, most games & animations are going to be considered questionable at best.
      With it containing the Clemson-SC vid from the first screenshot, I wonder how old this video is. I thought the game looked better in person than this video shows
      Last edited by drlw322; 04-19-2010, 10:15 PM.
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      • Eski33
        MVP
        • Jun 2004
        • 1299

        #258
        I think the player models are much improved....Hopefully this is an early build because some of the things I would like to see fixed...

        1) Animations still look wonky
        2) The new lighting is awesome but the sun washes out some of the helmets (Ole Miss QB in the vid)
        3) ND helmets look dull...Need to appear more metallic

        Overall, I think it looks good for an early video....
        What?

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        • mtoo22
          Hail West Virginia
          • Dec 2005
          • 1077

          #259
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

          Originally posted by TreyIM2
          There will be a speed slider. Go here and read through the chat - http://ncaafootball.easports.com/livechat.action
          Ryno posted this in the Live Chat Thread

          Originally posted by RynoAid
          the slider he's talking about is a "speed threshhold" slider.. it controls the gap between the slowest rated guys and the fastest rated guys. It allows you to customize that difference to your liking.
          I thinking its a slider to make gameplay as a whole slower, not the gap between the highest and lowest speed ratings more or less

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          • ConVick
            Banned
            • Apr 2010
            • 535

            #260
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

            Originally posted by cowboy_kmoney
            I think all this is set this way for EA to see who really ready for the game. I mean think about it this vid is bad and EA knew it before they put it out there with no news of it coming. So that tells me we are doing what they knew we would do, And thats flip out because we are wanting this game to be great. What I think they are doing is milking us on the likes and dislikes in the vid so they can fix it and add other stuff in . Ill admit I was also fooled to think this whats to come in the game. Because Think about like this anything they do if done wrong hurts sells, So Im waiting on someone from the team to come with other vid and telling us it was a joke on all us OSers for bashing and judging so soon.So lets hope the joke is on us sooner then later..
            You're obviously in denial

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            • Meast21Forever
              Pro
              • Feb 2009
              • 769

              #261
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

              The player models look awful. Worse than last year IMO. They look like they're from NFL blitz. These are college kids right? Ew...

              Animations look kind of good, kind of bad. The QB scramble is cool, but then he just puts his head down and scrambles like a running back, then looks up to throw somehow knowing where a WR is. Eh.

              I'm unimpressed. Sure, it's early, but... certainly disappointed so far.
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              • TreyIM2
                MVP
                • Apr 2009
                • 1424

                #262
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                Originally posted by canes21
                I disagree Trey. Would you buy a new Toyota that may have all the faults they have gotten in trouble for? Or would you buy that Nissan made 6 years ago that has had the least problems of any car in the past decade?

                We'd all go with the Nissan. In our case, the Nissan is 2k, while EA's football engine is the Toyota. Adding something new to a formula already broken is not how you fix things. You must correct the basics and get it up to date before you can add in all the extra things.
                I feel u but there is financial thing to it, as well. Developing A WHOLE NEW FOOTBALL ENGINE, which I think is what they need due to deep rooted issues that date back to the PS2 and possibly the PS1 (CPU timeouts at the 1 min mark in the 4th quarter, when down and on D, is a classic coding that STILL exists after over a decade), is NOT a simple task.

                Unless they have something cooking in the wings that we are not aware of so they DON'T have to pull their product off the market for a few years (yes, YEARS. we're talking about a completely new engine, not just new tech) and lose crazy money, they keep working with what they have which doesn't seem to be that flexible of an engine.
                They are NOT going to stop a cash cow like Madden for ANYBODY as EA's stocks would take and incredible drop that would make your head spin, as well. U gotta understand the business side of it, as well. It's just not a simple thing, at all, from fixing the issues in the engine to completely re-doing the engine.
                Last edited by TreyIM2; 04-19-2010, 10:23 PM.
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                • SaintsNATION32
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 37

                  #263
                  Originally posted by canes21
                  I disagree Trey. Would you buy a new Toyota that may have all the faults they have gotten in trouble for? Or would you buy that Nissan made 6 years ago that has had the least problems of any car in the past decade?

                  We'd all go with the Nissan. In our case, the Nissan is 2k, while EA's football engine is the Toyota. Adding something new to a formula already broken is not how you fix things. You must correct the basics and get it up to date before you can add in all the extra things.
                  well put.....i totally agree!
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                  • King Gro23
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2548

                    #264
                    I dont like the footwork it looks horrible but some improvements were welcomed, they look like baby strides and they are floating. The running looks very stiff
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                    • canes21
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 22956

                      #265
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                      As a hardcore fan, I would love for EA to redesign a realistic good working engine that will offer what we all want. But, coming from a realistic standpoint, like you said, there is a money side to this and as we all know, EA is going with the money side.
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                      • lgxjames
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 894

                        #266
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                        ok second look impression...the :37 mark was ABSOLUTE FAILURE!

                        The rest...whatever...but the wr/te whatever he is, making two...2 cuts like that without no such thing as momentum and loco...yea that is not good

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                        • bigsmallwood
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1474

                          #267
                          I am not impressed and my expectations have taken a major hit. I hope I don't find myself saying: EA has done it yet again.....
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                          • GJEM
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1030

                            #268
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                            Originally posted by bigsmallwood
                            I am not impressed and my expectations have taken a major hit. I hope I don't find myself saying: EA has done it yet again.....
                            Yeah, they have some serious damage control to get to.
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                            • ditchrider1
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 195

                              #269
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                              Yes...these videos have quelled a lot of my excitement. Most of all I am confused?
                              • Nothing like the screenshots
                              • Huge players again...not college kids
                              • Overdone shiny helmet effect with Ole Miss, looks discolored in the sun almost shiny brown?
                              • Quirky leg and feet movements
                              • Horrid spin move...seriously? you can see the animation suck him into the defender like a magnet...STILL!
                              • A lot of ice skating
                              • Too much red/orange overtones in the "dusk" games, the Florida unis have just never looked correct in the past few years?
                              • Strange helmets that I have never seen in a college game(what is that stupid curved edge protrusion in the middle of the Texas helmet, please get rid of that crap what is it?) they look like "post-concussion" baseball helmets ala David Wright with a large bone growing down the middle...that is NOT "in the game"
                              • Visuals seem too tinkered with...they just look too overdone and not natural. The screen shots looked great...video not so much. Screenshots = 9 to 10, Video = 5 to 6 rating
                              • Oh and...huge players again...not college kids

                              Still early though, lets hope...

                              Last edited by ditchrider1; 04-19-2010, 10:40 PM.

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                              • Dr Death
                                Air Raid
                                • May 2009
                                • 1632

                                #270
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

                                Originally posted by canes21
                                As a hardcore fan, I would love for EA to redesign a realistic good working engine that will offer what we all want. But, coming from a realistic standpoint, like you said, there is a money side to this and as we all know, EA is going with the money side.
                                You are correct, unfortunately EA doesn't understand that when you disappoint people over and over for years that you lose business. What could happen is say, oh sometime in the future, like NCAA 16, they will finally release the great college game we have all been hoping for and pining for... and nobody will even be around to enjoy it.
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